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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:30 PM
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31. My dad was a Steelworker.
I hear ya... and I would NEVER accuse others of faking outrage. I might think they'd misunderstood, or were reading it wrong... but flat-out accuse them of faking?

That's just fucking shitty.
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  -The real problem with Obama's Reagan remark... catnhatnh  Jan-18-08 05:00 PM   #0 
  - I watched the speech and this "outrage" is really dishonest.  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:01 PM   #1 
  - How in the world would you know who's outrage was honest and whose wasn't?  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-08 05:05 PM   #4 
  - Looking at the threads here about the subject, I'd say there is no issue.  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:08 PM   #8 
     - So YOU'RE not outraged. That's no call for you to judge others' motives.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-08 05:12 PM   #13 
        - I'd challenge people to take an objective view of the video and form  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:14 PM   #15 
           - I have. I don't like what Obama said. You disagree. There it is.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-08 05:16 PM   #19 
           - i watched the video 5 times and i am outraged!..how dare you tell me or anyone else  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:18 PM   #20 
              - Read post 27  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:28 PM   #28 
              - save it for someone else..you want to vote for him go for it..he gave no criticism of reagan what so...  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:45 PM   #44 
                 - nevermind  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 06:36 PM   #67 
              - Projecting that onto Obama is quite a stretch, I'm glad you're not ATC anymore though  thunder rising   Jan-18-08 06:11 PM   #61 
  - you have no clue what you're talking about  MrCoffee   Jan-18-08 05:08 PM   #7 
     - Personal feelings about Reagan are irrelevent. He was meerly putting forth ideas  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:13 PM   #14 
     - was he promoting or demoting Reagan's ideas on political culture?  MrCoffee   Jan-18-08 05:16 PM   #18 
     - He's saying the contemporary context of politics is similar to  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:27 PM   #27 
        - What quote are you reading?  MrCoffee   Jan-18-08 05:35 PM   #39 
           - He's not describing him as a great president....  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:41 PM   #40 
              - now you're just ignoring the words the man used.  MrCoffee   Jan-18-08 05:42 PM   #41 
                 - In what way am I doing that?  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:44 PM   #43 
     - bullshit..you hear what you want to hear..i heard what i heard!  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:20 PM   #22 
     - .  bobbolink   Jan-18-08 05:30 PM   #32 
     - Your inability to empathize speaks volumes.  bobbolink   Jan-18-08 05:30 PM   #30 
        - Like I said before:  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:31 PM   #33 
           - I figured you would come back with a cruel and heartless spew.  bobbolink   Jan-18-08 05:34 PM   #36 
              - BTW like my signature says I'm fine with any of the nominees at this point...  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 06:40 PM   #68 
     - My dad was a Steelworker.  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:30 PM   #31 
        - I think people are either being dishonest or looking for something to be  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:32 PM   #34 
           - "dishonest"  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:33 PM   #35 
           - I changed my post before you responded.  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:35 PM   #37 
           - In no way was I looking for something to be outraged about.  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:35 PM   #38 
           - He mentions Kennedy within the same context in the video....  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:42 PM   #42 
              - He should have stuck to non-evil people like Kennedy...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:46 PM   #45 
                 - If he were discussing tyrants he would probably bring that up...  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 05:48 PM   #46 
                    - Yes... and like I've said elsewhere...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:50 PM   #47 
           - I guess that would make Barney Frank dishonest as well.  oasis   Jan-18-08 06:11 PM   #62 
              - Where is the outrage at Reagan being one of Hillary's favorite presidents?  Flabbergasted   Jan-18-08 06:35 PM   #66 
                 - "Reagan love" is not an element of Hillary's presidental campaign. That's  oasis   Jan-18-08 06:57 PM   #69 
  - You need to spread this love around to other candidates:  wienerdoggie   Jan-18-08 05:03 PM   #2 
  - excellent summary  ccpup   Jan-18-08 05:05 PM   #3 
  - It's asinine to compare Reagan to Hitler. It cheapens the lessons learned from Nazi Germany.  GodlessBiker   Jan-18-08 05:06 PM   #5 
  - No, it cheapens the lessons of Nazi Germany to ignore fascism until it's too late.  IanDB1   Jan-18-08 05:08 PM   #9 
  - Thank you for saying it!  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-08 05:15 PM   #16 
  - thank you ..well said! eom  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:21 PM   #24 
  - Okay....  catnhatnh   Jan-18-08 05:11 PM   #11 
  - I do not recall. I have no recollection. There is no controlling legal authority. n/t  IanDB1   Jan-18-08 05:07 PM   #6 
  - The Real Problem..  Invidious   Jan-18-08 05:09 PM   #10 
  - Indeed... "Her list of favorite presidents - . . . and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks."  GodlessBiker   Jan-18-08 05:19 PM   #21 
  - Exactly. I tried to explain the same in my own post here - it touched a nerve  robbedvoter   Jan-18-08 05:11 PM   #12 
  - Ok, your argument falls apart...  TwoSparkles   Jan-18-08 05:15 PM   #17 
  - I "may look like a simpleton"  catnhatnh   Jan-18-08 05:21 PM   #23 
     - and please how many were killed during iran contra? so they weren't American should they not count?  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:26 PM   #26 
  - He KNEW What Rank & File Democrats Would Make of That Remark!  stravu9   Jan-18-08 05:26 PM   #25 
  - That is the heart of it.  SIMPLYB1980   Jan-18-08 06:01 PM   #53 
  - Delete  SIMPLYB1980   Jan-18-08 06:01 PM   #54 
  - Thanks... many have tried to explain this...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:29 PM   #29 
  - it is obvious to me ..those who are buying into this bullshit didn;t live through it or are too  flyarm   Jan-18-08 05:54 PM   #48 
  - I wonder if he's going to do it again...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 05:58 PM   #50 
  - it won't sell in calif ..not today..and on radio today in calif he was getting the shit kicked  flyarm   Jan-18-08 06:03 PM   #56 
     - Glad to hear it!  redqueen   Jan-18-08 06:05 PM   #57 
  - Strange that while Obama gets pilloried for invoking Ray-Gun...  AlertLurker   Jan-18-08 06:02 PM   #55 
     - Was he saying what a great agent of change he was?  redqueen   Jan-18-08 06:06 PM   #59 
        - Actually, YES, I believe he was.  AlertLurker   Jan-18-08 06:14 PM   #63 
           - No he wasn't...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 06:15 PM   #64 
  - oh come on, redqueen, W just rode the trajectory of change from 9/11  MrCoffee   Jan-18-08 05:56 PM   #49 
     - You know I could even buy the "but it wasn't praise" thing...  redqueen   Jan-18-08 06:00 PM   #52 
  - I am no fan of Reagan, but...  totodeinhere   Jan-18-08 06:00 PM   #51 
  - Reagan Advisers See A Bit Of Their Former Boss In Obama  flyarm   Jan-18-08 06:06 PM   #58 
     - How can so many not see this?  redqueen   Jan-18-08 06:08 PM   #60 
        - answer to your question..they don't want to...but..they sure as hell are not  flyarm   Jan-18-08 06:25 PM   #65 
 

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