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The "excesses of the '60s and '70s."
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So Obama thinks that Reagan's election was a response to the "excesses of the '60s and '70s."

Just what "excesses" was Obama referring to?

Was it the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Medgar Evers, James Cheney, Michael Schwermer, Andy Goodman and the countless other martyrs to the cause of civil rights and justice of that era? Was it the illegal, unwinnable, purposeless and endless War in Viet Nam? Was it the killing of innocent students in the war protest at Kent State? Was it the illegal surveillance of peace activists including no less than John Lennon? Was it the Watergate burglary and the subsequent cover-up?

Many or, depending on your opinion, all of these crimes were committed by right-wing extremists or their agents. All of these crimes were motivated by hatred, prejudice and disrespect for the rule of law and the rights of others. They usurped a vibrant, democratic movement and replaced it with the politics of fear and despair. Reagan's election was not a response to these crimes although they were the true excesses of the '60s and '70s. It was merely the continuation of them by "legal" means.

Reagan's inauguration signaled the end of the era of change that Jimmy Carter's administration promised to begin. Reagan's removal of the solar panels that Carter had placed on the roof of the White House symbolically aborted the birth of environmentalism as government policy. Similarly, Reagan's reduction in the funding for social reform ended the dream of the Great Society. Reagan made it impossible for millions of disabled Americans, particularly mentally ill Americans, to obtain Social Security benefits and eventually forced them to sleep in cardboard boxes in the coldest of winter in back alleys and under the bridges of America. Reagan began the assault on Social Security. Reagan fomented wars in Central America resulting in a flood of Central American refugees across into Mexico and the U.S. Reagan began the bankrupting of our treasury with his borrow and spend economic strategy. Reagan attacked unions and set off the downward spiral of American wages. Reagan introduced the idea of free trade which led to the exodus of American manufacturing jobs and the downfall of the American working class. Reagan was a colossal mistake. He was the beginning of the end of our democracy and our country. He brought us Bush.

Obama is a moving orator, but he is not ready to be president of the United States. It isn't his chronological age that is a problem. It is his lack of knowledge about the past of America. It is his lack of humility and appreciation for the horrible price that heroic Americans had paid for two centuries to keep the American dream alive. Obama owes an apology to all the heroes of the '60s and '70s. They made it possible for him to live the life he enjoys.

Reagan was no hero. He came to office, not on a wave of hope and optimism, but on a tsunami of crime and fear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/politics/18edwards...
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0503-22.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medgar_Evers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Civil_Rights_W...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
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  -The "excesses of the '60s and '70s." JDPriestly  Jan-18-08 01:36 PM   #0 
  - 16% unemployment in Pgh. in 1983  livetohike   Jan-18-08 01:40 PM   #1 
  - When I hear the word "excesses," I think of the '80s.  onehandle   Jan-18-08 01:41 PM   #2 
  - me too and coke.  lionesspriyanka   Jan-18-08 01:41 PM   #3 
  - me too  NYCALIZ   Jan-18-08 01:47 PM   #8 
  - Exactly  iamjoy   Jan-18-08 01:47 PM   #9 
  - And deficits, too  Red Zelda   Jan-18-08 03:37 PM   #28 
  - And didn't Reagan fund the freedom fighters  Blue_In_AK   Jan-18-08 01:42 PM   #4 
  - yes indeed, Osama bin Laden = Freedom Fighter in Reaganspeak  NYCALIZ   Jan-18-08 01:48 PM   #10 
  - Not precisely..........  PDJane   Jan-18-08 01:54 PM   #12 
     - and isn't brezinski an advisor to barack? nt  xchrom   Jan-18-08 02:27 PM   #17 
     - Well, I was close. :-)  Blue_In_AK   Jan-18-08 02:57 PM   #23 
     - How prescient of Carter  NoPasaran   Jan-18-08 04:31 PM   #30 
        - You are quite correct.........typo, sorry.  PDJane   Jan-18-08 04:40 PM   #31 
  - Excess of war spending  in search of sanity   Jan-18-08 01:43 PM   #5 
  - K&R!  William769   Jan-18-08 01:44 PM   #6 
  - Haven't you read his biography and his discussion of his personal excesses?  Stop Cornyn   Jan-18-08 01:46 PM   #7 
  - Wasn't it RR who  floridablue   Jan-18-08 01:51 PM   #11 
  - Yes, it was Reagan who ignored AIDS and let it go rampant.  JDPriestly   Jan-18-08 01:54 PM   #13 
  - No Obamite has been able to explain what Obama meant  jackson_dem   Jan-18-08 01:58 PM   #14 
  - many people who didn't live through the 60's and 70's  Bluerthanblue   Jan-19-08 01:22 PM   #47 
  - k and r  femrap   Jan-18-08 02:00 PM   #15 
  - Lee Harvey Oswald was a right-wing extremist? Sirhan Sirhan was a right-wing kook? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-18-08 02:01 PM   #16 
  - Please read my post -- I state many.  JDPriestly   Jan-18-08 02:45 PM   #20 
     - James Earl Ray was a petty thief who had escaped jail, The 4 people killed at Kent State were  2rth2pwr   Jan-18-08 03:32 PM   #26 
        - And the Republican Party of Nixon and Reagan offered  JDPriestly   Jan-18-08 03:55 PM   #29 
           - Yes, hate. But what evidence is there that he was political? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-18-08 05:38 PM   #32 
           - My experience living through the events.  JDPriestly   Jan-19-08 01:47 AM   #34 
           - Bingo! James Earl Ray was a direct product of what Reagan called "optimism"  robbedvoter   Jan-19-08 09:25 AM   #42 
  - The country is fighting for its life--and Obama is openly parroting right-wing rhetoric.  Perry Logan   Jan-18-08 02:28 PM   #18 
  - Oh, but with such flowery prose  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-18-08 02:54 PM   #22 
  - I don't believe Obama has a chance of winning the nomination without disgruntled republicans  Maribelle   Jan-19-08 08:18 AM   #38 
  - Since Obama followed up  goodgd_yall   Jan-18-08 02:34 PM   #19 
  - so, social programs are bad now? That's what I was afraid he was saying when  robbedvoter   Jan-19-08 09:28 AM   #43 
  - k&r  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-18-08 02:52 PM   #21 
  - I'm alive today because of those excesses.  Hatchling   Jan-18-08 03:12 PM   #24 
  - OBAMA:"I didn't come of age in the battles of the 60's. I'm not as invested in them"  LulaMay   Jan-18-08 03:27 PM   #25 
  - Maybe he's a South Park Democrat.  Karmadillo   Jan-19-08 08:12 AM   #37 
  - No? Then how does he represent himself as MLK - if he's not "invested" in his cause?  robbedvoter   Jan-19-08 09:21 AM   #41 
     - Ask him. That is what he said. He isn't MLK, or RFK or JFK. Only MLK was MLK.  LulaMay   Jan-19-08 12:48 PM   #45 
     - When MLKjr  Bluerthanblue   Jan-19-08 01:41 PM   #50 
        - It was the battles of the 60's he said he was not so invested in. That is the Civil Rights movement  LulaMay   Jan-20-08 02:42 AM   #56 
  - Brilliant JD.....  catnhatnh   Jan-18-08 03:33 PM   #27 
  - K&R -- thanks!!  Yael   Jan-18-08 11:58 PM   #33 
  - whatever the perceived "excesses" of the 60s and 70s . . .  OneBlueSky   Jan-19-08 04:22 AM   #35 
  - They actually do, Bush being "Reagan's Son" accoding to pundits  robbedvoter   Jan-19-08 09:16 AM   #40 
  - K & R  Karmadillo   Jan-19-08 07:23 AM   #36 
  - you're stuck in the past  noiretblu   Jan-19-08 09:11 AM   #39 
  - Bravo!  Usrename   Jan-19-08 11:10 AM   #44 
  - The sixties did have excesses.  Wilms   Jan-19-08 01:02 PM   #46 
  - I love the smell of napalm in the morning!  amandabeech   Jan-19-08 01:31 PM   #48 
     - It's been suggested that there's still a culture war over the sixties.  Wilms   Jan-19-08 01:41 PM   #49 
        - Yes, that has been suggested.  amandabeech   Jan-19-08 02:03 PM   #51 
        - LOL! I was born here.  Wilms   Jan-19-08 05:36 PM   #53 
        - The right wing has been fighting against the sixties ever since  notmyprez   Jan-19-08 06:24 PM   #54 
  - Excellent Post, also Iran Contra was a part of the Reagan victory in 1980, ...  CRH   Jan-19-08 02:28 PM   #52 
  - Obama should explain his off-the-cuff comments  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-19-08 06:29 PM   #55 
     - his words were pretty clear  noiretblu   Jan-20-08 10:01 AM   #57 
 

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