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142. It builds up Reagan by quoting him. No Dem leader should... quoting Reagan. You're telling me there is no Dem who hasn't made a similar point to the one Obama attributes to Reagan, but who wasn't a front man for worthless, country-destroying termites.
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  -Obama praises GOP as being the "party of ideas the past 10-15 years" themartyred  Jan-17-08 01:37 PM   #0 
  - Obama's comment will be misconstrued as a judgement. It isn't.  sparosnare   Jan-17-08 01:38 PM   #1 
  - if the ideas they spoke  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #9 
  - I call BS on that spin. "Party of ideas" is a compliment. Period.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #16 
  - thank you!  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:47 PM   #17 
  - Yup. No two ways about that. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #21 
  - no other way to see it, really.  bettyellen   Jan-17-08 01:54 PM   #31 
  - Protecting peoples rights isn't an idea, ideas are for policies to do with  harun   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #98 
  - No doubt Obama is bowing to Reagan's ideas. That makes me sick.  avaistheone1   Jan-17-08 05:46 PM   #129 
  - so, he believes they're evil- but that this is not at all relevant?  bettyellen   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #23 
  - Of course  Politicub   Jan-17-08 11:33 PM   #145 
  - Yes, they were the party of ideas,  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 01:39 PM   #2 
  - This is all fabrication, lies and distortion and you know it and I know it.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #5 
  - OH. MY . GOD. Take your damn blinders off.  jlake   Jan-17-08 02:46 PM   #101 
  - I absolutely disagree  seasonedblue   Jan-18-08 10:40 AM   #158 
  - Neither did I.  aquart   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #7 
  - Such BS  gmudem   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #78 
     - "You old folks"  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #84 
     - You can see my point if you read the post.  gmudem   Jan-17-08 02:36 PM   #91 
     - I understand that,  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:38 PM   #94 
     - Nobody's bashing the "youth vote" here, dillweed  dbaker41   Jan-17-08 03:50 PM   #116 
        - Really?  gmudem   Jan-17-08 07:14 PM   #134 
           - Yeah, I read aquart's post. Frankly, I agree with him 100%  dbaker41   Jan-18-08 10:37 AM   #157 
     - Hey, I'm not only one of the "old folks", I'm one of the "old, white folks".  ladjf   Jan-17-08 02:56 PM   #104 
     - "we get bashed"?  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:37 PM   #93 
        - Try reading aquart's post  gmudem   Jan-17-08 07:17 PM   #135 
  - my head is spinning. nt  Jim4Wes   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #10 
  - Please Edward's supporters, get off the slime machine. This is sick. eom  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:39 PM   #3 
  - I just listened to the linked interview  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:03 PM   #42 
     - Well JE is my top choice. It's just the Clinton supporters' sliminess that disgusts me.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 02:16 PM   #60 
     - There's plenty of sliminess  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:28 PM   #80 
     - He did not go to Harvard Business School he went to Harvard Law School  karynnj   Jan-17-08 03:08 PM   #107 
     - Oops, I stand corrected  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 05:40 PM   #127 
        - I have kids who attended 2 different high schools  karynnj   Jan-17-08 06:20 PM   #131 
     - Excellent....  Steely_Dan   Jan-17-08 10:54 PM   #141 
     - Bingo. The comments show he's out of touch with part of his base  donkeyotay   Jan-18-08 08:20 AM   #154 
  - Some of us posted warnings about Obama after reading his book, The Audacity of Hope  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #4 
  - listen to your candidate, he says not to get in a scrum or a wrestling match over discussing issues  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #15 
  - so far only the post above yours is shouting (caps)  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #24 
  - Yes it does  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:04 PM   #43 
  - Will you be taking names? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:14 PM   #57 
  - True! Always been anti-Reagan - no shame of hiding it! Uncomitted, ant-reagan  robbedvoter   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   # 
  - Here's my warning from last May  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:45 PM   #13 
  - Thanks--gosh last May already. Good for you for reading it.  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:52 PM   #28 
     - I wanted to know what was getting everybody so excited.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #39 
  - I read your posts a few days ago--I was surprized, as others were, of his words to say the least.  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:48 PM   #20 
  - Nauseating.  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #8 
  - How are they the party of ideas?  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #11 
  - If Ketchup is a vegetable, then pauperizing the country is an "idea"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:47 PM   #18 
     - And cutting taxes to benefit primarily the rich...  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:51 PM   #26 
     - And dumping the poor mentally ill out into the streets to be homeless  Bluestar   Jan-17-08 02:01 PM   #37 
        - YES! This started in California when Reagan was Governor.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:09 PM   #52 
     - a vague memory is stirring  Jim4Wes   Jan-17-08 01:51 PM   #27 
     - Under his administration Ketchup was considered a vegetable in school lunches  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:59 PM   #33 
     - No, to cut costs... don't want to spend too much on kids.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:00 PM   #36 
     - He also said there were no hungry people in America  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 02:08 PM   #49 
        - And homeless people are homeless cause they want to be.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:12 PM   #55 
           - And the Beach Boys were an example of degenerate rock music... it was a great decade  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 02:15 PM   #59 
     - When they cut the school lunch program, they re-defined ketchup as a "vegetable serving"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:59 PM   #34 
        - At least some of us on DU have memories!  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:00 PM   #35 
     - ketchup is the only veggie i get....  NavyDavy   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #40 
  - This is great. All the key actors in one thread. Very efficient.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:43 PM   #12 
  - Oh shit. You are taking names. nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:14 PM   #58 
  - I don't know why  whatdoyouthink   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #14 
  - *bangs head on table*  Crisco   Jan-17-08 01:48 PM   #19 
  - Has Obama forgotten which primary he's running in?  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #22 
  - Wait a minute. I thought he just got done praising Reagan??? 10-15 years ago is way after Reagan.  Carrieyazel   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #25 
  - Some great fucking ideas.  balantz   Jan-17-08 01:52 PM   #29 
  - OMG, what an idiot! He should be embarrassed.  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 01:53 PM   #30 
  - He's pandering to the Republicans that have been embarrassed by Bushie  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:04 PM   #44 
     - Good luck with that  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:07 PM   #48 
  - I really wish he had used FDR as an example  Blue_In_AK   Jan-17-08 01:57 PM   #32 
  - Of course people remember FDR.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #38 
     - Schools and universities don't teach much about FDR  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:05 PM   #46 
        - No, but parents do.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:11 PM   #53 
  - Once gain, Obama embraces a right-wing talking point.  uberblonde   Jan-17-08 02:03 PM   #41 
  - Damn. Thanks for the links.  Yael   Jan-17-08 06:27 PM   #132 
  - I agree  grantcart   Jan-17-08 02:05 PM   #45 
  - In which primary is he running?  Bluebear   Jan-17-08 02:06 PM   #47 
  - a republican in Democrat clothing?  bluedog   Jan-17-08 02:08 PM   #50 
  - Club Obama ON Break Or Something? N/T  soundguy   Jan-17-08 02:21 PM   #66 
     - Yeah, where's FrenchieCat?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #73 
  - They were the party of ideas as far as Americans were concerned...  Kristi1696   Jan-17-08 02:09 PM   #51 
  - Their idea was to paraphrase Jack Kennedy.. Ask not what you can  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:11 PM   #54 
  - But it did speak to them...  Kristi1696   Jan-17-08 02:13 PM   #56 
     - Reagan appealed to everyone's narcissism. He gave them approval  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:19 PM   #63 
        - Carter was asked if he'd trade places in history with Reagan  donkeyotay   Jan-18-08 08:46 AM   #155 
  - Your defense of Obama is getting much less adament. Where are the exclamation points? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:19 PM   #62 
  - Its true.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:18 PM   #61 
  - My favorite Raygun moment:  Yuugal   Jan-17-08 02:20 PM   #64 
  - '"Reagan spoke to the failure of liberal government, ......."  Bluebear   Jan-17-08 02:21 PM   #65 
  - Yes. Is that somehow untrue as a historical observation about Reagan's message?  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #70 
     - It builds up Reagan by quoting him. No Dem leader should...  gulliver   Jan-17-08 11:04 PM   #142 
     - if he doesn't agree with it, then why does he keep saying it?  noiretblu   Jan-17-08 11:26 PM   #143 
  - I geuss the people complaining about Obama here don't want Democrats to win.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:22 PM   #67 
  - Your candidate is screwing up. Attacking people who point that out  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #69 
  - Screwing up how?  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:25 PM   #72 
     - So what does Obama stand for? Getting down with Reagan supporters?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:28 PM   #81 
     - God forbid we should win an election by persuading anyone beyond  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:33 PM   #87 
        - You just said we win elections by standing for something.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:36 PM   #92 
           - You are being so close-minded, knee jerk and dogmatic.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:42 PM   #97 
              - Again with the personal attacks.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:54 PM   #103 
     - What a coincidence, I'm supporting John Edwards for the very same reason.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   #83 
        - Obama has the record supporting gay rights.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:35 PM   #90 
           - Then you want John Edwards, because his words say who he's running to speak for.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #99 
              - So he pandered to conservatives as a Senator.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:49 PM   #102 
                 - According to you, that won't happen.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:01 PM   #105 
                    - I don't think Obama will triangulate because  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:06 PM   #106 
                       - Chicago progressives are a dime a dozen. If Obama could have compiled the same record  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:13 PM   #109 
                          - You're talking about pure speculation  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:16 PM   #110 
                             - I didn't bring it up.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:25 PM   #111 
                                - Read up on Edwards clean coal platform  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:34 PM   #113 
                                   - What makes John Edwards different is that he supports  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:45 PM   #114 
                                      - There is no such thing as clean coal.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:51 PM   #117 
                                         - From John Edwards Platform:  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 04:05 PM   #118 
  - I want Democrats to win with a true Democrat--John Edwards!  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #71 
  - And I'd like the candidate who voted like a Democrat  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #75 
     - And I'd like Jesus H. Christ. I am looking to the future, not the past.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #86 
  - There's a third choice...  FredScuttle   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #77 
     - You really don't get it.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #85 
        - Tell me, have you read his book? The Audacity of Hope?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:34 PM   #88 
        - Yes, I've read the book.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:38 PM   #95 
           - Oh, yes. 'Present' is SO progressive. And as for slick stump speeches,  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:34 PM   #123 
        - He seems to echo a lot of right wing talking points...  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:40 PM   #96 
  - I will submit they have offered a clearer agenda.  Zynx   Jan-17-08 02:23 PM   #68 
  - The M$M helped, too... can't ignore that effect. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #74 
  - See post #63. Republicans (Reagan) appeal to everyone's narcissism.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #76 
  - There are ways to present a clear progressive agenda.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   #82 
  - Not true  debatepro   Jan-17-08 02:34 PM   #89 
  - What rock did Obama crawl out from under? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #79 
  - The fact is that people are finding it difficult fighting Obama  bambino   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #100 
  - Can you say brown noser?  Auntie Bush   Jan-17-08 03:11 PM   #108 
  - The more I try to like Obama the more he reminds me that I don't know who he is  Az_lefty   Jan-17-08 03:33 PM   #112 
  - That's because he doesn't know who he is.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:36 PM   #124 
  - if that's change, who needs it? nt  VotesForWomen   Jan-17-08 03:48 PM   #115 
  - Obama is looking forward to the general election.  totodeinhere   Jan-17-08 04:16 PM   #119 
  - I know...  themartyred   Jan-17-08 04:33 PM   #120 
  - he's not won this yet. do you agree this is a mistake? or you think it's wise, even now?  themartyred   Jan-17-08 04:38 PM   #121 
     - I agree that Obama is idealistic and perhaps naive  totodeinhere   Jan-17-08 05:15 PM   #122 
        - I wouldn't call it brave to invoke Reagan. I would call it seriously misguided.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:37 PM   #125 
           - I understand your point  totodeinhere   Jan-18-08 02:41 AM   #148 
  - My respect for Obama grew another notch...n/t  dugggy   Jan-17-08 05:38 PM   #126 
  - OMG!!!! WHAT?!?!?!  stravu9   Jan-17-08 05:42 PM   #128 
  - Because he is not a rabid partisan and wants to  dugggy   Jan-17-08 10:27 PM   #138 
     - The Democratic Party Keeps Going Further to The Right...  stravu9   Jan-18-08 01:18 PM   #161 
  - Just what we need. More smoke and mirrors fro the supply-side crowd  Yael   Jan-17-08 05:51 PM   #130 
  - Party of BAD Ideas...  fujiyama   Jan-17-08 06:32 PM   #133 
  - Can you imagine any of the rethug candidates praising the modern Democratic Party?  jackson_dem   Jan-17-08 09:58 PM   #136 
  - Obama sounds like an idiot  leftofthedial   Jan-17-08 10:01 PM   #137 
  - Extremely Disquieting and upsetting  LulaMay   Jan-17-08 10:44 PM   #139 
  - I think the more telling point is that...  Steely_Dan   Jan-17-08 10:50 PM   #140 
  - Everything you said. Thanks, themartyred. K&R n/t  timeforarevolution   Jan-17-08 11:29 PM   #144 
  - They are the party of ideas THAT GET BIG MSM BLASTS all the time!  eridani   Jan-17-08 11:55 PM   #146 
  - The Obamites  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-18-08 12:02 AM   #147 
  - Complaints Are NOT Ideas  Senator   Jan-18-08 04:52 AM   #149 
  - Its just an attack on the Clintons, note 1993 is the start of the Clinton era  Jim4Wes   Jan-18-08 04:54 AM   #150 
  - All you have to do to beat Obama is let him open his mouth.  Perry Logan   Jan-18-08 05:55 AM   #151 
  - And Obama is exactly right. This is the argument Paul Krugman makes  HamdenRice   Jan-18-08 07:40 AM   #152 
  - Agreed, the Republican party is a party of ideas  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jan-18-08 08:08 AM   #153 
  - Damn JustABozo, you should post that as a separate OP. Good stuff. nt  chimpymustgo   Jan-18-08 09:36 AM   #156 
  - Add one: The idea that people needing mental health care  mnhtnbb   Jan-18-08 11:01 AM   #159 
  - If I said that Hitler was a man with ideas who inspired a nation I would not be endorsing him  cindyw   Jan-18-08 11:35 AM   #160 

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