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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:27 PM
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78. Such BS
It's so funny that there is a candidate who is finally getting college kids excited about a presidential election, and because of that he gets bashed and we get bashed. You old folks say you want us to vote and when it looks like we're going to, you just bash us? How nice. And believe me there are plenty of college kids who DO have to support themselves.

I'm not even an Obama supporter but I feel the need to call people out on this kind of BS. And yes the Republicans were the party of ideas. Awful ideas. And the Democrats have been the party of caving-in and spinelessness.
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  -Obama praises GOP as being the "party of ideas the past 10-15 years" themartyred  Jan-17-08 01:37 PM   #0 
  - Obama's comment will be misconstrued as a judgement. It isn't.  sparosnare   Jan-17-08 01:38 PM   #1 
  - if the ideas they spoke  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #9 
  - I call BS on that spin. "Party of ideas" is a compliment. Period.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #16 
  - thank you!  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:47 PM   #17 
  - Yup. No two ways about that. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #21 
  - no other way to see it, really.  bettyellen   Jan-17-08 01:54 PM   #31 
  - Protecting peoples rights isn't an idea, ideas are for policies to do with  harun   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #98 
  - No doubt Obama is bowing to Reagan's ideas. That makes me sick.  avaistheone1   Jan-17-08 05:46 PM   #129 
  - so, he believes they're evil- but that this is not at all relevant?  bettyellen   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #23 
  - Of course  Politicub   Jan-17-08 11:33 PM   #145 
  - Yes, they were the party of ideas,  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 01:39 PM   #2 
  - This is all fabrication, lies and distortion and you know it and I know it.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #5 
  - OH. MY . GOD. Take your damn blinders off.  jlake   Jan-17-08 02:46 PM   #101 
  - I absolutely disagree  seasonedblue   Jan-18-08 10:40 AM   #158 
  - Neither did I.  aquart   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #7 
  - Such BS  gmudem   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #78 
     - "You old folks"  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #84 
     - You can see my point if you read the post.  gmudem   Jan-17-08 02:36 PM   #91 
     - I understand that,  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:38 PM   #94 
     - Nobody's bashing the "youth vote" here, dillweed  dbaker41   Jan-17-08 03:50 PM   #116 
        - Really?  gmudem   Jan-17-08 07:14 PM   #134 
           - Yeah, I read aquart's post. Frankly, I agree with him 100%  dbaker41   Jan-18-08 10:37 AM   #157 
     - Hey, I'm not only one of the "old folks", I'm one of the "old, white folks".  ladjf   Jan-17-08 02:56 PM   #104 
     - "we get bashed"?  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:37 PM   #93 
        - Try reading aquart's post  gmudem   Jan-17-08 07:17 PM   #135 
  - my head is spinning. nt  Jim4Wes   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #10 
  - Please Edward's supporters, get off the slime machine. This is sick. eom  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:39 PM   #3 
  - I just listened to the linked interview  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:03 PM   #42 
     - Well JE is my top choice. It's just the Clinton supporters' sliminess that disgusts me.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 02:16 PM   #60 
     - There's plenty of sliminess  seasonedblue   Jan-17-08 02:28 PM   #80 
     - He did not go to Harvard Business School he went to Harvard Law School  karynnj   Jan-17-08 03:08 PM   #107 
     - Oops, I stand corrected  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 05:40 PM   #127 
        - I have kids who attended 2 different high schools  karynnj   Jan-17-08 06:20 PM   #131 
     - Excellent....  Steely_Dan   Jan-17-08 10:54 PM   #141 
     - Bingo. The comments show he's out of touch with part of his base  donkeyotay   Jan-18-08 08:20 AM   #154 
  - Some of us posted warnings about Obama after reading his book, The Audacity of Hope  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #4 
  - THIS THREAD, FOR THOSE COUNTING, SHOULD SHOW PEOPLE"S TRUE COLORS.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #6 
  - listen to your candidate, he says not to get in a scrum or a wrestling match over discussing issues  themartyred   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #15 
  - so far only the post above yours is shouting (caps)  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #24 
  - Yes it does  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:04 PM   #43 
  - Will you be taking names? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:14 PM   #57 
  - True! Always been anti-Reagan - no shame of hiding it! Uncomitted, ant-reagan  robbedvoter   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   # 
  - Here's my warning from last May  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:45 PM   #13 
  - Thanks--gosh last May already. Good for you for reading it.  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:52 PM   #28 
     - I wanted to know what was getting everybody so excited.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #39 
  - I read your posts a few days ago--I was surprized, as others were, of his words to say the least.  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 01:48 PM   #20 
  - Nauseating.  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-17-08 01:40 PM   #8 
  - How are they the party of ideas?  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:42 PM   #11 
  - If Ketchup is a vegetable, then pauperizing the country is an "idea"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:47 PM   #18 
     - And cutting taxes to benefit primarily the rich...  redqueen   Jan-17-08 01:51 PM   #26 
     - And dumping the poor mentally ill out into the streets to be homeless  Bluestar   Jan-17-08 02:01 PM   #37 
        - YES! This started in California when Reagan was Governor.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:09 PM   #52 
     - a vague memory is stirring  Jim4Wes   Jan-17-08 01:51 PM   #27 
     - Under his administration Ketchup was considered a vegetable in school lunches  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 01:59 PM   #33 
     - No, to cut costs... don't want to spend too much on kids.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:00 PM   #36 
     - He also said there were no hungry people in America  rodeodance   Jan-17-08 02:08 PM   #49 
        - And homeless people are homeless cause they want to be.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:12 PM   #55 
           - And the Beach Boys were an example of degenerate rock music... it was a great decade  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 02:15 PM   #59 
     - When they cut the school lunch program, they re-defined ketchup as a "vegetable serving"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Jan-17-08 01:59 PM   #34 
        - At least some of us on DU have memories!  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:00 PM   #35 
     - ketchup is the only veggie i get....  NavyDavy   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #40 
  - This is great. All the key actors in one thread. Very efficient.  Bonobo   Jan-17-08 01:43 PM   #12 
  - Oh shit. You are taking names. nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:14 PM   #58 
  - I don't know why  whatdoyouthink   Jan-17-08 01:46 PM   #14 
  - *bangs head on table*  Crisco   Jan-17-08 01:48 PM   #19 
  - Has Obama forgotten which primary he's running in?  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #22 
  - Wait a minute. I thought he just got done praising Reagan??? 10-15 years ago is way after Reagan.  Carrieyazel   Jan-17-08 01:49 PM   #25 
  - Some great fucking ideas.  balantz   Jan-17-08 01:52 PM   #29 
  - OMG, what an idiot! He should be embarrassed.  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 01:53 PM   #30 
  - He's pandering to the Republicans that have been embarrassed by Bushie  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:04 PM   #44 
     - Good luck with that  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:07 PM   #48 
  - I really wish he had used FDR as an example  Blue_In_AK   Jan-17-08 01:57 PM   #32 
  - Of course people remember FDR.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:02 PM   #38 
     - Schools and universities don't teach much about FDR  OzarkDem   Jan-17-08 02:05 PM   #46 
        - No, but parents do.  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:11 PM   #53 
  - Once gain, Obama embraces a right-wing talking point.  uberblonde   Jan-17-08 02:03 PM   #41 
  - Damn. Thanks for the links.  Yael   Jan-17-08 06:27 PM   #132 
  - I agree  grantcart   Jan-17-08 02:05 PM   #45 
  - In which primary is he running?  Bluebear   Jan-17-08 02:06 PM   #47 
  - a republican in Democrat clothing?  bluedog   Jan-17-08 02:08 PM   #50 
  - Club Obama ON Break Or Something? N/T  soundguy   Jan-17-08 02:21 PM   #66 
     - Yeah, where's FrenchieCat?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #73 
  - They were the party of ideas as far as Americans were concerned...  Kristi1696   Jan-17-08 02:09 PM   #51 
  - Their idea was to paraphrase Jack Kennedy.. Ask not what you can  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:11 PM   #54 
  - But it did speak to them...  Kristi1696   Jan-17-08 02:13 PM   #56 
     - Reagan appealed to everyone's narcissism. He gave them approval  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:19 PM   #63 
        - Carter was asked if he'd trade places in history with Reagan  donkeyotay   Jan-18-08 08:46 AM   #155 
  - Your defense of Obama is getting much less adament. Where are the exclamation points? nt  2rth2pwr   Jan-17-08 02:19 PM   #62 
  - Its true.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:18 PM   #61 
  - My favorite Raygun moment:  Yuugal   Jan-17-08 02:20 PM   #64 
  - '"Reagan spoke to the failure of liberal government, ......."  Bluebear   Jan-17-08 02:21 PM   #65 
  - Yes. Is that somehow untrue as a historical observation about Reagan's message?  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #70 
     - It builds up Reagan by quoting him. No Dem leader should...  gulliver   Jan-17-08 11:04 PM   #142 
     - if he doesn't agree with it, then why does he keep saying it?  noiretblu   Jan-17-08 11:26 PM   #143 
  - I geuss the people complaining about Obama here don't want Democrats to win.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:22 PM   #67 
  - Your candidate is screwing up. Attacking people who point that out  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #69 
  - Screwing up how?  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:25 PM   #72 
     - So what does Obama stand for? Getting down with Reagan supporters?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:28 PM   #81 
     - God forbid we should win an election by persuading anyone beyond  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:33 PM   #87 
        - You just said we win elections by standing for something.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:36 PM   #92 
           - You are being so close-minded, knee jerk and dogmatic.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:42 PM   #97 
              - Again with the personal attacks.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:54 PM   #103 
     - What a coincidence, I'm supporting John Edwards for the very same reason.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   #83 
        - Obama has the record supporting gay rights.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:35 PM   #90 
           - Then you want John Edwards, because his words say who he's running to speak for.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #99 
              - So he pandered to conservatives as a Senator.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:49 PM   #102 
                 - According to you, that won't happen.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:01 PM   #105 
                    - I don't think Obama will triangulate because  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:06 PM   #106 
                       - Chicago progressives are a dime a dozen. If Obama could have compiled the same record  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:13 PM   #109 
                          - You're talking about pure speculation  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:16 PM   #110 
                             - I didn't bring it up.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:25 PM   #111 
                                - Read up on Edwards clean coal platform  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:34 PM   #113 
                                   - What makes John Edwards different is that he supports  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 03:45 PM   #114 
                                      - There is no such thing as clean coal.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 03:51 PM   #117 
                                         - From John Edwards Platform:  Heaven and Earth   Jan-17-08 04:05 PM   #118 
  - I want Democrats to win with a true Democrat--John Edwards!  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:24 PM   #71 
  - And I'd like the candidate who voted like a Democrat  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #75 
     - And I'd like Jesus H. Christ. I am looking to the future, not the past.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #86 
  - There's a third choice...  FredScuttle   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #77 
     - You really don't get it.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:31 PM   #85 
        - Tell me, have you read his book? The Audacity of Hope?  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:34 PM   #88 
        - Yes, I've read the book.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:38 PM   #95 
           - Oh, yes. 'Present' is SO progressive. And as for slick stump speeches,  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:34 PM   #123 
        - He seems to echo a lot of right wing talking points...  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:40 PM   #96 
  - I will submit they have offered a clearer agenda.  Zynx   Jan-17-08 02:23 PM   #68 
  - The M$M helped, too... can't ignore that effect. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-17-08 02:26 PM   #74 
  - See post #63. Republicans (Reagan) appeal to everyone's narcissism.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #76 
  - There are ways to present a clear progressive agenda.  Radical Activist   Jan-17-08 02:29 PM   #82 
  - Not true  debatepro   Jan-17-08 02:34 PM   #89 
  - What rock did Obama crawl out from under? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Jan-17-08 02:27 PM   #79 
  - The fact is that people are finding it difficult fighting Obama  bambino   Jan-17-08 02:45 PM   #100 
  - Can you say brown noser?  Auntie Bush   Jan-17-08 03:11 PM   #108 
  - The more I try to like Obama the more he reminds me that I don't know who he is  Az_lefty   Jan-17-08 03:33 PM   #112 
  - That's because he doesn't know who he is.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:36 PM   #124 
  - if that's change, who needs it? nt  VotesForWomen   Jan-17-08 03:48 PM   #115 
  - Obama is looking forward to the general election.  totodeinhere   Jan-17-08 04:16 PM   #119 
  - I know...  themartyred   Jan-17-08 04:33 PM   #120 
  - he's not won this yet. do you agree this is a mistake? or you think it's wise, even now?  themartyred   Jan-17-08 04:38 PM   #121 
     - I agree that Obama is idealistic and perhaps naive  totodeinhere   Jan-17-08 05:15 PM   #122 
        - I wouldn't call it brave to invoke Reagan. I would call it seriously misguided.  mnhtnbb   Jan-17-08 05:37 PM   #125 
           - I understand your point  totodeinhere   Jan-18-08 02:41 AM   #148 
  - My respect for Obama grew another notch...n/t  dugggy   Jan-17-08 05:38 PM   #126 
  - OMG!!!! WHAT?!?!?!  stravu9   Jan-17-08 05:42 PM   #128 
  - Because he is not a rabid partisan and wants to  dugggy   Jan-17-08 10:27 PM   #138 
     - The Democratic Party Keeps Going Further to The Right...  stravu9   Jan-18-08 01:18 PM   #161 
  - Just what we need. More smoke and mirrors fro the supply-side crowd  Yael   Jan-17-08 05:51 PM   #130 
  - Party of BAD Ideas...  fujiyama   Jan-17-08 06:32 PM   #133 
  - Can you imagine any of the rethug candidates praising the modern Democratic Party?  jackson_dem   Jan-17-08 09:58 PM   #136 
  - Obama sounds like an idiot  leftofthedial   Jan-17-08 10:01 PM   #137 
  - Extremely Disquieting and upsetting  LulaMay   Jan-17-08 10:44 PM   #139 
  - I think the more telling point is that...  Steely_Dan   Jan-17-08 10:50 PM   #140 
  - Everything you said. Thanks, themartyred. K&R n/t  timeforarevolution   Jan-17-08 11:29 PM   #144 
  - They are the party of ideas THAT GET BIG MSM BLASTS all the time!  eridani   Jan-17-08 11:55 PM   #146 
  - The Obamites  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-18-08 12:02 AM   #147 
  - Complaints Are NOT Ideas  Senator   Jan-18-08 04:52 AM   #149 
  - Its just an attack on the Clintons, note 1993 is the start of the Clinton era  Jim4Wes   Jan-18-08 04:54 AM   #150 
  - All you have to do to beat Obama is let him open his mouth.  Perry Logan   Jan-18-08 05:55 AM   #151 
  - And Obama is exactly right. This is the argument Paul Krugman makes  HamdenRice   Jan-18-08 07:40 AM   #152 
  - Agreed, the Republican party is a party of ideas  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jan-18-08 08:08 AM   #153 
  - Damn JustABozo, you should post that as a separate OP. Good stuff. nt  chimpymustgo   Jan-18-08 09:36 AM   #156 
  - Add one: The idea that people needing mental health care  mnhtnbb   Jan-18-08 11:01 AM   #159 
  - If I said that Hitler was a man with ideas who inspired a nation I would not be endorsing him  cindyw   Jan-18-08 11:35 AM   #160 
 

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