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Thu Jan-17-08 02:00 PM
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| 36. No, to cut costs... don't want to spend too much on kids. |
| -Obama praises GOP as being the "party of ideas the past 10-15 years" |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 01:37 PM |
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Obama's comment will be misconstrued as a judgement. It isn't. |
sparosnare |
Jan-17-08 01:38 PM |
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if the ideas they spoke |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 01:42 PM |
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I call BS on that spin. "Party of ideas" is a compliment. Period. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-17-08 01:46 PM |
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thank you! |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 01:47 PM |
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Yup. No two ways about that. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
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no other way to see it, really. |
bettyellen |
Jan-17-08 01:54 PM |
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Protecting peoples rights isn't an idea, ideas are for policies to do with |
harun |
Jan-17-08 02:45 PM |
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No doubt Obama is bowing to Reagan's ideas. That makes me sick. |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-17-08 05:46 PM |
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so, he believes they're evil- but that this is not at all relevant? |
bettyellen |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
#23 |
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Of course |
Politicub |
Jan-17-08 11:33 PM |
#145 |
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Yes, they were the party of ideas, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-17-08 01:39 PM |
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This is all fabrication, lies and distortion and you know it and I know it. |
Bonobo |
Jan-17-08 01:40 PM |
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OH. MY . GOD. Take your damn blinders off. |
jlake |
Jan-17-08 02:46 PM |
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I absolutely disagree |
seasonedblue |
Jan-18-08 10:40 AM |
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Neither did I. |
aquart |
Jan-17-08 01:40 PM |
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Such BS |
gmudem |
Jan-17-08 02:27 PM |
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"You old folks" |
seasonedblue |
Jan-17-08 02:31 PM |
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You can see my point if you read the post. |
gmudem |
Jan-17-08 02:36 PM |
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I understand that, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-17-08 02:38 PM |
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Nobody's bashing the "youth vote" here, dillweed |
dbaker41 |
Jan-17-08 03:50 PM |
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Really? |
gmudem |
Jan-17-08 07:14 PM |
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Yeah, I read aquart's post. Frankly, I agree with him 100% |
dbaker41 |
Jan-18-08 10:37 AM |
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Hey, I'm not only one of the "old folks", I'm one of the "old, white folks". |
ladjf |
Jan-17-08 02:56 PM |
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"we get bashed"? |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:37 PM |
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Try reading aquart's post |
gmudem |
Jan-17-08 07:17 PM |
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my head is spinning. nt |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-17-08 01:42 PM |
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Please Edward's supporters, get off the slime machine. This is sick. eom |
Bonobo |
Jan-17-08 01:39 PM |
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I just listened to the linked interview |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 02:03 PM |
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Well JE is my top choice. It's just the Clinton supporters' sliminess that disgusts me. |
Bonobo |
Jan-17-08 02:16 PM |
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There's plenty of sliminess |
seasonedblue |
Jan-17-08 02:28 PM |
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He did not go to Harvard Business School he went to Harvard Law School |
karynnj |
Jan-17-08 03:08 PM |
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Oops, I stand corrected |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 05:40 PM |
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I have kids who attended 2 different high schools |
karynnj |
Jan-17-08 06:20 PM |
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Excellent.... |
Steely_Dan |
Jan-17-08 10:54 PM |
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Bingo. The comments show he's out of touch with part of his base |
donkeyotay |
Jan-18-08 08:20 AM |
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Some of us posted warnings about Obama after reading his book, The Audacity of Hope |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 01:40 PM |
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THIS THREAD, FOR THOSE COUNTING, SHOULD SHOW PEOPLE"S TRUE COLORS. |
Bonobo |
Jan-17-08 01:40 PM |
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listen to your candidate, he says not to get in a scrum or a wrestling match over discussing issues |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 01:46 PM |
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so far only the post above yours is shouting (caps) |
rodeodance |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
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Yes it does |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 02:04 PM |
#43 |
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Will you be taking names? nt |
2rth2pwr |
Jan-17-08 02:14 PM |
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True! Always been anti-Reagan - no shame of hiding it! Uncomitted, ant-reagan |
robbedvoter |
Jan-17-08 02:29 PM |
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Here's my warning from last May |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 01:45 PM |
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Thanks--gosh last May already. Good for you for reading it. |
rodeodance |
Jan-17-08 01:52 PM |
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I wanted to know what was getting everybody so excited. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:02 PM |
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I read your posts a few days ago--I was surprized, as others were, of his words to say the least. |
rodeodance |
Jan-17-08 01:48 PM |
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Nauseating. |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-17-08 01:40 PM |
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How are they the party of ideas? |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 01:42 PM |
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If Ketchup is a vegetable, then pauperizing the country is an "idea" |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-17-08 01:47 PM |
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And cutting taxes to benefit primarily the rich... |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 01:51 PM |
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And dumping the poor mentally ill out into the streets to be homeless |
Bluestar |
Jan-17-08 02:01 PM |
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YES! This started in California when Reagan was Governor. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:09 PM |
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a vague memory is stirring |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-17-08 01:51 PM |
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Under his administration Ketchup was considered a vegetable in school lunches |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 01:59 PM |
#33 |
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No, to cut costs... don't want to spend too much on kids. |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:00 PM |
#36 |
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He also said there were no hungry people in America |
rodeodance |
Jan-17-08 02:08 PM |
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And homeless people are homeless cause they want to be. |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:12 PM |
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And the Beach Boys were an example of degenerate rock music... it was a great decade |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-17-08 02:15 PM |
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When they cut the school lunch program, they re-defined ketchup as a "vegetable serving" |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-17-08 01:59 PM |
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At least some of us on DU have memories! |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:00 PM |
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ketchup is the only veggie i get.... |
NavyDavy |
Jan-17-08 02:02 PM |
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This is great. All the key actors in one thread. Very efficient. |
Bonobo |
Jan-17-08 01:43 PM |
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Oh shit. You are taking names. nt |
2rth2pwr |
Jan-17-08 02:14 PM |
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I don't know why |
whatdoyouthink |
Jan-17-08 01:46 PM |
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*bangs head on table* |
Crisco |
Jan-17-08 01:48 PM |
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Has Obama forgotten which primary he's running in? |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
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Wait a minute. I thought he just got done praising Reagan??? 10-15 years ago is way after Reagan. |
Carrieyazel |
Jan-17-08 01:49 PM |
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Some great fucking ideas. |
balantz |
Jan-17-08 01:52 PM |
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OMG, what an idiot! He should be embarrassed. |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 01:53 PM |
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He's pandering to the Republicans that have been embarrassed by Bushie |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:04 PM |
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Good luck with that |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 02:07 PM |
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I really wish he had used FDR as an example |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-17-08 01:57 PM |
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Of course people remember FDR. |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:02 PM |
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Schools and universities don't teach much about FDR |
OzarkDem |
Jan-17-08 02:05 PM |
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No, but parents do. |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:11 PM |
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Once gain, Obama embraces a right-wing talking point. |
uberblonde |
Jan-17-08 02:03 PM |
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Damn. Thanks for the links. |
Yael |
Jan-17-08 06:27 PM |
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I agree |
grantcart |
Jan-17-08 02:05 PM |
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In which primary is he running? |
Bluebear |
Jan-17-08 02:06 PM |
#47 |
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a republican in Democrat clothing? |
bluedog |
Jan-17-08 02:08 PM |
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Club Obama ON Break Or Something? N/T |
soundguy |
Jan-17-08 02:21 PM |
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Yeah, where's FrenchieCat? |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:26 PM |
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They were the party of ideas as far as Americans were concerned... |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-17-08 02:09 PM |
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Their idea was to paraphrase Jack Kennedy.. Ask not what you can |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:11 PM |
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But it did speak to them... |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-17-08 02:13 PM |
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Reagan appealed to everyone's narcissism. He gave them approval |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:19 PM |
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Carter was asked if he'd trade places in history with Reagan |
donkeyotay |
Jan-18-08 08:46 AM |
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Your defense of Obama is getting much less adament. Where are the exclamation points? nt |
2rth2pwr |
Jan-17-08 02:19 PM |
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Its true. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:18 PM |
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My favorite Raygun moment: |
Yuugal |
Jan-17-08 02:20 PM |
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'"Reagan spoke to the failure of liberal government, ......." |
Bluebear |
Jan-17-08 02:21 PM |
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Yes. Is that somehow untrue as a historical observation about Reagan's message? |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:24 PM |
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It builds up Reagan by quoting him. No Dem leader should... |
gulliver |
Jan-17-08 11:04 PM |
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if he doesn't agree with it, then why does he keep saying it? |
noiretblu |
Jan-17-08 11:26 PM |
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I geuss the people complaining about Obama here don't want Democrats to win. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:22 PM |
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Your candidate is screwing up. Attacking people who point that out |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 02:24 PM |
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Screwing up how? |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:25 PM |
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So what does Obama stand for? Getting down with Reagan supporters? |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:28 PM |
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God forbid we should win an election by persuading anyone beyond |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:33 PM |
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You just said we win elections by standing for something. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 02:36 PM |
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You are being so close-minded, knee jerk and dogmatic. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:42 PM |
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Again with the personal attacks. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 02:54 PM |
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What a coincidence, I'm supporting John Edwards for the very same reason. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 02:29 PM |
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Obama has the record supporting gay rights. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:35 PM |
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Then you want John Edwards, because his words say who he's running to speak for. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 02:45 PM |
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So he pandered to conservatives as a Senator. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:49 PM |
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According to you, that won't happen. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 03:01 PM |
#105 |
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I don't think Obama will triangulate because |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 03:06 PM |
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Chicago progressives are a dime a dozen. If Obama could have compiled the same record |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 03:13 PM |
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You're talking about pure speculation |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 03:16 PM |
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I didn't bring it up. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 03:25 PM |
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Read up on Edwards clean coal platform |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 03:34 PM |
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What makes John Edwards different is that he supports |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 03:45 PM |
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There is no such thing as clean coal. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 03:51 PM |
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From John Edwards Platform: |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-17-08 04:05 PM |
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I want Democrats to win with a true Democrat--John Edwards! |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:24 PM |
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And I'd like the candidate who voted like a Democrat |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:26 PM |
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And I'd like Jesus H. Christ. I am looking to the future, not the past. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:31 PM |
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There's a third choice... |
FredScuttle |
Jan-17-08 02:27 PM |
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You really don't get it. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:31 PM |
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Tell me, have you read his book? The Audacity of Hope? |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:34 PM |
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Yes, I've read the book. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:38 PM |
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Oh, yes. 'Present' is SO progressive. And as for slick stump speeches, |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 05:34 PM |
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He seems to echo a lot of right wing talking points... |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:40 PM |
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I will submit they have offered a clearer agenda. |
Zynx |
Jan-17-08 02:23 PM |
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The M$M helped, too... can't ignore that effect. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jan-17-08 02:26 PM |
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See post #63. Republicans (Reagan) appeal to everyone's narcissism. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 02:27 PM |
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There are ways to present a clear progressive agenda. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-17-08 02:29 PM |
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Not true |
debatepro |
Jan-17-08 02:34 PM |
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What rock did Obama crawl out from under? eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Jan-17-08 02:27 PM |
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The fact is that people are finding it difficult fighting Obama |
bambino |
Jan-17-08 02:45 PM |
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Can you say brown noser? |
Auntie Bush |
Jan-17-08 03:11 PM |
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The more I try to like Obama the more he reminds me that I don't know who he is |
Az_lefty |
Jan-17-08 03:33 PM |
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That's because he doesn't know who he is. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 05:36 PM |
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if that's change, who needs it? nt |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-17-08 03:48 PM |
#115 |
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Obama is looking forward to the general election. |
totodeinhere |
Jan-17-08 04:16 PM |
#119 |
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I know... |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 04:33 PM |
#120 |
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he's not won this yet. do you agree this is a mistake? or you think it's wise, even now? |
themartyred |
Jan-17-08 04:38 PM |
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I agree that Obama is idealistic and perhaps naive |
totodeinhere |
Jan-17-08 05:15 PM |
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I wouldn't call it brave to invoke Reagan. I would call it seriously misguided. |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-17-08 05:37 PM |
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I understand your point |
totodeinhere |
Jan-18-08 02:41 AM |
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My respect for Obama grew another notch...n/t |
dugggy |
Jan-17-08 05:38 PM |
#126 |
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OMG!!!! WHAT?!?!?! |
stravu9 |
Jan-17-08 05:42 PM |
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Because he is not a rabid partisan and wants to |
dugggy |
Jan-17-08 10:27 PM |
#138 |
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The Democratic Party Keeps Going Further to The Right... |
stravu9 |
Jan-18-08 01:18 PM |
#161 |
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Just what we need. More smoke and mirrors fro the supply-side crowd |
Yael |
Jan-17-08 05:51 PM |
#130 |
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Party of BAD Ideas... |
fujiyama |
Jan-17-08 06:32 PM |
#133 |
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Can you imagine any of the rethug candidates praising the modern Democratic Party? |
jackson_dem |
Jan-17-08 09:58 PM |
#136 |
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Obama sounds like an idiot |
leftofthedial |
Jan-17-08 10:01 PM |
#137 |
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Extremely Disquieting and upsetting |
LulaMay |
Jan-17-08 10:44 PM |
#139 |
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I think the more telling point is that... |
Steely_Dan |
Jan-17-08 10:50 PM |
#140 |
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Everything you said. Thanks, themartyred. K&R n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-17-08 11:29 PM |
#144 |
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They are the party of ideas THAT GET BIG MSM BLASTS all the time! |
eridani |
Jan-17-08 11:55 PM |
#146 |
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The Obamites |
ClericJohnPreston |
Jan-18-08 12:02 AM |
#147 |
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Complaints Are NOT Ideas |
Senator |
Jan-18-08 04:52 AM |
#149 |
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Its just an attack on the Clintons, note 1993 is the start of the Clinton era |
Jim4Wes |
Jan-18-08 04:54 AM |
#150 |
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All you have to do to beat Obama is let him open his mouth. |
Perry Logan |
Jan-18-08 05:55 AM |
#151 |
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And Obama is exactly right. This is the argument Paul Krugman makes |
HamdenRice |
Jan-18-08 07:40 AM |
#152 |
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Agreed, the Republican party is a party of ideas |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-18-08 08:08 AM |
#153 |
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Damn JustABozo, you should post that as a separate OP. Good stuff. nt |
chimpymustgo |
Jan-18-08 09:36 AM |
#156 |
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Add one: The idea that people needing mental health care |
mnhtnbb |
Jan-18-08 11:01 AM |
#159 |
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If I said that Hitler was a man with ideas who inspired a nation I would not be endorsing him |
cindyw |
Jan-18-08 11:35 AM |
#160 |
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