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Tue Jan-15-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #61 |
| 65. law professor, community organizer, actually lived there |
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Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 01:32 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
unlike HRC in NY
still no answer to what she's done for NY state....
edit - answer from others posted below....
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| -Voting present as a state legislator & missing half a year in his 1st Senate term to campaign. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 12:33 PM |
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Yes, and compare that to being elected senator on your husbands last name |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:34 PM |
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We did not elect HRC on her last name. She campaigned and earned |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 12:37 PM |
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Right, we would have elected some other out of stater with no experience |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:44 PM |
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Then you know she was invited to run ... and I for one, appreciate |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 12:51 PM |
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I was busy with Gore |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:53 PM |
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"invited" - how nice - by whom? based on what? |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:55 PM |
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Look it up ... even the Republicans in our state recruited her n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 12:59 PM |
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well, so much for her liberal credentials n/t |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:13 PM |
#56 |
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We want a winning candidate, don't we? n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 01:59 PM |
#95 |
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you just made the argument for Obama |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:48 PM |
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No ... we made sure HRC served out a full first term |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 12:50 PM |
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who the heck is "we"? |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:53 PM |
#20 |
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don't ask |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:55 PM |
#23 |
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NY has a history - we're proud of giving a seat to RFK |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 12:57 PM |
#28 |
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I would have opposed RFK on the same principle |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:00 PM |
#34 |
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Did she promise to complete her second term when she ran the second time? |
Big Blue Marble |
Jan-15-08 03:38 PM |
#100 |
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Yeah, I'm sure you were the ones who made her do that |
ISUGRADIA |
Jan-15-08 04:12 PM |
#108 |
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Obama has 11 years if elected experience |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:54 PM |
#21 |
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And that won him no respect from Charlie Rangel. Ignore reality, but |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 01:00 PM |
#33 |
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You're wrong again. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:03 PM |
#38 |
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She used NY as a stepping stone to the White House, nothing more |
JackORoses |
Jan-15-08 12:59 PM |
#32 |
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Because Obama is a dedicated Senator from Illinois who thought nothing of the Presidency! |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:01 PM |
#35 |
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I was used by Hillary for political reasons. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:04 PM |
#40 |
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Which is why Obama is dedicated to serving out his FIRST Senate term right? |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:06 PM |
#43 |
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um, he has a career history in IL, unlike her in NY |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:11 PM |
#53 |
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Yes, 11 years as a state legislator voting present on the tough issues. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:18 PM |
#61 |
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law professor, community organizer, actually lived there |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:23 PM |
#65 |
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Actually 8 years in the state leg voting present to protect a womens right to choose. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:35 PM |
#79 |
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is this true? nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-15-08 03:40 PM |
#101 |
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Yes, It's true. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 04:10 PM |
#106 |
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He voted present 130 times. Only a handful of those votes related to abortion |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:17 PM |
#111 |
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You don't get it, do you ... we asked her here. That's a public fact |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-15-08 01:55 PM |
#94 |
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NY didn't seem to mind |
paulk |
Jan-15-08 04:02 PM |
#105 |
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She came a calling with that Clinton brand. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jan-15-08 03:37 PM |
#98 |
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Have you figured out where she stands on drivers licenses for illegals yet? |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 12:41 PM |
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shame on you! this is a very sexist remark!!! |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 12:47 PM |
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There is no shame in the truth |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 12:52 PM |
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IRON MY SHIRT!!!! |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 01:05 PM |
#42 |
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looks to me like HRC is Bill's ticket around that darn constitutional amendment n/t |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:10 PM |
#50 |
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She was elected because she was famous. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:34 PM |
#76 |
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there are many great couples... and the Clintons are among them! |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 01:40 PM |
#87 |
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It is not sexist to say that she is running on the Clinton brand. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jan-15-08 03:47 PM |
#102 |
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It's the truth so don't |
zidzi |
Jan-15-08 05:28 PM |
#120 |
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Women Are Never Front-Runners |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 06:49 PM |
#123 |
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hmm, do you think hill helped bill get where he got in the first place? or are wives just maids w/ b |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-15-08 05:13 PM |
#110 |
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Missing half a year? |
redqueen |
Jan-15-08 12:38 PM |
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of course |
mkultra |
Jan-15-08 12:41 PM |
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He's missed 37% of the Congressional votes this session. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 12:42 PM |
#6 |
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Ouch. (nt) |
redqueen |
Jan-15-08 12:44 PM |
#7 |
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?s on Clinton's record. |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:45 PM |
#9 |
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Hillary has missed 23.3% of votes this session of Congress |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 12:48 PM |
#15 |
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sounds like they're both putting themselves first to me n/t |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:56 PM |
#25 |
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Hillary promised not to run her first term... for this reason! |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 01:43 PM |
#89 |
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I love the smell of hyperbole in the morning! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-15-08 12:45 PM |
#10 |
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What bothers me most is his lack of understanding of foreign policy |
question everything |
Jan-15-08 12:48 PM |
#13 |
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loss of the experience |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 12:57 PM |
#26 |
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hillary? |
mkultra |
Jan-15-08 01:06 PM |
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And when did Reza Aslan become an expert in foreign policy? |
Mass |
Jan-15-08 01:13 PM |
#55 |
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Europe's economy is something like $10 trillion |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:20 PM |
#113 |
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You have to be present to vote present |
killbotfactory |
Jan-15-08 12:48 PM |
#14 |
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read it and then tell me how he is a leader! |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 12:56 PM |
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Barack Obama should be ashamed of himself... |
CyberPieHole |
Jan-15-08 12:57 PM |
#27 |
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see the abortion rights group for an explanation of the present votes |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:06 PM |
#45 |
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No, they're not interested in the facts. Only nitpicking. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-15-08 01:13 PM |
#58 |
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Obama should not claim to be above it all and a leader if he hides from his vote |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 01:22 PM |
#64 |
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What about the other 110-120 present votes that had zero to do with abortion? |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:21 PM |
#114 |
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No means No |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 05:28 PM |
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That isn't what Barack himself says |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:31 PM |
#121 |
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"Present" means No |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 06:39 PM |
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Sen. Obama voted 'present' 129 times while in the State Senate |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 12:58 PM |
#29 |
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more details |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 03:22 PM |
#96 |
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Kick and recommend...Obama has been a disaster as a Senator... |
CyberPieHole |
Jan-15-08 12:59 PM |
#30 |
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AND..this guy was a playboy Dilettante |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:38 PM |
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How does Obama's experience compared to JFK's? |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:23 PM |
#116 |
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Disaster...you must mean Hillary's top down, I won't compromise |
ISUGRADIA |
Jan-15-08 04:16 PM |
#109 |
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Exactly what are you trying to imply here? |
Skidmore |
Jan-15-08 01:01 PM |
#36 |
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Kyl-Lieberman; Obama couldn't even bother to show up. Now, that's leadership! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-15-08 01:03 PM |
#37 |
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Is it better to show up and be wrong? |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:04 PM |
#41 |
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Goes back to his voting present now doesn't it? |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 01:06 PM |
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No |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:31 PM |
#71 |
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Newsflash, they are paid to SHOW up. 16 percent of missed votes for Obama. |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-15-08 01:09 PM |
#49 |
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The vote was moved |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:31 PM |
#72 |
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Hillary Clinton missed 143 of 2394 votes (6%) Barack Obama missed 177 of 1086 votes (16%) |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 05:22 PM |
#115 |
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Yes asking a Senator to do their job is oh so taxing. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:11 PM |
#52 |
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Tell your candidate to show up too while you're at it. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-15-08 01:25 PM |
#67 |
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She's only missed 6 percent of votes as a Senator, pretty impressive compared to others. |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-15-08 01:29 PM |
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Rinsd says it was 23.3% of missed votes. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-15-08 01:34 PM |
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Maybe he/she is combining his record for both state, and U.S. Senator? |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-15-08 01:36 PM |
#81 |
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23.3% missed votes for Hillary & 37.6% missed votes for Obama are for this Congressional session |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:37 PM |
#83 |
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I expect them to miss some votes during campaign season. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:33 PM |
#75 |
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How did Hillary vote on Peru trade? |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:32 PM |
#73 |
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I believe it was NV. Same as Obama. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:35 PM |
#80 |
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Yes asking a Senator to do their job is oh so taxing. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 01:52 PM |
#92 |
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Missed lotsa votes in 1960 & 1968 |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:39 PM |
#85 |
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I believe Planned Parenthood. Not the lies of the Clinton campaign. n/t |
beachmom |
Jan-15-08 01:04 PM |
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See post #29, and feel free to point out the lies. |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 01:08 PM |
#48 |
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As Do I... |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:40 PM |
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spam sundae |
cali |
Jan-15-08 01:06 PM |
#46 |
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The present vote has been explained several times on here. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-15-08 01:11 PM |
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shhh, don't confuse them with facts |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:12 PM |
#54 |
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Hillary has missed 23.3%, Obama has missed over 37%. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:13 PM |
#57 |
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I'd say 23 and 37% are both pretty lousy n/t |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:16 PM |
#60 |
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23.3, 37. Who the hell cares about percentages? |
Connie_Corleone |
Jan-15-08 01:26 PM |
#68 |
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So did this guy: March,1968 thru June,1968 |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:43 PM |
#88 |
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LOL...that Obama cult on full display. |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 05:18 PM |
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I never heard this: |
seasonedblue |
Jan-15-08 05:26 PM |
#118 |
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Thats not the only thing he voted present on. |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 01:14 PM |
#59 |
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Obamites pretend as if his present votes were only about abortion |
jackson_dem |
Jan-15-08 05:25 PM |
#117 |
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still no answer to my question about what she's done for NY? (#9 above) |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:21 PM |
#62 |
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Start a thread about it and you'll probably get a answer. |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 01:22 PM |
#63 |
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Here's her letter to NYers on the latest session |
rinsd |
Jan-15-08 01:25 PM |
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Didn't he give a bunch of free bust trips to Iowa? |
William769 |
Jan-15-08 01:28 PM |
#69 |
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What's a free bust trip? |
tammywammy |
Jan-15-08 01:35 PM |
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I could use a free bust about now |
WesDem |
Jan-15-08 03:49 PM |
#103 |
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thanks for the link |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:32 PM |
#74 |
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people don't value experience |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 01:51 PM |
#91 |
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yeah. for some reason I thought it would be different this time. Sigh. n/t |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jan-15-08 01:55 PM |
#93 |
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Stats? Keeping A List & checking it TWICE ! |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:45 PM |
#90 |
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Here's a Guy with a bad Senate record of votes in 1960 |
GalleryGod |
Jan-15-08 01:36 PM |
#82 |
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He should be campaigning from his Senate desk and no where else? |
LanternWaste |
Jan-15-08 03:37 PM |
#97 |
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I did a comparison for my DU Journal, fwiw |
WesDem |
Jan-15-08 03:38 PM |
#99 |
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Biden |
cd3dem |
Jan-15-08 03:56 PM |
#104 |
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That should go in it's own post. |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-15-08 04:12 PM |
#107 |
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