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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 04:01 PM
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34. And AGAIN Kerry pointed out where enforcing EXISTING law in NAFTA
would have made a difference..there ARE some labor rights provisions and there ARE ways to BRING FORD around without taking away the progress that could help Mexico.

There are also ways to LEAN on government leadership in these nations.

BTW..I can live Ocean front in Mexico with a maid every day for less than 500 a month...making half as much is probably not necessary given THEIR cost of living.
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  -Folks, Here's the basic problem with NAFTA Armstead  Feb-27-04 02:29 PM   #0 
  - Don't forget Chapter 11!  redqueen   Feb-27-04 02:36 PM   #1 
  - I agree w/redqueen  cprise   Feb-27-04 02:41 PM   #2 
  - Much better term - anti-democratic  redqueen   Feb-27-04 02:51 PM   #5 
  - Not only their profits, the profits they "would have made!!"  revcarol   Feb-27-04 03:02 PM   #11 
  - Oh excellent point, revcarol! POTENTIAL profits!  redqueen   Feb-27-04 03:04 PM   #15 
  - like Enron's "Hypothetical Value Accounting"  WhoCountsTheVotes   Feb-27-04 03:14 PM   #20 
  - Kerry Has Already Written Legislation To End The Chapter 11 Issue  DrFunkenstein   Feb-28-04 02:18 PM   #42 
  - Thanks for that explanation  democratreformed   Feb-27-04 02:45 PM   #3 
  - Canada had to pay $13 million to a US corporation  gula   Feb-27-04 03:04 PM   #14 
  - So how could you watch the debates last night and then claim that Kerry  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 02:50 PM   #4 
  - Actually NSMA I haven't watched yet  redqueen   Feb-27-04 02:55 PM   #7 
  - Most people would prefer food over phones  gula   Feb-27-04 02:57 PM   #8 
  - I am well aware of that, and AGAIN it was addressed  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:03 PM   #13 
     - Going out on a limb here  redqueen   Feb-27-04 03:06 PM   #17 
     - In part I agree  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:11 PM   #19 
     - BTW Redqueen..I want to say I respect your position  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:17 PM   #22 
        - Thanks, NSMA  redqueen   Feb-27-04 03:23 PM   #25 
     - I beg to differ NSMA.  denverbill   Feb-27-04 03:26 PM   #27 
        - I agree DB..what left were JOBS that did not exist in the first place  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:29 PM   #29 
           - Backing up from an abject failure is.  denverbill   Feb-27-04 03:56 PM   #32 
              - And AGAIN Kerry pointed out where enforcing EXISTING law in NAFTA  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 04:01 PM   #34 
  - Isolationism was not my point  Armstead   Feb-27-04 03:05 PM   #16 
     - However in the past when we did that we elevated Canada and Mexico  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:08 PM   #18 
        - Improve the old without throwing out the baby with the bathwater  Armstead   Feb-27-04 03:16 PM   #21 
           - Enforcing what there IS to enforce is at least a start that does not  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:20 PM   #23 
              - I hope Kerry will do the right thing  Armstead   Feb-27-04 03:50 PM   #30 
                 - I've never demanded hardening of the arteries  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-27-04 03:57 PM   #33 
  - All true "One Size Fits All Trade"  sangh0   Feb-27-04 02:55 PM   #6 
  - My God, the sky must be falling! Did you just agree w/Armstead?  IrateCitizen   Feb-27-04 03:01 PM   #9 
     - NO  sangh0   Feb-27-04 03:02 PM   #12 
  - Basic economics  jhfenton   Feb-27-04 03:02 PM   #10 
  - no, basic economics does NOT dictate any such thing  WhoCountsTheVotes   Feb-27-04 03:28 PM   #28 
  - It also doesnt have any of the safety nets the EU has  absyntheNsugar   Feb-27-04 03:21 PM   #24 
  - Doesn't the EU require that trading partners live up to their standards?  redqueen   Feb-27-04 03:24 PM   #26 
  - That's right about the EU  TorchesAndPitchforks   Feb-27-04 03:53 PM   #31 
  - hey, Armstead, have you read  ulysses   Feb-27-04 04:49 PM   #35 
  - I saw it in the bookstore  Armstead   Feb-27-04 04:54 PM   #36 
  - What about national sovereignty vis-a-vis enforcement of standards?  rhite5   Feb-27-04 06:53 PM   #37 
  - Cold Reality about NAFTA and WTO  TorchesAndPitchforks   Feb-27-04 08:17 PM   #38 
  - The cold reality -- free trade is bad economics  idlisambar   Feb-28-04 01:07 AM   #39 
     - What kind of trade?  TorchesAndPitchforks   Feb-28-04 01:01 PM   #40 
        - I completely agree.  rhite5   Feb-28-04 01:24 PM   #41 
        - I'm not arguing against trade...  idlisambar   Feb-28-04 04:34 PM   #43 
        - "We must continue to trade but move back to bi-lateral agreements..."  scarletwoman   Feb-28-04 04:46 PM   #44 
  - Bill Moyers & "Frontline" said it's "Chapter 13 of Nafta" that's big  KoKo01   Feb-28-04 05:38 PM   #45 
 

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