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155. If she gets the nomination and loses the GE,
no amount of whining about "Dem traitors" is going to reverse her fortunes. So why not take a deep breath and vote for someone who is mostly acceptable to the Democratic party. No matter what the other Dems flaws are NONE of them are as divisive among DEMOCRATS as Hillary - and shouldn't that be what matters most, or is the 50% + 1 strategy really the way Clinton fans want to go. I would prefer a candidate that is at least popular among Democrats.
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  -Am I the only one going to have trouble voting for Hillary in a General Election? Meldread  Jan-12-08 08:51 PM   #0 
  - I'm not feeling too warm and fuzzy  Blue_In_AK   Jan-12-08 08:52 PM   #1 
  - Obama and Edwards are both smearing HRC  neutron   Jan-12-08 08:55 PM   #6 
  - Hillary is reminding me too much of the status quo. Her methods are depressing  Morereason   Jan-13-08 04:48 PM   #142 
  - If you believe ANY of the accusations made by the Obamites, you are a fool.  Perry Logan   Jan-12-08 08:52 PM   #2 
  - Since the Clintonites' BS has been flung at Edwards and Richardson also,  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-13-08 03:08 PM   #138 
  - The Obama camp is spreading virilent lies about Clinton  neutron   Jan-12-08 08:52 PM   #3 
  - Wow. Now I know how Clinton supporters can stomach her.  dkf   Jan-12-08 08:59 PM   #12 
  - Yep, that blind faithful quality is very  ZinZen   Jan-13-08 07:53 PM   #170 
  - Funny, I thought it was the WaPo that had the article about  NCevilDUer   Jan-12-08 09:12 PM   #38 
  - yeah, virilent (sic.) lies like "Hillary voted for the IWR" and never apologized  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-13-08 06:54 PM   #149 
  - What dirty tricks? nt  MADem   Jan-12-08 08:52 PM   #4 
  - These:  Meldread   Jan-12-08 09:02 PM   #17 
  - As you know the plot thickens .. the plaintiffs approved the sites in the first place  thunder rising   Jan-12-08 09:10 PM   #32 
  - Everyone working the mid shift was disenfranchised in Iowa, and no one cried for them.  MADem   Jan-12-08 09:32 PM   #52 
  - So, it is "he says, she says" and you choose "his"  question everything   Jan-12-08 09:36 PM   #55 
  - For example...  lapfog_1   Jan-12-08 09:03 PM   #20 
     - Well, we'll never know if they would have objected. And 'leaning Clinton' isn't the same as  MADem   Jan-12-08 09:20 PM   #44 
        - It does sound like an unfair advantage for the union  creeksneakers2   Jan-12-08 09:28 PM   #50 
        - You have no idea how big these properties are, do you?  lapfog_1   Jan-12-08 10:00 PM   #64 
        - "Nearby restaurants instead"  lapfog_1   Jan-12-08 09:49 PM   #60 
           - Yes I have. It's been awhile, but I've stayed at the Hilton and the MGM Grand.  MADem   Jan-13-08 12:27 AM   #79 
  - I may be way off base here, but I'm thinking no. There could be one or even two other people here  BleedingHeartPatriot   Jan-12-08 08:53 PM   #5 
  - Nope, I just posted on another thread that I will NEVER vote for her now. And it really does hurt to  jezebel   Jan-12-08 08:55 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-12-08 08:57 PM   #10 
  - A freeper I am not, trust me on that. nt  jezebel   Jan-12-08 08:59 PM   #14 
     - they call anyone a freeper  gaiilonfong   Jan-12-08 09:11 PM   #34 
  - i think it's sad that a site about democrats is making us...  annie1   Jan-12-08 08:57 PM   #11 
  - Is there, or is there not a lawsuit to prevent caucusing stations  NCevilDUer   Jan-12-08 09:20 PM   #45 
  - Tactics unworthy  Bluenorthwest   Jan-13-08 08:30 PM   #180 
  - Read the lawsuit... all of it.  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 03:31 AM   #89 
  - oh brother...sure misread the politics, and let the repugs stack  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-13-08 07:06 PM   #156 
  - Do not believe everything you read, we have no prove anything regarding NV.  annie1   Jan-12-08 08:56 PM   #8 
  - Four of the plaintiffs were at the meetings when they agreed to the plan.  dkf   Jan-12-08 09:03 PM   #19 
  - they're preserving their own interests. doesn't mean hrc camp is behind this.  annie1   Jan-12-08 09:04 PM   #23 
  - The stuff regarding Nevada would have to be one hellva coincidence.  Meldread   Jan-12-08 09:11 PM   #33 
     - The teachers union has their own politics and their own agenda...  annie1   Jan-12-08 09:16 PM   #40 
  - You're not alone  DJ13   Jan-12-08 08:56 PM   #9 
  - Do us all a favor, all you Clinton haters who threaten to hold your noses. Hold it and don't let go!  mtnsnake   Jan-12-08 08:59 PM   #13 
  - That was uncalled for n/t  Mojorabbit   Jan-12-08 09:02 PM   #16 
  - Actually, it was totally called for--look at the OP.  MADem   Jan-12-08 09:36 PM   #56 
     - So you'll vote for Fred Phelps?  Meldread   Jan-12-08 09:49 PM   #59 
     - Oh please. He claims to be a Democrat to get a rise out of people like you.  MADem   Jan-13-08 12:30 AM   #80 
     - So I take that as a... yes?  Meldread   Jan-13-08 09:38 AM   #109 
        - Yeah, Phelps embraces the pro-choice, equal rights, GLBT rights platforms of the party.  MADem   Jan-13-08 01:09 PM   #126 
     - Vote for Phelps?  Bluenorthwest   Jan-13-08 07:45 PM   #166 
     - Nope.  lapfog_1   Jan-12-08 10:57 PM   #71 
        - You mean like giving a group of union workers an unfair percentage advantage,  MADem   Jan-13-08 12:33 AM   #82 
           - Please read the lawsuit  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 03:08 AM   #87 
              - I did read it. Every word. You might try taking your own advice.  MADem   Jan-13-08 12:59 PM   #125 
                 - You aren't making any sense here  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 10:15 PM   #184 
                    - Oh yes I am. That little ditty doesn't cut it. This is an equal protection issue.  MADem   Jan-14-08 12:01 AM   #185 
  - I'm not even going to try to hold my nose.  dkf   Jan-12-08 09:05 PM   #24 
  - CLASSY!  Blue-Jay   Jan-12-08 09:10 PM   #31 
  - They are proud of themselves, and why shouldn't they be  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-12-08 10:00 PM   #63 
     - I wasn't talking about any "they".  Blue-Jay   Jan-12-08 10:07 PM   #67 
        - True  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-12-08 10:18 PM   #69 
  - Here's an idea, why don't you try your idea while turning on the gas and lighting a match and then  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-13-08 07:05 PM   #154 
  - I will never vote for her. nt  elizm   Jan-12-08 09:00 PM   #15 
  - Lets get te facts on NH. It looks fishy but maybe not.  rwheeler31   Jan-12-08 09:02 PM   #18 
  - So if she is the Dem nominee you are not going to vote  TexasProgresive   Jan-12-08 09:04 PM   #21 
  - Nope.  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:07 AM   #94 
     - I Agree  divineorder   Jan-13-08 07:59 PM   #172 
  - I'll happily vote for her, thank you very much.  avrdream   Jan-12-08 09:04 PM   #22 
  - No, I absolutely will not vote for her. And no money for dems if she's the nominee either.  Bread and Circus   Jan-12-08 09:05 PM   #25 
  - Likewise  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-13-08 07:27 PM   #162 
  - I'm a former Clinton supporter, now with Edwards, and I'm having the same sentiment  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-12-08 09:06 PM   #26 
  - No attempt to disenfrachise  creeksneakers2   Jan-12-08 09:34 PM   #53 
     - Spin Spin Spin.  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:22 AM   #96 
  - With H.Clinton, you either vote Republican or republican...  SnoopDog   Jan-12-08 09:07 PM   #27 
  - You are forgetting DOMA  gaiilonfong   Jan-12-08 09:08 PM   #28 
  - No.  PDittie   Jan-12-08 09:08 PM   #29 
  - i just think its kinda funny  fenriswolf   Jan-12-08 09:09 PM   #30 
  - I agree, and I have great respect for Kucinich and Edwards.  Meldread   Jan-12-08 09:19 PM   #43 
     - My candidate was Biden...  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:38 AM   #100 
        - Team Edwards would love to have your support  Yael   Jan-13-08 06:36 PM   #145 
           - I bought it too, for about one day  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 09:53 PM   #183 
  - Please do NOT let the years of GOPer brainwashing deter any of you from  MasonJar   Jan-12-08 09:11 PM   #35 
  - So be it. We have some good candidates and then we have  Skidmore   Jan-13-08 10:15 AM   #113 
  - YES IF SHE WINS THE PRIMARY I WILL VOTE FOR HER  thunder rising   Jan-12-08 09:12 PM   #36 
  - after this stunt from her campaign in Nevada against low income casino workers  ursi   Jan-12-08 09:12 PM   #37 
  - Great term  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-12-08 11:09 PM   #72 
  - No, you are not the only one. It is time for a fresh face and fresh ideas.  Yael   Jan-12-08 09:15 PM   #39 
  - The dynasty thing alone is turning many people away, but these recent  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-13-08 04:13 AM   #91 
     - Please Al Gore... save us!  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:43 AM   #101 
  - The NV Voter Disenfranchisement is the last straw n/t  sandnsea   Jan-12-08 09:17 PM   #41 
  - Seems to have become the last straw  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-13-08 07:20 PM   #160 
  - No. If she's the nominee, I hope Bloomberg runs and gives me  wienerdoggie   Jan-12-08 09:17 PM   #42 
  - I will have no trouble NOT voting for a Clinton EVER  horseface   Jan-12-08 09:22 PM   #46 
  - Yeah no shit. Neither will the other hundreds of freepers who frequent this place. lol  mtnsnake   Jan-12-08 09:23 PM   #49 
  - Then don't nominate Clinton!!!  martymar64   Jan-12-08 11:52 PM   #74 
     - Well said  Yael   Jan-13-08 02:30 PM   #133 
     - If she gets the nomination and loses the GE,  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-13-08 07:06 PM   #155 
  - Odd  NoPasaran   Jan-12-08 10:07 PM   #68 
  - Nice Insult, Trail of Tears Cherokee killer  martymar64   Jan-12-08 11:53 PM   #75 
     - We name him Wakarusa  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:46 AM   #102 
  - I agree. People may not want to hear it....  Anouka   Jan-12-08 11:32 PM   #73 
  - From Iran to AIPAC to the NV dirty tricks to insurance-company-coddling  dmesg   Jan-12-08 09:23 PM   #47 
  - Yup, mine started out with only one hump...  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 05:50 AM   #103 
     - LOL.  Meldread   Jan-13-08 09:59 AM   #110 
  - no......  unkachuck   Jan-12-08 09:23 PM   #48 
  - How do you know she "played dirty tricks" in NH? Becuaes Obama  question everything   Jan-12-08 09:31 PM   #51 
  - If you don't want a repeat of 68 then don't nominate a warmonger  martymar64   Jan-12-08 11:55 PM   #76 
  - Al Gore won in 2000 eom  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-12-08 09:35 PM   #54 
  - Yes, but check this out.  Meldread   Jan-12-08 09:55 PM   #61 
     - Thanks for the link, I'd been meaning to read that for some time  ccbombs   Jan-13-08 10:29 AM   #115 
  - i won't be too enthused bt damn straight i'll do it!  dionysus   Jan-12-08 09:37 PM   #57 
  - Would vote for her but without passion  Tropics_Dude83   Jan-12-08 09:39 PM   #58 
  - Yeah, that's where I was until tonight.  lapfog_1   Jan-13-08 07:34 AM   #106 
  - After the antics of some of her irresponsible followers on this board  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-12-08 09:58 PM   #62 
  - I won't vote for her because she's just another game player. n/t  laureloak   Jan-12-08 10:01 PM   #65 
  - I'd say the great majority of the country feels the same way.  dailykoff   Jan-12-08 10:02 PM   #66 
  - I would vote for McCain or no one!  rufus dog   Jan-12-08 10:19 PM   #70 
  - Saying you'll vote for a Republican in the GE is against DU rules  LostinVA   Jan-13-08 06:49 PM   #146 
  - She'll be hard to vote for if she's the nominee  DFLforever   Jan-13-08 12:18 AM   #77 
  - I am going to have hard time voting for Obama.  AX10   Jan-13-08 12:20 AM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-13-08 12:32 AM   #81 
  - Yes  MonkeyFunk   Jan-13-08 12:35 AM   #83 
  - My vote will go to whomever:  bvar22   Jan-13-08 01:29 AM   #84 
  - This is why a lot of kids troop over to Ron Paul who  Hardrada   Jan-13-08 02:27 AM   #85 
     - If more voters had a conscience,  bvar22   Jan-13-08 11:32 AM   #121 
     - Ron Paul is racist, sexist, homophobic, undemocratic-- shame on saying he's "on our side"  LostinVA   Jan-13-08 06:52 PM   #148 
        - I meant DK was on our side. Kucinich.  Hardrada   Jan-13-08 07:59 PM   #173 
  - You're not alone.  BringBigDogBack   Jan-13-08 02:58 AM   #86 
  - No, I made my decision two days ago.  Big Blue Marble   Jan-13-08 03:17 AM   #88 
  - I cannot bring myself to vote for her if she is the nominee.  loveangelc   Jan-13-08 03:33 AM   #90 
  - Republicans everwhere love your decision.  sellitman   Jan-13-08 12:55 PM   #124 
     - and you can think that. i'm still not going to vote for her.  loveangelc   Jan-13-08 07:29 PM   #163 
        - Very smart move!  sellitman   Jan-13-08 07:34 PM   #164 
           - you can be happy or you can be sad. it doesn't really matter to me what you think :-)  loveangelc   Jan-13-08 08:06 PM   #174 
  - Sure, it makes sense to act like the Republicans! That is just what is being done.  michaz   Jan-13-08 04:51 AM   #92 
  - personally, I'd have trouble voting for Clinton OR Obama . . .  OneBlueSky   Jan-13-08 05:03 AM   #93 
  - And The Proof That Obama Supporters Do Not Support The Party, Just Their Candidate  fightindonkey   Jan-13-08 05:08 AM   #95 
  - Oh well. They'll be leaving the party soon.  Perry Logan   Jan-13-08 05:26 AM   #97 
  - Very revealing...and very selfish!  indimuse   Jan-13-08 07:04 AM   #104 
     - Best post of the thread, although I'm sure you meant to post it to the OPer & not to Perry  mtnsnake   Jan-13-08 08:03 AM   #107 
  - why is always the conservative ones that do the odd "capitalize every word thing"?  Bonobo   Jan-13-08 10:07 AM   #112 
  - Don't worry, maybe Nader or Bloomberg will run  Jim4Wes   Jan-13-08 05:30 AM   #98 
  - I agree Jim  sellitman   Jan-13-08 07:40 PM   #165 
  - We all have issues, but Clinton is not a bad option - at all.  wiley   Jan-13-08 05:36 AM   #99 
  - The problem is that she's beholden to everybody who helped her win  dailykoff   Jan-13-08 07:08 AM   #105 
     - Vote rigging? You're promoting insanity  wiley   Jan-14-08 12:25 AM   #186 
  - no you will find many friends here.  MassDemm   Jan-13-08 08:05 AM   #108 
  - And, possibly a life partner as well.  goldcanyonaz   Jan-13-08 10:00 AM   #111 
  - I will not vote for her....nt  Nimrod2005   Jan-13-08 10:16 AM   #114 
  - I'm sure if she's the nominee I'll have a wide selection of candidates from which to choose  ToeBot   Jan-13-08 10:43 AM   #116 
  - I Said That After The Race Issue, Voting 3rd Party Would Be Next For Obamanuts, I Was Called Insane  fightindonkey   Jan-13-08 10:58 AM   #117 
  - You're in a small but vocal group  OzarkDem   Jan-13-08 10:59 AM   #118 
  - No, you're not the only one n/t  MissDeeds   Jan-13-08 11:15 AM   #119 
  - No. I will not vote for her.  freefall   Jan-13-08 11:23 AM   #120 
  - I won't have any trouble. I just mailed in my vote for her in our primary.  Miss Chybil   Jan-13-08 12:14 PM   #122 
  - Nope  ProudDad   Jan-13-08 12:18 PM   #123 
  - If I have to vote for a Republican  Mme. Defarge   Jan-13-08 01:24 PM   #127 
  - Nice! Mind if I borrow that?  Yael   Jan-13-08 02:36 PM   #134 
     - Pass it on!  Mme. Defarge   Jan-13-08 03:42 PM   #139 
  - No. I will have a very hard time. My issues with Hillary:  sparosnare   Jan-13-08 01:30 PM   #128 
  - Probably not by a long shot...  TankLV   Jan-13-08 01:36 PM   #129 
  - Better yet: loyal Democrats should throw the whiners out of the party.  oasis   Jan-13-08 01:38 PM   #130 
  - No need. I'll happily leave if Hillary is the nominee.  Meldread   Jan-13-08 02:21 PM   #131 
  - That's fine, and the Democrat Party will never win another election  martymar64   Jan-13-08 02:38 PM   #135 
  - Loyal democrats will vote the Dem ticket. Others are of no use to the party anyway.(eom)  oasis   Jan-13-08 07:24 PM   #161 
     - Loyal Democrats = Good Germans  martymar64   Jan-13-08 08:07 PM   #175 
  - If it weren't for the "whiners" Hillary would still be supporting Bush on Iraq  Gonnabuymeagun   Jan-13-08 06:59 PM   #151 
  - I have no trouble. I just won't do it.  bobbolink   Jan-13-08 02:22 PM   #132 
  - Why am I against my party if I don't vote for her?  marlakay   Jan-13-08 02:47 PM   #136 
  - You are not the only one  totodeinhere   Jan-13-08 02:50 PM   #137 
  - no you're not-- I will NOT vote for Senator Clinton....  mike_c   Jan-13-08 04:09 PM   #140 
  - sorry, i don't see the 'dirty tricks.' Hil isn't getting any dirtier than Obama. nt  VotesForWomen   Jan-13-08 04:31 PM   #141 
  - Hold nose, think of Supreme Court Appointments  kiranon   Jan-13-08 04:57 PM   #143 
  - I agree with you - Supreme Court judges WILL be nominated and confirmed by the next President  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-13-08 07:09 PM   #157 
  - nope.  stillrockin   Jan-13-08 06:01 PM   #144 
  - I WON'T Vote For Her, Period.  OhioChick   Jan-13-08 06:51 PM   #147 
  - I don't think you're the only  zidzi   Jan-13-08 06:55 PM   #150 
  - Bridge to Nowhere  rhyden77   Jan-13-08 06:59 PM   #152 
  - IF her campaign is guilty of dirty tricks, she'll be ready to use those tactics against  Qanisqineq   Jan-13-08 07:01 PM   #153 
  - That would open the floodgates to eight-plus years of stolen elections.  dailykoff   Jan-13-08 07:48 PM   #167 
     - I wasn't saying we ignore stolen elections  Qanisqineq   Jan-13-08 09:11 PM   #181 
  - Meanwhile the M$M keeps reminding people to 'look at the polls' - this is starting  Imagevision   Jan-13-08 07:10 PM   #158 
  - I'm with you now and to the end....  fadedrose   Jan-13-08 07:10 PM   #159 
  - I don't have trouble...I simply won't vote her...EOM  nostalgicaboutmyfutr   Jan-13-08 07:49 PM   #168 
  - No more Clintons/ No more Bushes  ZinZen   Jan-13-08 07:51 PM   #169 
  - She crossed the line for me. The smears and race baiting... just too much  Essene   Jan-13-08 07:58 PM   #171 
  - I'd lean against her in the general election. n/t  Infinite Hope   Jan-13-08 08:22 PM   #176 
  - In the end we'll all vote for Hillary...50 states remember.  ileus   Jan-13-08 08:23 PM   #177 
  - No trouble here. I simply won't do it. That goes for Obama, too. n/t  LWolf   Jan-13-08 08:29 PM   #178 
  - Whatever you do, don't stay at home  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-13-08 08:29 PM   #179 
  - No. I will hate it with every fibre of my being but I will do it.  MrSlayer   Jan-13-08 09:24 PM   #182 
 

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