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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:19 PM
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52. I'm beginning to agree with you, I liked him better as a statesman....
I hate him as a campaigner. Carl Bernstein is discussing this very thing on Thom Hartmann right now. He's saying that Bill has used comments made by Obama, and used them completely out of context, to try and stop Obama's momentum.

I'll be honest, I'm a southern African American male, and my heart has been with John & Elizabeth Edwards for a long time because I think they are sincere about wanting to help people who, for too long, have been disenfranchised. But Obama is beginning to look better and better to me.
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  -Oh God, what is Jesse Jackson Jr. Doing? hnmnf  Jan-09-08 11:48 AM   #0 
  - He is right.  JDPriestly   Jan-09-08 11:49 AM   #1 
  - But you dont say it out loud.  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 11:49 AM   #2 
  - Why not?  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:32 PM   #111 
  - No, he is wrong.  Missy M   Jan-09-08 11:49 AM   #3 
  - He's wrong, and he ain't helping Obama. n/t  calico1   Jan-09-08 12:24 PM   #60 
  - Absolutely he's right, and he's only saying  liberalhistorian   Jan-09-08 11:52 AM   #5 
  - He is right...  Tess99   Jan-09-08 11:57 AM   #13 
  - and not just Katrina. What about tears for those who died in Iraq or maimed for life?  mod mom   Jan-09-08 12:00 PM   #23 
  - He is absolutely correct.  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:34 PM   #113 
  - Clinton's actions on Katrina  rinsd   Jan-09-08 12:13 PM   #40 
  - Could you repost that link as a reply to the OP so more people will see it?  progressivebydesign   Jan-09-08 12:21 PM   #54 
  - Umm.. she a Senator from New York. Where exactly SHOULD she be???  progressivebydesign   Jan-09-08 12:17 PM   #48 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-09-08 12:09 PM   #33 
  - Oh shit... this is getting ugly real quick.  Katzenkavalier   Jan-09-08 11:50 AM   #4 
  - It sure is n/t  ailsagirl   Jan-09-08 12:07 PM   #27 
  - bad thing to say--no matter who said it or why  rodeodance   Jan-09-08 11:52 AM   #6 
  - Continuing to harp on the crying will only harm the Obama  cboy4   Jan-09-08 11:53 AM   #7 
  - Hillary's campaign is going to  ProSense   Jan-09-08 11:57 AM   #12 
     - It's called acting  ProudDad   Jan-09-08 11:59 AM   #20 
     - Bingo. It was the polar opposite of the Dean scream  RufusTFirefly   Jan-09-08 12:07 PM   #28 
  - this keeps up..the NH results will keep up  KennedyGuy   Jan-09-08 11:54 AM   #8 
  - Cocaine-gate anyone?  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:23 PM   #57 
     - piffle...  KennedyGuy   Jan-09-08 12:35 PM   #72 
        - The truth hurts.  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:50 PM   #82 
           - Not as much as loosing apparantly..HA!  KennedyGuy   Jan-09-08 02:26 PM   #124 
              - Has the kindergarten class been dismissed already??  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 02:30 PM   #125 
                 - took the swagger right outta your guy though, didn't it?  KennedyGuy   Jan-09-08 02:33 PM   #126 
                    - *laughs*  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 03:58 PM   #136 
  - JJ Jr's Mom isn't gonna like this......  SaveElmer   Jan-09-08 11:54 AM   #9 
  - Daddy would stand by him though.  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 11:56 AM   #11 
     - What kid isn't more afraid of their mother though?...nt  SaveElmer   Jan-09-08 11:58 AM   #17 
        - Um, Id be afraid of Daddy more  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 11:59 AM   #21 
           - no shit-- i heard jj back in 67-- wow!  madrchsod   Jan-09-08 12:55 PM   #86 
  - I missed that  sandnsea   Jan-09-08 11:56 AM   #10 
  - This will not backfire in SC or NV  Tess99   Jan-09-08 12:01 PM   #24 
     - Registration is open in NV  sandnsea   Jan-09-08 12:10 PM   # 
     - Very true  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:34 PM   #69 
        - You don't have to tell me  sandnsea   Jan-09-08 12:36 PM   #74 
     - Holla!!  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:28 PM   #65 
     - Then why has she done so well with lower-income women  LostinVA   Jan-09-08 01:19 PM   #99 
        - I have no clue.  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 01:47 PM   #122 
  - He better be careful  Indie Girl   Jan-09-08 11:58 AM   #14 
  - 39 - 36 =12?  Nailzberg   Jan-09-08 12:24 PM   #61 
     - I think that person meant the difference between the polls and the results (nt)  redqueen   Jan-09-08 01:15 PM   #94 
        - Polls don't count for anything.  Nailzberg   Jan-09-08 01:16 PM   #95 
           - Either way, I think your remark about education was shitty. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-09-08 01:17 PM   #97 
              - I dont. n/t  Nailzberg   Jan-09-08 01:19 PM   #100 
  - Agreed. Terrible move.  cali   Jan-09-08 11:58 AM   #15 
  - Can't Obama see that his surge is based on his NOT going negative?  Uncle Sinister   Jan-09-08 11:58 AM   #16 
  - I disagree...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 12:14 PM   #44 
  - Not as tacky as cocaine-gate  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:37 PM   #75 
  - It's not negative.  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:38 PM   #115 
  - I'm glad you sense that is a bad move....good for you.  suston96   Jan-09-08 11:59 AM   #18 
  - Obama will probably tell Jesse Jr. to STFU.  Katzenkavalier   Jan-09-08 12:08 PM   #31 
     - I hope so!  midlife_mo_Jo   Jan-09-08 02:39 PM   #128 
  - Bad move.  Little Star   Jan-09-08 11:59 AM   #19 
  - I agree, hnmnf, we don't need any more of the "pity" vote, so I'm going to say this here and not  K Gardner   Jan-09-08 11:59 AM   #22 
  - I think the crying was real  Tess99   Jan-09-08 12:07 PM   #29 
  - Too bad for Mitt  H2O Man   Jan-09-08 12:09 PM   #32 
  - Yeah, but he is still going for that gold. eom.  EV_Ares   Jan-09-08 12:27 PM   #64 
  - "probably on hormones"  LostinVA   Jan-09-08 01:22 PM   #102 
  - Yeah, but it's a losing battle  sandnsea   Jan-09-08 12:11 PM   #37 
     - I agree.  K Gardner   Jan-09-08 12:18 PM   #49 
  - Put it out there for consumption with black voters and leave the scene  BeyondGeography   Jan-09-08 12:04 PM   #25 
  - I dont think MSNBC's 200,000 or so viewers is the right place then, lol.  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 12:05 PM   #26 
  - The word will get out  BeyondGeography   Jan-09-08 12:08 PM   #30 
  - Amen!  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:40 PM   #117 
  - doesn't matter about msnbc's low viewership, when it hits the  Tarheel_Dem   Jan-09-08 12:10 PM   #35 
     - I used to defend Bill, now I dislike him more than her.  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 12:13 PM   #39 
     - I'm beginning to agree with you, I liked him better as a statesman....  Tarheel_Dem   Jan-09-08 12:19 PM   #52 
        - It all started with the roll of the dice comment...  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 12:21 PM   #55 
     - I'll be letting my blog readers, family and friends...  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:52 PM   #84 
        - No, not your blog readers!  AngryAmish   Jan-09-08 03:45 PM   #134 
           - Oh yeah, BABY!  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 04:38 PM   #138 
  - This will not backfire  Tess99   Jan-09-08 12:15 PM   #45 
  - Clinton's played the "race card" against Obama. Dream on.. n/t  progressivebydesign   Jan-09-08 12:16 PM   #46 
  - Obama may have sold drugs and MLK needed a white president to get things done  BeyondGeography   Jan-09-08 12:19 PM   #51 
  - Holla!  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:38 PM   #77 
  - Not to mention the madrassa story.  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:42 PM   #118 
  - They suggested he was a teenage drug dealer.  Tess99   Jan-09-08 12:24 PM   #59 
  - Yes...  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:45 PM   #79 
  - Her campaign surely did.  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:50 PM   #81 
  - So much for the 'unity candidate'.  1corona4u   Jan-09-08 01:29 PM   #109 
  - The Corporate Elites  femrap   Jan-09-08 12:10 PM   #34 
  - No, it was the Clintons who decided  Tess99   Jan-09-08 12:20 PM   #53 
     - I didn't read that...  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 12:54 PM   #85 
     - Of course they don't -- they been spamming the threads with posts like this  LostinVA   Jan-09-08 01:27 PM   #108 
     - You have bought the  femrap   Jan-09-08 02:37 PM   #127 
        - Oh, please. Steinem is a racist  Tess99   Jan-09-08 02:59 PM   #130 
           - One thing....  moriah   Jan-09-08 05:38 PM   #140 
           - Remember what  femrap   Jan-09-08 11:17 PM   #142 
           - You are unbelievably ignorant about Steinem.  DURHAM D   Jan-09-08 11:24 PM   #144 
  - Please, please...I want to see more Jesse Jackson in Obama's campaign...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 12:11 PM   #36 
  - Was that Jesse Jackson Jr. or Jesse Jackson? n/t  ProSense   Jan-09-08 12:14 PM   #43 
  - My mistake...I mis~read the OP and thought it referred to Sr. not Jr....  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 12:21 PM   #56 
  - self-delete..........  Tarheel_Dem   Jan-09-08 12:23 PM   #58 
     - ...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 12:26 PM   #62 
        - you were so anxious to get a jab in at Jesse, Sr that you didn't  Tarheel_Dem   Jan-09-08 12:30 PM   #67 
           - And I apologized for it. You were equally so anxious to squawk, you too failed to read...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 12:33 PM   #68 
  - I would be concerned if it where Obama himself.  Dawgs   Jan-09-08 12:12 PM   #38 
  - I would rather they focus on the "fairy tale" remark from Bill with black voters.  Dawgs   Jan-09-08 12:14 PM   #41 
  - To assume that black voters will vote for someone just because they're black..  progressivebydesign   Jan-09-08 12:14 PM   #42 
  - Although I whole-heartedly agree  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 01:12 PM   #92 
  - He's hurting Obama. that's what. Of all the legit things to attack Hillary with...see:  robbedvoter   Jan-09-08 12:16 PM   #47 
  - Peddling your anti-Hillary stuff all over this morning.. yawn.. n/t  progressivebydesign   Jan-09-08 12:19 PM   #50 
  - So what is wrong with him being interviewed and what he said. He is no  EV_Ares   Jan-09-08 12:26 PM   #63 
  - Jesse Jackson, Jr., is spot on, HRC cried selfishly - about her fatigue/looks, NOT about the poor ..  ShortnFiery   Jan-09-08 12:29 PM   #66 
  - About her looks?  Skip Intro   Jan-09-08 12:37 PM   #76 
  - ... she SAID it: "This is personal" ...  Myrina   Jan-09-08 12:43 PM   #78 
  - Preach!  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 01:35 PM   #114 
  - How do you know she has never cried for limbless, homeless, etc?  jasmine621   Jan-09-08 03:44 PM   #133 
  - Wow, you're saying she was crying over her "looks" that's pretty fucked up.  readmoreoften   Jan-09-08 01:17 PM   #96 
  - Pick your battles wisely, I say  WesDem   Jan-09-08 12:34 PM   #70 
  - What an effin' moronic thing to say.  Skip Intro   Jan-09-08 12:35 PM   #71 
  - I first felt the same way, but he's just playing hardball like she and Bill have been doing lately.  jenmito   Jan-09-08 12:35 PM   #73 
  - NO ONE has done disaster relief better than the Clinton administration.  NCarolinawoman   Jan-09-08 12:50 PM   #80 
  - I lived in Wilmington through Bertha and Fran -- you're right on target!  LostinVA   Jan-09-08 01:25 PM   #104 
  - trying to make himself relevant  madrchsod   Jan-09-08 12:51 PM   #83 
  - This Thread Is So Sad...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-09-08 01:01 PM   #87 
  - The Clintons racialized this weeks ago.  Tess99   Jan-09-08 01:11 PM   #91 
  - *yawn*  LostinVA   Jan-09-08 01:26 PM   #105 
  - Even if she wins the nomination, do you think HRC (or any Dem)  Tarheel_Dem   Jan-09-08 03:36 PM   #131 
  - Yep!  Nedsdag   Jan-09-08 01:46 PM   #121 
  - Tell your friends...  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 01:20 PM   #101 
     - They Can't Make Up Their Mind...  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-09-08 01:39 PM   #116 
  - lol  Jim4Wes   Jan-09-08 01:03 PM   #88 
  - Since Jackson Jr. doesn't have an official role in the campaign, Obama can't control him.  Connie_Corleone   Jan-09-08 01:05 PM   #89 
  - He's the National Campaign Co-Chair.  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 01:25 PM   #103 
     - Yeah, I found out. I was thinking about his father, not the son.  Connie_Corleone   Jan-09-08 02:48 PM   #129 
  - Did you miss the press conference with Bush when  Skwmom   Jan-09-08 01:06 PM   #90 
  - I think  Jim4Wes   Jan-09-08 01:26 PM   #106 
  - Thank you, thank you!  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 02:21 PM   #123 
  - I don't think she stopped vacationing in Hawaii during Katrina  951-Riverside   Jan-09-08 01:13 PM   #93 
  - America OWES more tears over Katrina - Better yet, some damn help.  AtomicKitten   Jan-09-08 01:19 PM   #98 
  - Well..  DivorcingNeo   Jan-09-08 01:29 PM   #110 
     - There is much crap floating around on the airwaves.  AtomicKitten   Jan-09-08 01:32 PM   #112 
  - The answer is simple Mr. Jackson  ORDem   Jan-09-08 01:27 PM   #107 
  - Maybe there will be a Jesse J. Jr. And McClurkin reunion tour in SC?  Politicub   Jan-09-08 01:42 PM   #119 
  - I Said The Same Thing About Our Soldiers and Iraqi Civilians  DrFunkenstein   Jan-09-08 01:42 PM   #120 
  - An awful lot of really lightweight Dems on this board attacking Hillary...  hayu_lol   Jan-09-08 03:41 PM   #132 
  - Obama Is Going To Continue To Sink, Just As When They Blamed Hillary For Bhutto's Death  fightindonkey   Jan-09-08 03:54 PM   #135 
  - Hillary spin-meisters CLAIMED that he blamed her...  magatte   Jan-09-08 04:02 PM   #137 
  - The Obama campaign must be panicking  jackson_dem   Jan-09-08 04:48 PM   #139 
  - Since when is Obama responsible for what he says? nt  calteacherguy   Jan-09-08 06:01 PM   #141 
     - He is the national campaign co-chair  hnmnf   Jan-09-08 11:18 PM   #143 
 

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