Fredda Weinberg
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:43 PM
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| 138. You may not follow, but there was reason that led from one |
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observation to the other. Bigotry in this case is in the eye of the beholder - because it was Dyson who mentioned Africans seeing Obama as one of their own. It may seen natural to you, but I come from a tribal society ... so my perception to such a remark would be different.
What does a need for attention mean? What do you think? It has nothing to do with race ... that's for sure.
The post started w/an observation of a child's innocent behavior. It made me wonder about the more guarded behavior of the adults ... but I hadn't yet seen Michelle's performance. Thinking back to Oprah's involvement, which concerns me because of, frankly, the question of whether this media giant - who gives away automobiles to her audience - would have campaigned for someone who wasn't African American. Dyson's use of the word "tribe" as loosely as he did carried other implications straight out of today's headlines.
Now, that these ideas came together in my mind for a question about this new Camelot-like scene is my personal thought process, which I've explained as clearly as I can. If it's still incoherent to you, I apologize for not communicating more clearly. But there's nothing bigoted or prejudice ... it's the exact opposite: I'm responding to what I'm actually noticing, not what I bring from my personal history.
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| -Did anyone else catch Michelle Obama's dance at the end of Barak's concession? |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 04:20 AM |
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Then why post about it ?[ I thought you were still on Will Pitt's Book tour?] |
GalleryGod |
Jan-09-08 04:24 AM |
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My mother's dead ... don't need to do PR anymore. Send my regards |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 04:32 AM |
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you must be incredibly insecure to repeatedly |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:41 AM |
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Bragging? I was responding to a personal attack ... but it backfired. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:58 AM |
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Put you on ignore? |
cali |
Jan-09-08 09:07 AM |
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don't forget, Fred marched in the streets for Hillary...In the Streets! |
JackORoses |
Jan-09-08 10:28 AM |
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Indeed. But I also campaigned around Brooklyn for Mario Cuomo |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 12:48 PM |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Jan-09-08 05:41 PM |
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You're really weird |
DS1 |
Jan-09-08 11:00 AM |
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yes, yes she is |
sniffa |
Jan-09-08 05:34 PM |
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Isn't Bush a Harvard graduate? |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-09-08 04:33 AM |
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Not Harvard Law. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-09-08 04:41 AM |
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You rock! |
zidzi |
Jan-09-08 09:05 AM |
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Yale undergraduate |
in search of sanity |
Jan-09-08 06:40 AM |
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hmmm, after that thread you made attacking his daughters |
JI7 |
Jan-09-08 04:45 AM |
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Where did I attack children? I dare you to back up that libel. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:22 AM |
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LOL!! Libel it isn't. |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:51 AM |
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No link? No quote? Just your opinion. Gotcha, cali |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:10 AM |
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so everyone can make their own minds up: link |
onenote |
Jan-09-08 09:26 AM |
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That confirmed it. Thanks. Here is a direct quote of her opening line from that OP. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 09:31 AM |
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Disgusted by what? A need for approval? Even out of context, what's |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:26 AM |
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Disgusted by you bringing children into it. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 10:29 AM |
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Fredda, you were putting down a six-year-old and a nine-year-old!!!??!!! |
Lefty-Taylor |
Jan-09-08 10:29 AM |
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Putting down a 6 year old for being cute? That's your imagination |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:53 AM |
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I missed the cute part on this one. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 02:01 PM |
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No wrong with YOU criticizing them |
karynnj |
Jan-09-08 10:44 AM |
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But what was the criticism? Seriously, the kids were cute, but |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:51 AM |
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Your point was incomprehensible. Make it again. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 10:58 AM |
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Sorry, but it sounded negative to me and others |
karynnj |
Jan-09-08 11:00 AM |
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Oh, for Pete's sake. Of course they belonged there. Where did |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 11:43 AM |
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Wow! |
EffieBlack |
Jan-09-08 10:17 AM |
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Wow what? I'm curious what you find offensive n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:27 AM |
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wow, what a freak |
DS1 |
Jan-09-08 11:02 AM |
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here's your revolting, bigoted quote |
cali |
Jan-09-08 10:10 AM |
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It's hard for me to call it bigotted. |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 10:27 AM |
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It wasn't about ethinicity, so it's hardly bigoted. It was about a show family |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:29 AM |
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Explain to me the point you're trying to make if any, seriuosly. n/t |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 10:33 AM |
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Seriously ... I want innoculate us from show biz influences by |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 11:02 AM |
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No, let me try again. I was responding to the thing about his kids |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 11:10 AM |
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You may not follow, but there was reason that led from one |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 12:43 PM |
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Is Rupert Murdoch holding fundraisers for Hillary Clinton |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 01:02 PM |
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Nothing to fix. My observations were my own, even if you don't |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 01:52 PM |
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I just want you to know that as I'm typing this |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 01:58 PM |
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You're right. It is pseudo-intellectual rubbish. Too much Derrida or something. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 10:30 AM |
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You might be on to something. One minute is the kids did this then Michael Eric Dyson ....what....? |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 10:35 AM |
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Dyson used the word "tribe", which may not bother you, but around |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 11:04 AM |
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What does it have to do with the rest of your post. Plus who fucking |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 11:16 AM |
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First of all, a civil tongue would be appropriate. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 12:47 PM |
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Sharing observations would be one thing. Going on and on |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 01:11 PM |
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Good thing I don't share your hostility. I'm not shocked at all. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 01:49 PM |
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Which standards are being violated again? |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jan-09-08 01:54 PM |
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Please don't think your rhetoric |
DivorcingNeo |
Jan-09-08 12:15 PM |
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I didn't. |
crikkett |
Jan-09-08 05:03 AM |
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I can only call it a dance ... while pointing with both hands over her |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:24 AM |
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Wow, now you can read minds. Oh, Fredda, could it be something "ethnic" that operatives can take to |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 08:42 AM |
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I described what I saw ... were your impressions different? If so, please |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:44 AM |
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Since you're into touting credentials, I can say with confidence ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 08:56 AM |
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Ah, this response has potential. If you're sincere, then yes, of course |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:07 AM |
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Jan-09-08 09:18 AM |
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Oh well. You think I'm white ... thanks, but no thanks. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:13 AM |
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what about Gore's big kiss with Tipper? |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:56 AM |
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Sounds like you just have a problem with black people |
EffieBlack |
Jan-09-08 10:18 AM |
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Ah, the race card ... nope, you don't know anything about me. |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 11:06 AM |
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She might have been a little tipsy and/or happy the day was over. |
crikkett |
Jan-09-08 01:16 PM |
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*snicker* |
cali |
Jan-09-08 06:43 AM |
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Ah, but I'm not mean and vicious ... honestly, you wanted Hillary to suffer |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:26 AM |
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No. I certainly didn't. |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:43 AM |
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I'm no Cali fan. But she certainly has been fair to Clinton. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:53 AM |
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I've posted the quote and link to where she wanted Hillary to suffer |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:11 AM |
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Distortion? This is fun ... you're playing personal, but that's fine |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:54 AM |
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um, I was wrong, What does that have to do with anything. |
cali |
Jan-09-08 09:02 AM |
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You're imagining that I'm attacking Obama. I would never deliberately |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:11 AM |
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Blech, that post made me ill... cloyingly smug and self-congratulatory. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 10:14 AM |
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do you expect any less? |
sniffa |
Jan-09-08 05:39 PM |
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oh my... self-important much? and you think you're soooo very clever. |
dionysus |
Jan-09-08 06:04 PM |
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Yes, cali you have been fair about Clinton...I noticed! |
Auntie Bush |
Jan-09-08 09:17 AM |
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I think it was cute. I adore Michelle Obama. She's the next woman I'd like to see run! |
youthere |
Jan-09-08 08:31 AM |
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Michelle does have great moves. Personally, I enjoyed it |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:43 AM |
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You enjoyed it? I thought you had no comment. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:47 AM |
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Someone asked. And I wanted to get others' reactions first ... it was noticeable |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:00 AM |
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Didn't notice it. |
youthere |
Jan-09-08 11:07 AM |
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*cough*bullshit*cough* |
dionysus |
Jan-09-08 06:05 PM |
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"cute" is a factor in choosing a femal candidate? n/t |
progressivebydesign |
Jan-09-08 11:56 AM |
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Yeah...that was the "deciding" factor. |
youthere |
Jan-09-08 12:08 PM |
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That's not reserving comment. That's making a snide, passive aggressive insinuation. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:33 AM |
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not the first thread along those lines by the poster |
burythehatchet |
Jan-09-08 08:34 AM |
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Jan-09-08 08:38 AM |
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Racist? Mispelling my name? Sound like I should avoid you and |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:01 AM |
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Yeah, people like you should avoid those who actually fight back against crap like this. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 09:20 AM |
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Nor the last.. |
zidzi |
Jan-09-08 09:15 AM |
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It is indeed |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-09-08 08:37 AM |
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something the |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:44 AM |
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How silly ... this is a message board. I described a public scene |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:46 AM |
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I guess you shall not mind if I keep firing my "blunt" bullets. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:50 AM |
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Douchenozzle of the Day |
BlueDogDemocratNH |
Jan-09-08 08:42 AM |
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I'll second that. n/t |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:45 AM |
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ROFL - Damn you! |
Jersey Devil |
Jan-09-08 08:53 AM |
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I nominiate this for "The Most Petty Thread Topic EVER!" eom |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 09:01 AM |
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Did I ever call it profound? My, we are sensitive today n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:12 AM |
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How is that an insult? Young males spend 99% of their time trying be where that goes! |
Didereaux |
Jan-09-08 11:49 AM |
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Dance Michelle! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-09-08 08:44 AM |
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OMG! The licentiousness! |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:46 AM |
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You know how the Negroes do |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-09-08 08:59 AM |
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Yeah, Bobby Kennedy |
zidzi |
Jan-09-08 09:17 AM |
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Maybe the Obamas could go on tour ... like the Osmonds n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:14 AM |
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Perhaps she should have cried.... |
vi5 |
Jan-09-08 08:46 AM |
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But did you see Barak's scowl? Honestly, I was simply entertained |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:47 AM |
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So now you were "entertained" by the "scowl"? Please don't stop now! |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:48 AM |
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Michelle was fun to watch. Barak was not. Sorry if I wasn't clear n/t |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 08:58 AM |
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Don't worry. You are clearer than you think, or should I say "transparent"? |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:59 AM |
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Oh, kindly give this smarmy attempt at a "whisper campaign" a well needed REST. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 08:51 AM |
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How can you whisper with your own real name? I described what |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:05 AM |
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Not one other person is fine with it. |
cali |
Jan-09-08 09:08 AM |
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Well, seriously then he needs to get with the program... |
vi5 |
Jan-09-08 08:53 AM |
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sure you were. |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:54 AM |
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Kick for visibility. This is what racism in "liberal" communities looks like. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 08:56 AM |
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considering |
cali |
Jan-09-08 08:58 AM |
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I think with "Didja catch that colored woman dancing" thread it's moved from |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-09-08 09:00 AM |
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Damn well put a_m ! They don't even know that they are harboring covert stereotypes which if not |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 09:08 AM |
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Actually, the only offensive language was yours. Mine was |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:16 AM |
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Your post is beneath contempt |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-09-08 09:18 AM |
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really? |
cali |
Jan-09-08 10:26 AM |
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unless you consider short, squat and white as snow to be in that category |
sniffa |
Jan-09-08 05:43 PM |
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You're not what whites consider white? Did you poll them all to come to that conclusion? |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-10-08 01:06 AM |
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What happened? |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-09-08 08:48 AM |
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At the end of the concession speech, Michelle did a cheer for the |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:04 AM |
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Is this one of those DUzy posts? |
WesDem |
Jan-09-08 08:52 AM |
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No shit...what a fucking stupid thread... |
truebrit71 |
Jan-09-08 09:11 AM |
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I take it you have no clue what I'm talking about, don't care and wouldn't |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:13 AM |
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In the same vein is this f*cking stupid thread "I'll reserve comment". |
truebrit71 |
Jan-09-08 09:39 AM |
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More like a DON'Tzy. |
No Surrender |
Jan-09-08 09:13 AM |
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I wish it was. But I guess you missed the scowl ... well, if I'm right |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 09:17 AM |
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heh |
Indie Girl |
Jan-09-08 09:21 AM |
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Nice tangental personality attack and extrapolation into the absurd ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 09:41 AM |
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I enjoyed Edwards' phrase, "It's my privilege to be here" |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:07 AM |
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Congratulations on a dishonest post and on the company |
cali |
Jan-09-08 10:48 AM |
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I'm loving this thread. Kick. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 09:19 AM |
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I'm actually having more of a love/hate thing with it |
cali |
Jan-09-08 09:59 AM |
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Whatsa matter, don't want to talk about the dancing anymore? |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 09:36 AM |
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I will take your silence as an admission that you fucked up badly starting this thread. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 09:48 AM |
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Actually, I've got an intern coming in ... I started this thread hours ago |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 10:05 AM |
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Oooh, an "intern"!!! Wow, did he/she get recruited by IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS too? |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 10:11 AM |
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bwahahaha |
cali |
Jan-09-08 10:28 AM |
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Kick it! |
GalleryGod |
Jan-09-08 10:40 AM |
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No, Fredda may have rushed off to a Wedding Reception where everyone there "dances WHITE." |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 10:42 AM |
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No scowling black men either |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-09-08 11:03 AM |
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The office is in Pace University. Close enuf? |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-09-08 11:14 AM |
#124 |
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So what are these students supposed to learn from you? I hope it's not how to write clearly. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 11:34 AM |
#126 |
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Perhaps they've learned how to bullshit their way through an essay test |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-10-08 01:36 AM |
#158 |
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Keep those blinders secured! |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-09-08 11:37 AM |
#127 |
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Ignored |
Marie26 |
Jan-09-08 11:08 AM |
#122 |
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First the post about the Obama kids and now this? |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-09-08 11:48 AM |
#129 |
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I thought it was charming and human... |
LanternWaste |
Jan-09-08 12:05 PM |
#132 |
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I'm sorry that the scary black man frightened you with his "scowl". |
Blue-Jay |
Jan-09-08 12:11 PM |
#134 |
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LOL |
dionysus |
Jan-09-08 06:07 PM |
#155 |
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I'll give you the same advice I give my daughter. |
Bonobo |
Jan-09-08 12:18 PM |
#136 |
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I've seen Michelle up close and she is a fox |
zulchzulu |
Jan-09-08 12:21 PM |
#137 |
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Leave it to the Kwazy OP To have most flame and zero Recs |
Moochy |
Jan-10-08 12:19 AM |
#156 |
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