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21. I disagree with the premise that John Kerry was a good wartime candidate.
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  -Can Barack Obama be as good a wartime candidate as John Kerry was? mtnsnake  Jan-08-08 12:18 PM   #0 
  - Is that damning with faint praise?  redqueen   Jan-08-08 12:19 PM   #1 
  - It's getting better all the time (can't get much worse)  Occam Bandage   Jan-08-08 12:20 PM   #2 
  - Who are we at war with and why?  wuushew   Jan-08-08 12:21 PM   #3 
  - Maybe you didn't notice, but Kerry loss in 2004 by a wide margin  aein   Jan-08-08 12:21 PM   #4 
  - 3% is what you call a wide margin?  The Night Owl   Jan-08-08 12:23 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, he loss after 4 terrible years of Bush, and after Gore won the popular vote...we should've...  aein   Jan-08-08 03:05 PM   #45 
     - This ignores the reality in the country  karynnj   Jan-08-08 03:31 PM   #46 
        - I concede that you're right, and that I...  aein   Jan-08-08 04:34 PM   #48 
           - I'm impressed by you saying this  karynnj   Jan-08-08 05:41 PM   #49 
  - Wide margin?  redqueen   Jan-08-08 12:30 PM   #16 
  - Given all the bad things you have written on Kerry, this is as disingenuous as it comes.  Mass   Jan-08-08 12:23 PM   #5 
  - I've almost always praised Kerry the person. I've only criticized some of his campaign policies  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 12:24 PM   #7 
     - Anyway, thank you to give the DUers another opportunity to bash Kerry.  Mass   Jan-08-08 12:25 PM   #8 
     - What?  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 12:29 PM   #14 
     - John has been a friend for many years.  GalleryGod   Jan-08-08 01:42 PM   #40 
     - That is very cool  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 01:46 PM   #41 
     - Cool! Were you one of the ones out there defending him? n/t  ProSense   Jan-08-08 02:01 PM   #42 
     - He gave the media all they needed to know that the SBVT were liars  karynnj   Jan-08-08 05:52 PM   #50 
     - After 2008, Kerry's campaign may be seen in a better light  karynnj   Jan-08-08 03:32 PM   #47 
  - Much better  cali   Jan-08-08 12:25 PM   #9 
  - Much better as a wartime candidate? How so?  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 12:27 PM   #10 
  - It is different times, you're right . I beg to differ on much better.  Mass   Jan-08-08 12:27 PM   #11 
     - I like and admire Kerry enormously but I thought from the get go  cali   Jan-08-08 12:34 PM   #24 
  - I'm looking forward to Obama being a peacetime President.  Skidmore   Jan-08-08 12:27 PM   #12 
  - Trouble is, he's not going to be a peacetime candidate  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 12:32 PM   #20 
     - We'll see. I believe he is speaking to a nation weary of war, division,  Skidmore   Jan-08-08 12:35 PM   #25 
  - Kerry: If I knew then, what I know now, I'd have still voted for IWR" (Edwards inspired)  robbedvoter   Jan-08-08 12:28 PM   #13 
  - I don't want a "wartime candidate"  maximusveritas   Jan-08-08 12:30 PM   #15 
  - I disagree with the premise  Egnever   Jan-08-08 12:30 PM   #17 
  - Rather have a peacetime candidate myself......  Desertrose   Jan-08-08 12:30 PM   #18 
  - People are sick of this stupid fucking war  killbotfactory   Jan-08-08 12:31 PM   #19 
  - I disagree with the premise that John Kerry was a good wartime candidate.  Political Heretic   Jan-08-08 12:34 PM   #21 
  - I just hope Obama will be able to do what a President Kerry would have done.  Mass   Jan-08-08 12:34 PM   #22 
  - Considering there's no war, who needs a war time candidate?  Kucinich4America   Jan-08-08 12:34 PM   #23 
  - ...  cmaff05   Jan-08-08 12:38 PM   #26 
  - This time, it's not as much about being in the war as getting out of it.  rucky   Jan-08-08 12:42 PM   #27 
  - Which was of course what Kerry/Feingold was all about  karynnj   Jan-08-08 05:57 PM   #52 
  - Hell no  jackson_dem   Jan-08-08 12:43 PM   #28 
  - Only a phony war needs a phony wartime president. Someone to kick republican' ass is what's needed.  rug   Jan-08-08 12:45 PM   #29 
  - it depends on who the Republican nominee is.  paulk   Jan-08-08 01:00 PM   #30 
  - Yes, McCain is my biggest worry by far, too. If it's him against Obama, we're fucked  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 01:18 PM   #34 
     - Obama will run against him in an Adidas Track Suit (LOL)  GalleryGod   Jan-08-08 01:39 PM   #39 
  - What war?  burythehatchet   Jan-08-08 01:01 PM   #31 
  - Well, it would be hard to be worse.  Zynx   Jan-08-08 01:02 PM   #32 
  - In today's climate, yes.  ginnyinWI   Jan-08-08 01:07 PM   #33 
  - it really depends more on what happens between now and  paulk   Jan-08-08 02:03 PM   #43 
  - How could he do worse? n/t  ermoore   Jan-08-08 01:32 PM   #35 
  - Yes. Obama voted against IWR and now everyone wants out of Iraq.  Alexander   Jan-08-08 01:34 PM   #36 
  - Obama didn't vote on IWR at all.  whometense   Jan-08-08 01:36 PM   #37 
  - Probably a better candidate from my perspective.  GalleryGod   Jan-08-08 01:38 PM   #38 
  - Bush and Cheney destroyed Iraq. The good thing is neither of them is running. It's  ProSense   Jan-08-08 02:05 PM   #44 
  - DU wants a "Good War-Time Candidate"?  matcom   Jan-08-08 05:56 PM   #51 
  - I suppose you think we're gonna be spending our time in Iraq this year playing hopscotch  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 06:01 PM   #54 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-08-08 06:03 PM   #56 
  - He will do better than Kerry, he will win.  TheUniverse   Jan-08-08 05:57 PM   #53 
  - No, but he not up against an incumbent "war president"  jlake   Jan-08-08 06:02 PM   #55 
  - Newsflash! We are NOT at war - we occupy two countries and need to ...  ShortnFiery   Jan-08-08 06:06 PM   #57 
  - Is this a trick question?  NoPasaran   Jan-08-08 06:08 PM   #58 
  - lol, no!  mtnsnake   Jan-08-08 07:01 PM   #59 
  - Absolutely not. Sen. kerry has war time service experience that gives him a unique perspective  wisteria   Jan-08-08 10:43 PM   #60 

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