jenmito
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Tue Jan-08-08 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 50. Lots of smart people WEREN'T fooled. And others voted for it for political reasons. |
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Obama spoke out clearly against it. And like I said, he sponsored the Iraq De-escalation Act.
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| -I was leaning Edwards, but I'm voting Obama. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 11:33 AM |
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hahahahahahaha..yeah right. eom |
flyarm |
Jan-08-08 11:35 AM |
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I resent what you're insinuating. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 11:47 AM |
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Do you have anything useful to say. Like, you know, defending your candidate? |
aein |
Jan-08-08 12:13 PM |
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Well tell us how progressive Obama record is |
surfermaw |
Jan-08-08 02:21 PM |
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"only one that can defeat any candidate thrown at him" |
krkaufman |
Jan-08-08 06:57 PM |
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Do what you must |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-08-08 11:35 AM |
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Almost every Senate Democrat has voted to fund it. Even people who voted against the original... |
aein |
Jan-08-08 12:16 PM |
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It doesn't matter what everyone else did. MOST everyone else voted for the IWR |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-08-08 12:20 PM |
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Apples and oranges. Dealing with the mess the pro-war people voted for is totally different |
jenmito |
Jan-08-08 12:41 PM |
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Actually it isn't |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-08-08 12:44 PM |
#48 |
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Lots of smart people WEREN'T fooled. And others voted for it for political reasons. |
jenmito |
Jan-08-08 12:48 PM |
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Where is the progress on that? n/t |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-08-08 12:53 PM |
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He TRIED. Would you ask where the progress was if he had voted against the K/L amendment? |
jenmito |
Jan-08-08 02:27 PM |
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Why get all huffy about asking the progress of something that I have seen the Obaman's tout |
Horse with no Name |
Jan-08-08 06:39 PM |
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You go horse |
surfermaw |
Jan-08-08 02:24 PM |
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nobody was fucking fooled |
GreenArrow |
Jan-08-08 06:31 PM |
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Hey, I'm an Edwards fan ... |
krkaufman |
Jan-08-08 07:00 PM |
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The heroes: |
ellisonz |
Jan-08-08 02:14 PM |
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Edwards re-invented himself. Obama is who he always was--that's why I'm |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-08-08 11:36 AM |
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"Reinvented" were you one of the ones who tarred Gore with that phrase? |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 11:40 AM |
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Uh...no. I wasn't a big Gore fan, though, for other reasons--but I did vote for him. |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-08-08 11:53 AM |
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Obama voted for the bankruptcy bill |
LisaM |
Jan-08-08 11:40 AM |
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That's just not true. He voted against it n/t |
maximusveritas |
Jan-08-08 11:42 AM |
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Excuse me. I heard it on the radio this morning, but you are correct |
LisaM |
Jan-08-08 11:47 AM |
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"Obama is who he always was... ." |
Benhurst |
Jan-08-08 12:21 PM |
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You're comparing Edwards (and Hillary) with Romney in defense of "re-inventing" oneself? |
jenmito |
Jan-08-08 12:45 PM |
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To boldly reinvent where no man has gone before, is a bit much, and |
Benhurst |
Jan-08-08 02:57 PM |
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You're the one who named Romney as someone who has "evolved." |
jenmito |
Jan-08-08 06:08 PM |
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Obama's voting record is at times politically convenient. |
Benhurst |
Jan-09-08 07:49 AM |
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And you're holding that against him? |
ellisonz |
Jan-08-08 02:20 PM |
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Whose holding it against him? |
Benhurst |
Jan-08-08 02:46 PM |
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Obama has voted for Iraq War since getting to Senate. He is only antiwar when making speeches. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 11:39 AM |
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bullfuckingshit. |
cali |
Jan-08-08 11:42 AM |
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You're right that he didn't vote for the bill, BUT... |
redqueen |
Jan-08-08 11:49 AM |
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Apologize. Obama is the BSer not me: Read it and Weep: Obama defends war vote |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 12:19 PM |
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Not. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 11:49 AM |
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Yes he has. |
AX10 |
Jan-08-08 11:54 AM |
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Obama won't be able to deliver either... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jan-08-08 11:40 AM |
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Yes, he will be accountable to his half a million individual donors |
killbotfactory |
Jan-08-08 11:44 AM |
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47,643 actually, not half a million |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jan-08-08 11:58 AM |
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351,000 as of october I am sure its much higher now but way to get it wrong |
Egnever |
Jan-08-08 12:24 PM |
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opensecrets.org is where I got that info |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jan-08-08 12:48 PM |
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You didnt even do the math |
Egnever |
Jan-08-08 12:50 PM |
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He will be accountable to his big money donors. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 12:32 PM |
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How do you feel about Obama voting yes to continue funding the war? And how |
Ninga |
Jan-08-08 11:40 AM |
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Every Senate Democrat has voted for funding |
maximusveritas |
Jan-08-08 11:48 AM |
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Lame. Obama has voted for all the legislation aimed at getting us out of Iraq |
cali |
Jan-08-08 11:48 AM |
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He didn't step up to the podium and give a speech to like or dislike, and so what |
Ninga |
Jan-08-08 11:54 AM |
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Obama voted for the funding to keep us there but he doesn't tell his supporters. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 12:34 PM |
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Not great. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 11:52 AM |
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dupe - sorry |
Ninga |
Jan-08-08 11:55 AM |
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what has he led on as a Senator????? |
Ninga |
Jan-08-08 11:55 AM |
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I don't think that Obama has done anything "brave" or shown any leadership on Iraq |
peacebird |
Jan-08-08 11:43 AM |
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Obama never voted on Iraq. |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-08-08 11:55 AM |
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I didn't - I told you I didn't think he had shown any bravery or leadership.... |
peacebird |
Jan-08-08 12:07 PM |
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Yes...because bogus, cherry picked intel... |
ellisonz |
Jan-08-08 02:24 PM |
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I was leaning Edwards, and I caucused for Obama... |
TwoSparkles |
Jan-08-08 11:43 AM |
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Thanks, and you're right! |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-08-08 11:44 AM |
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Actually, Edwards is the only candidate that beats |
VenusRising |
Jan-08-08 01:14 PM |
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Absolutely how I feel, on every single point. Thanks for putting it so |
moc |
Jan-08-08 11:50 AM |
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Very good |
WesDem |
Jan-08-08 11:50 AM |
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But |
krabigirl |
Jan-08-08 11:55 AM |
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His opposition was on the record in 2002. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 12:00 PM |
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Maybe because Edwards was in the Senate then, as soon as obama got in the Senate he voted pro war. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 12:36 PM |
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Not true. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 12:55 PM |
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For the same reason Obama has lacked courage on Iraq votes since getting to senate? |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 01:12 PM |
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not so. All of the senators who voted against the war |
cali |
Jan-08-08 02:23 PM |
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My issue with Obama as candidate is he highlights antiwar stance before he had to vote on it |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:53 PM |
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One didn't have to be in the senate to make their views heard on |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-08-08 12:01 PM |
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If I wasn't supporting Clinton, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-08-08 11:59 AM |
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This is exactly how I feel. |
aein |
Jan-08-08 12:12 PM |
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No president will ever be more progressive than their rhetoric. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-08-08 12:27 PM |
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vote for someone who's going to correct the mistake he made |
GreenArrow |
Jan-08-08 06:37 PM |
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Edwards doesn't swing with |
frogmarch |
Jan-08-08 12:41 PM |
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I disagree. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 01:01 PM |
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I would think running to the center and giving few specifics is winning strategy in America. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 01:14 PM |
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So far so good. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 01:19 PM |
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But he sure isn't running to the center or pandering to corporations. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 01:29 PM |
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Because he knows he can't. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 01:53 PM |
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Obama is running to the center. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:03 PM |
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Good move on his part. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 02:05 PM |
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Uh he is voting as Bush requested --for war. He's ceding ground to the right on |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:14 PM |
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You're right about SS, wrong about the war. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 02:17 PM |
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What would you want him to do re social security ? (I'd like to keep writing to his campaign on this |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:29 PM |
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I like to see how people evolve. Obama was against the war, now he is for it. Edwards was for the |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:06 PM |
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Obama has worked consistently in the Senate to tie funding to withdrawal. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 02:11 PM |
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But he voted for the Bush appropriation request for the war. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:16 PM |
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He voted for a version that tied funding to withdrawal. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 02:19 PM |
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I want him to keep his word about being against Iraq War. |
terisan |
Jan-08-08 02:26 PM |
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omg |
cali |
Jan-08-08 02:24 PM |
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Yeah, I have a different take |
zidzi |
Jan-08-08 02:31 PM |
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Second that. |
smoogatz |
Jan-08-08 03:47 PM |
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You are dead wrong. |
Tennessee Gal |
Jan-08-08 06:13 PM |
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Checking records - always healthy. Well thought out. |
robbedvoter |
Jan-08-08 06:16 PM |
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Very well said, my feelings exactly |
ngant17 |
Jan-08-08 06:31 PM |
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excellent observation. Actions speak louder than words... The brilliant |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-09-08 08:12 AM |
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