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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:24 AM
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112. I think he does too
Didn't he also insult Ted Kennedy a while back basically calling him a tired old man who needed to get out of the way?

I also think his response last night was graceless and without class.
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  -"You're likable enough, Hillary." libbygurl  Jan-06-08 03:23 PM   #0 
  - Don't care. She's so far off the human compassion scale I'm surprised he could even say that about  K Gardner   Jan-06-08 03:24 PM   #1 
  - Heh, that's one way to look at it.  MH1   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #14 
  - "far off the human compassion scale"  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #16 
  - No worse than HRC insinuating JE was responsible for a girl's death or saying  K Gardner   Jan-06-08 03:46 PM   #45 
  - Hillary didn't insinuate Edwards was responsible for a girl's death  creeksneakers2   Jan-06-08 03:50 PM   #51 
  - Welcome to politics -- they ALL criticize.  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 04:09 PM   #71 
  - Stephanopoulis said it wasn't Obama's best moment, so  Native   Jan-06-08 04:20 PM   #78 
     - And Stephanopolis is unbiased? Not.  CTD   Jan-06-08 04:33 PM   #85 
     - It was insulting. He was trying to diminish, to minimize her as if she weren't important.  SharonAnn   Jan-06-08 07:55 PM   #97 
  - Irrational.  Harvey Korman   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   # 
  - Do you have any contact with the truth at all?  aquart   Jan-06-08 04:01 PM   #64 
  - Which would make him "off the scale of human compassion," not her.  aquart   Jan-06-08 04:28 PM   #82 
  - I think that some women may have cared...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 01:06 PM   #136 
  - I find his comment more generous than my own personal opinion. eom  Kittycat   Jan-06-08 03:24 PM   #2 
  - I got the sense that he was taken aback by the question  XemaSab   Jan-06-08 03:25 PM   #3 
  - what WAS the question and by who?  rodeodance   Jan-06-08 03:31 PM   #29 
  - By the fucking moderator..who  zidzi   Jan-06-08 03:38 PM   #37 
  - Here's the video:  XemaSab   Jan-06-08 05:36 PM   #90 
  - I think he was. He looked away in embarrassment. I think the  roguevalley   Jan-06-08 08:26 PM   #103 
  - I thought he was being an arrogant prick. He couldn't even look her in the eye...He was not being a  journalist3072   Jan-06-08 03:25 PM   #4 
  - that was my take too. Not his best moment.  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #18 
  - Not at all...Sometimes the best thing is to keep your mouth shut.....And that's something he doesn't  journalist3072   Jan-06-08 03:40 PM   #40 
  - Condescending and imperious.  AmBlue   Jan-06-08 03:49 PM   #50 
  - Or maybe that was his best moment.  Auntie Bush   Jan-06-08 11:08 PM   #109 
  - If Hillary were a man  Madam Mossfern   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #19 
  - If Clinton were a man--no one would ask that stupid sexist question  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 04:00 PM   #60 
  - I also think he is an ass.  DURHAM D   Jan-06-08 04:01 PM   #62 
  - I think he does too  cmkramer   Jan-07-08 12:24 AM   #112 
  - he makes mean remarks about older people  allalone   Jan-07-08 12:41 AM   #115 
  - Especially arrogant considering she had just complimented him  Native   Jan-06-08 04:18 PM   #77 
  - Exactly. Sen. Clinton had been very gracious...and he rewarded that by being a complete ass.  journalist3072   Jan-06-08 04:31 PM   #83 
     - Totally agree  riskpeace   Jan-07-08 04:50 PM   #128 
  - my feeling as well--  la la   Jan-06-08 04:41 PM   #87 
  - Condescending and not "hopeful" at that particular moment.  Bluebear   Jan-06-08 03:26 PM   #5 
  - I took it as commentary on the whole b.s. "likability" factor  MH1   Jan-06-08 03:26 PM   #6 
  - agreed.  Buzz Clik   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #12 
  - I saw that comment for the first time on MTP and then on This Week.  Buzz Clik   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #7 
  - It makes sense coming from Obama...  CyberPieHole   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #8 
  - ARe you serious?  hertopos   Jan-06-08 03:44 PM   # 
     - No kidding. Obliged to vote for O? I read about a poll from a couple of months ago...  libbygurl   Jan-06-08 03:53 PM   #52 
        - Well, this is what I am talking...  hertopos   Jan-06-08 03:57 PM   #58 
  - I thought it made him look small - maybe he thought it was a good "laugh  Peregrine Took   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #9 
  - Doubt he thought it a laugh line - he lowered his head.  Native   Jan-06-08 04:38 PM   #86 
  - I know some didn't like it, but I didn't react to it that way.  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #10 
  - I think it was a poor attempt at humor.  ryanmuegge   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #11 
  - I can't read Obama's mind  NastyRiffraff   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #13 
  - Appropriate, even generous after all her and her camp's smears against him. nt  jenmito   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #15 
  - Obama was taking notes at the time. He made the comment gave a small  Quixote1818   Jan-06-08 03:28 PM   #17 
  - I thought it was fine; they are running against each other, and her camp  babylonsister   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #20 
  - Almost as funny as when McCain called Romney the  Obama_for_our_future   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #21 
  - Then only McCain went into hysterics at his own joke. It was a poor moment for him.  Bluebear   Jan-06-08 03:30 PM   #26 
  - That was great and Romney looked befuddled at that moment like he knew McCain  Quixote1818   Jan-06-08 03:30 PM   #28 
  - I loved that statement  Raine   Jan-07-08 02:58 AM   #122 
  - Don't care  BringBigDogBack   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #22 
  - He just a AWFUL vicious just awful horrible person.  A-Schwarzenegger   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #23 
  - Calm down, Arnie.  milkyway   Jan-07-08 04:47 PM   #126 
     - I was riding a candy bar high at the time of my tirade.  A-Schwarzenegger   Jan-07-08 05:00 PM   #130 
  - I didnt like it either...  yourguide   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #24 
  - It killed him to say something nice about her, even though she'd just said he was likeable.  Skip Intro   Jan-06-08 03:29 PM   #25 
  - Hil was hardly gracious or engaging the first half of the debate n/t  yourguide   Jan-06-08 03:33 PM   #31 
  - Hillary seemed so much different during the second half of the debate  Quixote1818   Jan-06-08 03:37 PM   #36 
  - If Hillary were a man, no one would expect her to be "gracious or engaging"  Jai4WKC08   Jan-06-08 03:39 PM   #39 
     - incorrect  yourguide   Jan-06-08 03:44 PM   #43 
     - correct. n/t  Skip Intro   Jan-06-08 03:47 PM   #46 
     - What?  CarbonDate   Jan-07-08 02:49 AM   #121 
        - I think you missed my point  Jai4WKC08   Jan-07-08 04:44 PM   #125 
  - At least some of them must have paid attention...  CyberPieHole   Jan-10-08 01:05 AM   #137 
  - I didn't get it, though I didn't take it as a compliment or a diss...  timeforarevolution   Jan-06-08 03:30 PM   #27 
  - I thought he handled it badly and that it came across as quite rude, even if he didn't mean for it t  ElizabethDC   Jan-06-08 03:32 PM   #30 
  - ...but not likable enough to win the nomination. nt  Oregonian   Jan-06-08 03:33 PM   #32 
  - it was very appropriate.  loveangelc   Jan-06-08 03:34 PM   #33 
  - I think he was trying to make light of an embarassing issue  Apollo11   Jan-06-08 03:36 PM   #34 
  - Condescending and arrogant; the same thing we slam Hillary for  Carrieyazel   Jan-06-08 03:37 PM   #35 
  - it was appropriate because the whole questioning seemed strange and staged  loveangelc   Jan-06-08 03:39 PM   #38 
  - He told the truth......  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-08 03:43 PM   #41 
  - I cannot believe some are making such  ZinZen   Jan-06-08 06:04 PM   #92 
  - We "need to know" that?  Jai4WKC08   Jan-07-08 04:49 PM   #127 
     - Interesting,  seasonedblue   Jan-10-08 01:12 AM   #139 
  - I thought it was patronizing. n/t  wisteria   Jan-06-08 03:44 PM   #42 
  - But nobody would have believed it if Obama said he really thinks Hillary is just awesome  Apollo11   Jan-06-08 03:54 PM   #53 
  - Yep. Also snotty, didn't even look at her.  Little Star   Jan-06-08 04:05 PM   #68 
  - it was a joke  Magic Rat   Jan-06-08 03:45 PM   #44 
  - I watched that part again - and I think Hillary got the joke.  Apollo11   Jan-06-08 04:02 PM   #65 
  - hillary always acts like  zidzi   Jan-06-08 03:48 PM   #47 
  - it was the word "enough" that made it bad  MarkInLA   Jan-06-08 03:48 PM   #48 
  - Bingo, that really clarifies it.  Bluebear   Jan-06-08 03:54 PM   #54 
  - ding ding ding..  indimuse   Jan-06-08 03:57 PM   #57 
  - Agree. The "enough" word suggests:  Seabiscuit   Jan-06-08 04:17 PM   #75 
     - no, the "enough" word made it a joke  Magic Rat   Jan-06-08 04:56 PM   #89 
     - I really don't think he likes her. This isn't the face of someone looking at someone he likes:  wlucinda   Jan-07-08 02:15 AM   #120 
     - Hillary was playing a :"girl" game in response to the moderator's  Skidmore   Jan-06-08 06:11 PM   # 
  - Seemed catty.  Occam Bandage   Jan-06-08 03:49 PM   #49 
  - the real obama stripped of his fancy canned rhetoric... nt  msongs   Jan-06-08 03:54 PM   #55 
  - He should have said he loved her with a white hot burning love.  smoogatz   Jan-06-08 03:55 PM   #56 
  - LOL  tammywammy   Jan-06-08 04:00 PM   #61 
  - I was confused as to what he was trying to get across.  LucyParsons   Jan-06-08 03:58 PM   #59 
  - I think he was trying to help Hillary deal with a dumb question  Apollo11   Jan-06-08 04:05 PM   #69 
  - It was "sexist"  itsrobert   Jan-06-08 04:01 PM   #63 
  - I thought it was a rude thing to say but also kinda funny  judaspriestess   Jan-06-08 04:02 PM   #66 
  - He was softening the groin kick she received being told by the moderator that people don't like her.  AtomicKitten   Jan-06-08 04:02 PM   #67 
  - Exactly AK. He was helping her out.  Apollo11   Jan-06-08 04:06 PM   #70 
     - There it is in black and white.  AtomicKitten   Jan-06-08 04:12 PM   #74 
  - Until I heard others complain  jbnow   Jan-06-08 04:10 PM   #72 
  - I don't support Hillary or Obama, but I thought Obama was...  puebloknot   Jan-06-08 04:10 PM   #73 
  - I thought her "poor me" phony act subtracted 10 years from what feminists have fought for  zulchzulu   Jan-06-08 04:18 PM   #76 
  - Thanks for your concern.  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 04:24 PM   #80 
  - Nonsense! Hillary made a joke out of it and showed how stupid...  puebloknot   Jan-06-08 06:11 PM   #95 
  - God! She was being sarcastic. You didn't get it.  juajen   Jan-06-08 11:42 PM   #111 
  - No she didn't  Raine   Jan-07-08 03:07 AM   #123 
  - A bit surly, I thought. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Jan-06-08 04:23 PM   #79 
  - People just love to create drama around here  gmudem   Jan-06-08 04:25 PM   #81 
  - I absolutely agree! nt  puebloknot   Jan-06-08 06:09 PM   #94 
  - It's the very burning issue that I will base my vote on.  Marnieworld   Jan-06-08 04:33 PM   #84 
  - He was nicer then I would have been able to be  Wolsh   Jan-06-08 04:46 PM   #88 
  - I must admit I was a bit taken aback by it.  Skinner   Jan-06-08 05:43 PM   #91 
  - Your reaction/interpretation was the same as mine and my mother's  ElizabethDC   Jan-06-08 06:06 PM   #93 
  - I wouldn't vote for Obama if they paid me a million dollars, but...  puebloknot   Jan-06-08 06:16 PM   #96 
  - It was insulting. He was trying to diminish, to minimize her as if she weren't important.  SharonAnn   Jan-06-08 08:01 PM   #99 
  - I agree with you completely...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 02:27 AM   #135 
  - I believe that Obama was saying that she was likeable enough to  FrenchieCat   Jan-06-08 08:04 PM   #101 
  - EXACTLY, Skinner! It was all in the delivery!  bullwinkle428   Jan-06-08 08:50 PM   #105 
  - Some voters may have viewed it as a tad snarky...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 02:25 AM   #134 
  - HRC's comment was funny, Obama compleatly missed to the joke.  adapa   Jan-06-08 08:01 PM   #98 
  - Obama was dismissive and condescending  unc70   Jan-06-08 08:04 PM   #100 
  - He resolved an awkward moment. to get back on topic.  laureloak   Jan-06-08 08:06 PM   #102 
  - Was the moderator hoping that Hillary would burst into tears?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-06-08 08:38 PM   #104 
  - My translation: "Hillary you're just fine, that was a stupid question" nt  kansasblue   Jan-06-08 10:20 PM   #106 
  - STOP MAKING SENSE.  A-Schwarzenegger   Jan-07-08 05:02 PM   #131 
  - It sounded on the replay like hillary was trying to make a comment insinuating that Obama  ProudDad   Jan-06-08 11:01 PM   #107 
  - Not his finest moment  loindelrio   Jan-06-08 11:04 PM   #108 
  - Just a poorly placed off the cuff joke while he was preoccupied  Armstead   Jan-06-08 11:08 PM   #110 
  - pissed me off  allalone   Jan-07-08 12:37 AM   #113 
  - Actually he did say "Hillary." It's on the video and transcript.  Garbo 2004   Jan-07-08 01:28 AM   #117 
  - If that's the worst camp carville can come up with  dailykoff   Jan-07-08 12:39 AM   #114 
  - Everybody seems to ignore what the guy said before he asked her that question.  Beacool   Jan-07-08 01:25 AM   #116 
  - I thought it was just a dry political joke...  Yuugal   Jan-07-08 01:40 AM   #118 
  - Wanker.  avrdream   Jan-07-08 01:55 AM   #119 
  - He lied  origin1286   Jan-07-08 03:08 AM   #124 
  - I didn't like that exchange between  bigwillq   Jan-07-08 04:51 PM   #129 
  - I guess Obama was right...  CyberPieHole   Jan-08-08 11:28 PM   #132 
  - I just read that this little comment may have cost Obama some points...  CyberPieHole   Jan-09-08 02:22 AM   #133 
  - I don't think Obama handled it well at all. But at least he didn't choke up  TheDonkey   Jan-10-08 01:07 AM   #138 
  - He probably let the cat out of the bag  ProudDad   Jan-10-08 01:18 AM   #140 
 

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