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Mon Jan-07-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 68. "strike first" obama is a pacifist? nt |
| -Looking for a discussion: Senator Clinton's defied odds in a sexist USA |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:16 PM |
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Sexist? |
itsrobert |
Jan-06-08 03:19 PM |
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did you read the 'shrill' |
abburdlen |
Jan-06-08 03:33 PM |
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Yes, this is why we need a female president. To break the male deadlock of US presidencies. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:34 PM |
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Get someone like Barbara Boxer, and she will get my vote! |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 04:01 PM |
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Boxer's not running - if she were I would probably vote for her two. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 04:03 PM |
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Whether she's running or not is not the point... |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 04:20 PM |
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A sexist USA we were prior to the women's liberation movement in the 60s. And, today |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:33 PM |
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Hah! |
Sparkly |
Jan-06-08 03:40 PM |
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The fact that you define something as sexist doesn't make it so. NT |
TheWraith |
Jan-06-08 03:41 PM |
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Ergo, there is no such thing as "sexist." |
Sparkly |
Jan-06-08 03:59 PM |
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I see things exactly as you have described. |
Rock_Garden |
Jan-06-08 03:27 PM |
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What's wrong with being sexy? |
Nailzberg |
Jan-06-08 03:30 PM |
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I totally agree with you. And I think that the amount of contempt |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-06-08 03:37 PM |
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We have further to go. I am stunned by the lack of support for her among women. I do |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:41 PM |
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Agree . I get a sardonic kick at a lot of Duers claiming to be progressive but trashing the female. |
terisan |
Jan-06-08 03:42 PM |
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Anita Hill - that was 1991 and not the 70s. |
rosesaylavee |
Jan-06-08 03:44 PM |
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you are correct. type-o |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-06-08 03:49 PM |
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Very fond of Professor Hill - and I remember that moment in time much |
rosesaylavee |
Jan-06-08 03:57 PM |
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Yes, But I also wonder, given the severity of our problems(climate, war,economy) people eschew |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 04:02 PM |
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I still am undecided but have to admit |
rosesaylavee |
Jan-06-08 04:27 PM |
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One can use the position as First Lady or ignore it. Clinton used it. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 05:12 PM |
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Now that is something of substance... |
rosesaylavee |
Jan-06-08 05:34 PM |
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very much appreciated. Thank you. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 06:12 PM |
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McGovern endorsed her because of her experience: |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 05:22 PM |
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My "contempt" for her has everything to do with her war votes |
enough already |
Jan-06-08 03:55 PM |
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where is your contempt for Edwards, Biden, Dodd? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-06-08 03:57 PM |
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Did they not learn from their previous mistake and vote in the same fashion on Iran? |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 04:05 PM |
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I guess that is what happens when you listen to the spin and not the |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-06-08 04:06 PM |
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Yes, I was sifting out the SPIN of her trying to rationalize why she voted the way she did! |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 04:24 PM |
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I don't play victim. and, contempt for Hillary goes beyond the vote. Its much deeper. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:58 PM |
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Your response is actually rooted in more emotion than fact. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:59 PM |
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Thank you, Dr. Phil |
enough already |
Jan-06-08 04:06 PM |
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Shrill, I would say. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 04:07 PM |
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"strike first" obama is a pacifist? nt |
frankenforpres |
Jan-07-08 09:01 AM |
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Damn Straight. |
incapsulated |
Jan-06-08 03:56 PM |
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Well, I'll say this |
Harvey Korman |
Jan-06-08 03:38 PM |
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Agreed. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:52 PM |
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She can basically be considered one of the top 3 most powerful women in the history of the US |
ShaneGR |
Jan-06-08 03:40 PM |
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How about Condolezza Rice? Looks like sometimes Republicans are the more progressive unfortunately. |
terisan |
Jan-06-08 03:51 PM |
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Rice is a shining example of the successes of the women's movement and civil rights movement. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:53 PM |
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Why do women have to support THIS woman to prove they are feminists? |
Diane R |
Jan-06-08 03:43 PM |
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The objection is to lack of discussion on issues and overabundance of personal attacks.nt |
terisan |
Jan-06-08 03:48 PM |
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Interesting. I am not saying that supporting her proves you are a feminist. I am saying |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:51 PM |
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My concerns are NOTHING personal. They are concerns about what she would do... |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 04:11 PM |
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Look at Obama's contributors. Goldman Sachs gives him more money than they do Clinton. He will be be |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 04:55 PM |
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I'm not saying I'm FOR Obama either... I'm actually for Edwards for that reason too... |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 07:35 PM |
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I can honestly say his closeness with religious righties and his religiousity make me uneasy as a |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-07-08 12:43 AM |
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Pullease! Take off those rose colored glasses? |
calipendence |
Jan-07-08 08:37 AM |
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I took off the glasses and I found this: |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-07-08 10:53 PM |
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Conerns me more: a candidate who has often blamed his staff for his mistakes and |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 05:14 PM |
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As I said, I'm not trying to defend Obama... Don't continue to deflect away Hillary's weaknesses! |
calipendence |
Jan-06-08 07:36 PM |
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I am repelled by his comfort with religious right and engaging in their male dominated language |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 10:24 PM |
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So, if you're repelled by that, then why aren't you repelled by this? |
calipendence |
Jan-07-08 08:35 AM |
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Complete yellow journalism. Prove this one to me. actually, never mind. I'll verify it. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-07-08 10:55 PM |
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Hey, PAY ATTENTION. I've said repeatedly I'm NOT an Obama supporter! |
calipendence |
Jan-07-08 11:07 PM |
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Ok, fine. Then let's talk about original post. What do you think of that? |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-07-08 11:17 PM |
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I feel about her kind of like I feel about Condi Rice... |
calipendence |
Jan-08-08 12:04 AM |
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I disagree |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-08-08 02:42 AM |
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Personally, I feel someone like Barbara Boxer is more qualified and desirable as a nominee... |
calipendence |
Jan-08-08 10:08 AM |
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Very well said n/t |
enough already |
Jan-06-08 03:56 PM |
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I am reminded that black men got the vote before women. Following DU has made me realize why. |
terisan |
Jan-06-08 03:47 PM |
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I think you nailed it. Bravo! n/t |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 03:54 PM |
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I agree. nm |
Alamom |
Jan-06-08 05:36 PM |
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Yep 60 years or so. |
DemCam |
Jan-06-08 05:49 PM |
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people forget how difficult it was for women to go to college, get a job, be treated with respect |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 10:25 PM |
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Because she's so high class |
Mr_Monday |
Jan-06-08 04:28 PM |
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Her biggest supporters are lower income voters and those in unions. |
Beacool |
Jan-07-08 01:06 AM |
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I'm talking about HRC, not her supporters. nt |
Mr_Monday |
Jan-07-08 05:19 PM |
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The All Boy's Club. It's very obvious. |
Alamom |
Jan-06-08 05:40 PM |
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It's time to break it up. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 06:13 PM |
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I would hate to think we are picking a candidate based on just gender. |
Clanfear |
Jan-06-08 10:29 PM |
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How is that the context when the post is about why the same level of analysis |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 10:49 PM |
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Maybe you should take a look at this. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-06-08 10:50 PM |
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Oh no, there's no sexism in this country. |
Beacool |
Jan-07-08 12:54 AM |
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I can't believe the sexism |
seasonedblue |
Jan-07-08 08:52 AM |
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Obama might beat her, but if he doesn't, the sexism will do her in. That much is obvious |
mtnsnake |
Jan-07-08 09:00 AM |
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It's sickening for every female in America - women and girls. This obama thing is cultish. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jan-07-08 10:56 PM |
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Because she wouldn't have a chance if she wasn't someone's wife |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Jan-07-08 05:24 PM |
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