You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #42: I still am undecided but have to admit [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #33
42. I still am undecided but have to admit
that HRC will only get my support in the GE if she's the nominee. I don't see the experience she keeps touting. She's been a senator for almost two terms and prior to that, she was first lady to a president and a governor. Why does she have more expertise to deal with the troubles we are facing than the other guys? If its style and programs she is promoting, I can understand the support. But her experience is as lacking as the other two... in my opinion.

If I am wrong, please let me know but I just honestly don't see it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -Looking for a discussion: Senator Clinton's defied odds in a sexist USA Captain_Nemo  Jan-06-08 03:16 PM   #0 
  - Sexist?  itsrobert   Jan-06-08 03:19 PM   #1 
  - did you read the 'shrill'  abburdlen   Jan-06-08 03:33 PM   #4 
  - Yes, this is why we need a female president. To break the male deadlock of US presidencies.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:34 PM   #6 
     - Get someone like Barbara Boxer, and she will get my vote!  calipendence   Jan-06-08 04:01 PM   #32 
        - Boxer's not running - if she were I would probably vote for her two.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 04:03 PM   #34 
           - Whether she's running or not is not the point...  calipendence   Jan-06-08 04:20 PM   #40 
  - A sexist USA we were prior to the women's liberation movement in the 60s. And, today  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:33 PM   #5 
  - Hah!  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 03:40 PM   #10 
     - The fact that you define something as sexist doesn't make it so. NT  TheWraith   Jan-06-08 03:41 PM   #11 
        - Ergo, there is no such thing as "sexist."  Sparkly   Jan-06-08 03:59 PM   #30 
  - I see things exactly as you have described.  Rock_Garden   Jan-06-08 03:27 PM   #2 
  - What's wrong with being sexy?  Nailzberg   Jan-06-08 03:30 PM   #3 
  - I totally agree with you. And I think that the amount of contempt  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 03:37 PM   #7 
  - We have further to go. I am stunned by the lack of support for her among women. I do  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:41 PM   #12 
  - Agree . I get a sardonic kick at a lot of Duers claiming to be progressive but trashing the female.  terisan   Jan-06-08 03:42 PM   #13 
  - Anita Hill - that was 1991 and not the 70s.  rosesaylavee   Jan-06-08 03:44 PM   #15 
  - you are correct. type-o  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 03:49 PM   #18 
     - Very fond of Professor Hill - and I remember that moment in time much  rosesaylavee   Jan-06-08 03:57 PM   #27 
        - Yes, But I also wonder, given the severity of our problems(climate, war,economy) people eschew  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 04:02 PM   #33 
           - I still am undecided but have to admit  rosesaylavee   Jan-06-08 04:27 PM   #42 
              - One can use the position as First Lady or ignore it. Clinton used it.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 05:12 PM   #45 
              - Now that is something of substance...  rosesaylavee   Jan-06-08 05:34 PM   #48 
                 - very much appreciated. Thank you.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 06:12 PM   #52 
              - McGovern endorsed her because of her experience:  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 05:22 PM   #47 
  - My "contempt" for her has everything to do with her war votes  enough already   Jan-06-08 03:55 PM   #24 
  - where is your contempt for Edwards, Biden, Dodd?  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 03:57 PM   #28 
  - Did they not learn from their previous mistake and vote in the same fashion on Iran?  calipendence   Jan-06-08 04:05 PM   #35 
     - I guess that is what happens when you listen to the spin and not the  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-06-08 04:06 PM   #37 
        - Yes, I was sifting out the SPIN of her trying to rationalize why she voted the way she did!  calipendence   Jan-06-08 04:24 PM   #41 
  - I don't play victim. and, contempt for Hillary goes beyond the vote. Its much deeper.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:58 PM   #29 
  - Your response is actually rooted in more emotion than fact.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:59 PM   #31 
  - Thank you, Dr. Phil  enough already   Jan-06-08 04:06 PM   #36 
     - Shrill, I would say.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 04:07 PM   #38 
  - "strike first" obama is a pacifist? nt  frankenforpres   Jan-07-08 09:01 AM   #68 
  - Damn Straight.  incapsulated   Jan-06-08 03:56 PM   #25 
  - Well, I'll say this  Harvey Korman   Jan-06-08 03:38 PM   #8 
  - Agreed.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:52 PM   #21 
  - She can basically be considered one of the top 3 most powerful women in the history of the US  ShaneGR   Jan-06-08 03:40 PM   #9 
  - How about Condolezza Rice? Looks like sometimes Republicans are the more progressive unfortunately.  terisan   Jan-06-08 03:51 PM   #19 
     - Rice is a shining example of the successes of the women's movement and civil rights movement.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:53 PM   #22 
  - Why do women have to support THIS woman to prove they are feminists?  Diane R   Jan-06-08 03:43 PM   #14 
  - The objection is to lack of discussion on issues and overabundance of personal attacks.nt  terisan   Jan-06-08 03:48 PM   #17 
  - Interesting. I am not saying that supporting her proves you are a feminist. I am saying  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:51 PM   #20 
  - My concerns are NOTHING personal. They are concerns about what she would do...  calipendence   Jan-06-08 04:11 PM   #39 
     - Look at Obama's contributors. Goldman Sachs gives him more money than they do Clinton. He will be be  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 04:55 PM   #44 
     - I'm not saying I'm FOR Obama either... I'm actually for Edwards for that reason too...  calipendence   Jan-06-08 07:35 PM   #54 
        - I can honestly say his closeness with religious righties and his religiousity make me uneasy as a  Captain_Nemo   Jan-07-08 12:43 AM   #61 
           - Pullease! Take off those rose colored glasses?  calipendence   Jan-07-08 08:37 AM   #65 
              - I took off the glasses and I found this:  Captain_Nemo   Jan-07-08 10:53 PM   #71 
     - Conerns me more: a candidate who has often blamed his staff for his mistakes and  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 05:14 PM   #46 
        - As I said, I'm not trying to defend Obama... Don't continue to deflect away Hillary's weaknesses!  calipendence   Jan-06-08 07:36 PM   #55 
           - I am repelled by his comfort with religious right and engaging in their male dominated language  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 10:24 PM   #56 
              - So, if you're repelled by that, then why aren't you repelled by this?  calipendence   Jan-07-08 08:35 AM   #64 
                 - Complete yellow journalism. Prove this one to me. actually, never mind. I'll verify it.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-07-08 10:55 PM   #72 
                    - Hey, PAY ATTENTION. I've said repeatedly I'm NOT an Obama supporter!  calipendence   Jan-07-08 11:07 PM   #74 
                       - Ok, fine. Then let's talk about original post. What do you think of that?  Captain_Nemo   Jan-07-08 11:17 PM   #75 
                          - I feel about her kind of like I feel about Condi Rice...  calipendence   Jan-08-08 12:04 AM   #76 
                             - I disagree  Captain_Nemo   Jan-08-08 02:42 AM   #77 
                                - Personally, I feel someone like Barbara Boxer is more qualified and desirable as a nominee...  calipendence   Jan-08-08 10:08 AM   #78 
  - Very well said n/t  enough already   Jan-06-08 03:56 PM   #26 
  - I am reminded that black men got the vote before women. Following DU has made me realize why.  terisan   Jan-06-08 03:47 PM   #16 
  - I think you nailed it. Bravo! n/t  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 03:54 PM   #23 
  - I agree. nm  Alamom   Jan-06-08 05:36 PM   #49 
  - Yep 60 years or so.  DemCam   Jan-06-08 05:49 PM   #51 
  - people forget how difficult it was for women to go to college, get a job, be treated with respect  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 10:25 PM   #57 
  - Because she's so high class  Mr_Monday   Jan-06-08 04:28 PM   #43 
  - Her biggest supporters are lower income voters and those in unions.  Beacool   Jan-07-08 01:06 AM   #63 
     - I'm talking about HRC, not her supporters. nt  Mr_Monday   Jan-07-08 05:19 PM   #69 
  - The All Boy's Club. It's very obvious.  Alamom   Jan-06-08 05:40 PM   #50 
  - It's time to break it up.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 06:13 PM   #53 
  - I would hate to think we are picking a candidate based on just gender.  Clanfear   Jan-06-08 10:29 PM   #58 
  - How is that the context when the post is about why the same level of analysis  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 10:49 PM   #59 
  - Maybe you should take a look at this.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-06-08 10:50 PM   #60 
  - Oh no, there's no sexism in this country.  Beacool   Jan-07-08 12:54 AM   #62 
  - I can't believe the sexism  seasonedblue   Jan-07-08 08:52 AM   #66 
  - Obama might beat her, but if he doesn't, the sexism will do her in. That much is obvious  mtnsnake   Jan-07-08 09:00 AM   #67 
  - It's sickening for every female in America - women and girls. This obama thing is cultish.  Captain_Nemo   Jan-07-08 10:56 PM   #73 
  - Because she wouldn't have a chance if she wasn't someone's wife  midlife_mo_Jo   Jan-07-08 05:24 PM   #70 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC