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Tue Jan-01-08 11:04 AM
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Look: the reason Obama's campaign can get away with the negative campaigning is because the media is complicit. Can you imagine if Clinton suggested he was "bushlike" in his votes? And remember, he voted for the war time and again, so she COULD say that. But, the media would be all over her attacking her relentlessly and obama would play the victim.
Clinton's are the usual politics that the media is not letting her get away with. Obama's attacks are the usual politics that the media is HELPING him get away with.
The "Gaffs" you refer to regarding Clinton are the ususal political stuff--not gaffs, but the media distorts.
The Gaffs Obama does are things like foreign policy blunders (suggesting that he personally would meet with Iran's leader, or suggesting that Clinton caused Bhutto's murder.) Those are gaffs we cannot afford.
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| -Yes. I think Obama is electable. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 10:35 AM |
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I agree that Barack Obama is |
mourningdove92 |
Jan-01-08 10:40 AM |
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I feel the same way, but If I see one more |
cali |
Jan-01-08 10:41 AM |
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I do not think it is because he is black. Yes, there are people |
OHdem10 |
Jan-01-08 10:50 AM |
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He's 46 years old. He would by no means be the youngest president elected. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 10:56 AM |
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I remember |
ZinZen |
Jan-01-08 12:46 PM |
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He is electable. |
H2O Man |
Jan-01-08 10:42 AM |
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Obama the best sice JFK, people from Des Moines poll today feel the same way also... |
Imagevision |
Jan-01-08 10:43 AM |
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I agree. nt |
mtnsnake |
Jan-01-08 10:43 AM |
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i will believe it when i see it |
noiretblu |
Jan-01-08 10:46 AM |
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He is not electable. He is an inexperienced light-weight |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-01-08 10:47 AM |
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A lightweight who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 10:54 AM |
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There is a difference |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-01-08 11:04 AM |
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Respectfully disagree. |
H2O Man |
Jan-01-08 11:12 AM |
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No. That is not what he said. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-01-08 11:18 AM |
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I agree that |
H2O Man |
Jan-01-08 11:36 AM |
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You sound bitter, Emerald. |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-01-08 11:10 AM |
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what a stupid thing to say |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-01-08 11:12 AM |
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"this country is as ready as it's ever been" |
WesDem |
Jan-01-08 10:55 AM |
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Yeah, even in the once-removed "other people think this way" tactic, that argument sucks |
jpgray |
Jan-01-08 10:57 AM |
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it's not a "once removed" tactic if you see the sexism all day at the office, in the streets etc |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:12 AM |
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But you can't say "Oh well, there are bigots, therefore I won't pursue that job/policy" |
jpgray |
Jan-01-08 11:21 AM |
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on issues and action, absolutely. but supporting a candidate because "it's time for..." |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:35 AM |
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You're right, supporting someone because of their race or gender alone is also silly |
jpgray |
Jan-01-08 11:36 AM |
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and i'm the first to admit, i will hold a woman or black man to a more progressive standard |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:57 AM |
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i wish i had your faith in the populace, but fear and ignorance has been bringing out |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 10:57 AM |
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one need look no further than DU |
noiretblu |
Jan-01-08 11:00 AM |
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But where does fear of ballot box bigots end? Doesn't that strategy axe support for gay marriage? |
jpgray |
Jan-01-08 11:01 AM |
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well that's what interesting- my feeling is that he's chasing the bigot vote already |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:28 AM |
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I have an extreme problem with Obama's triangulation, as I do with Hillary's |
jpgray |
Jan-01-08 11:32 AM |
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it should be about what is most important- which is why it's a shame to see the triangulations |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:47 AM |
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You seem to have forgotten 2006. And this year will, I believe, |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:02 AM |
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so, your personal extrapolation... i.e. guess is as good as mine. thank you. |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:18 AM |
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No, I made it clear, I don't extrapolate from my personal experience. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:28 AM |
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04 was a SQUEAKERfor the WH. (thread topic) and your opinions are based on |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 11:40 AM |
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Jan-01-08 11:55 AM |
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discussing the WH elections- Bush won bigtime? Is that your point, or do you totally lack one? |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 12:05 PM |
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No, cupcake, you originally wrote that we lost the WH in '06 |
cali |
Jan-01-08 01:16 PM |
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you have an opinion that there's less racism these days. it's not backed up by anything |
bettyellen |
Jan-01-08 02:11 PM |
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Wow! U sure can be nasty. |
Little Star |
Jan-01-08 02:37 PM |
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Hey, I'm fine with Obama. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-01-08 10:59 AM |
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He is NOT electable... |
virginia mountainman |
Jan-01-08 11:00 AM |
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Maybe he's not electable where you're from, but don't |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:05 AM |
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You are going to be given a reality check when he loses. |
MassDemm |
Jan-01-08 11:20 AM |
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Or you will be when he is elected. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:26 AM |
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Of course I will vote for him if he is the nominee, although that may be futile. nt |
MassDemm |
Jan-01-08 11:27 AM |
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many believe that racism does not exist in America. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Jan-01-08 11:41 AM |
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Stating Obama is a 'lightweight' with a failure like Bush in office is entertaining |
Imagevision |
Jan-01-08 11:01 AM |
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Agreed. I believe he can easily win a popular majority. |
dailykoff |
Jan-01-08 11:01 AM |
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Thanks. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:06 AM |
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reality will encroach soon. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Jan-01-08 11:12 AM |
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JJ & Al Sharpton still believe there are many bigots. |
Little Star |
Jan-01-08 11:30 AM |
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what a whispy straw man, my dear |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:42 AM |
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You might want to revisit the Harold Ford senate race in TN. nt |
MassDemm |
Jan-01-08 11:49 AM |
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Was Ford expected to win? No. A big fat no. |
cali |
Jan-01-08 12:08 PM |
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uhm, he was expected until the thinly veiled racist ads cam out and if you read this article |
MassDemm |
Jan-01-08 12:41 PM |
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He was never ahead in the polls, was he? |
cali |
Jan-01-08 12:56 PM |
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he was if you read down further. |
MassDemm |
Jan-01-08 01:08 PM |
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c'mon. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Jan-01-08 11:50 AM |
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Go ahead |
Little Star |
Jan-01-08 12:02 PM |
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yes. in 2016 |
indimuse |
Jan-01-08 11:30 AM |
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he's running now. And if he does well in Iowa on Thursday |
cali |
Jan-01-08 11:43 AM |
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maaybee... |
indimuse |
Jan-01-08 11:54 AM |
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It's basically saying we should pander to racists |
killbotfactory |
Jan-01-08 11:49 AM |
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I totally agree |
loveangelc |
Jan-01-08 11:51 AM |
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It appears several generations must die off to get rid of this racist bullsh*t... |
Imagevision |
Jan-01-08 11:59 AM |
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The amount of Independents this guy is getting is remarkable. |
TeamJordan23 |
Jan-01-08 12:07 PM |
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No one is electable if the ***holes steal the election! |
Sancho |
Jan-01-08 12:19 PM |
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kick |
Flabbergasted |
Jan-02-08 02:39 PM |
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Hell yeah, Obama is electable...... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-02-08 03:02 PM |
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