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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:59 PM
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33. Tell you something Bean...
You are using Repugnant talking points when you downplay Hillary's healthcare plans.

16 years ago, she developed a healthcare plan because as she said at the time: Our healthcare system is in crisis...it is broken.

The Repugnants attacked her loudly denying that there were any healthcare problems in the country. Hillary was right, the Repugnants were wrong.

What crimes do you(and the Repugnants)claim that Hillary has committed?
How do her alleged crimes stack up agains't the crimes of the Repugnants and BushCo?

Support of corporations and the wealthy? You really need to define this a bit more--give us specifics please.

Hillary has devoted much of the past 40 years to helping those: children, wives and mothers, and others who were unable to help themselves. She did this by both individual and group organizations--she performed major Pro-bono work at her own expense. She is the only candidate that we have who has devoted her life to these causes.

Sexism raises it's ugly head here: She and her husband obviously still have a marriage. If she chooses to stay with Bill, that is her decision, not yours or anyone elses. I note that Hillary's child, Chelsea, has not thrown away her father. This all speaks well for Hillary and now Chelsea's strengths. You want to attack this? This is the real family values that some prattle on, without substance, endlessly--until push comes to shove and they bail.

Looks to me that Hillary is a strong enough human being to handle setbacks and continue toward her goals. People like you cannot understand that. Perhaps Haggard's values are more important to you?

Out of all our candidates, only Hillary can stand the attacks that are coming. She has already faced all that the Repugs could throw...they are out of ammunition and she is still standing there waiting for the right time to return the attacks. Only Hillary has the long term history of service to others--the others, just don't have the resume.

As a male, I enjoy seeing strong, intelligent, and innovative women come on the scene. Most of you Ben, just do not like strong women.

In 1949, the Chinese leadership made an earthshaking comment: Women hold up half the sky. They haven't fully lived up to that comment as yet...and they may never. But, at least they said it. Long before our strong intelligent women got a shot at glass ceilings.

Further, as it applies to this campaign...The Repugnants want Obama to be the candidate. They can defeat him. Edwards? They can easily get him to lose his way. They do not want to confront Hillary. She can beat them at their own rotten game.
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  - Let there be peace on earth,  mahina   Dec-31-07 11:30 PM   #1 
  - What a beautiful post, annie.  Katzenkavalier   Dec-31-07 11:31 PM   #2 
  - thanks. thanks everyone. : )  annie1   Dec-31-07 11:43 PM   #6 
  - delete. nt  calteacherguy   Jan-01-08 01:40 AM   #21 
  - I hope you don't hang things up...  Lithos   Dec-31-07 11:36 PM   #3 
  - I agree with a lot of what you are saying.  TeamJordan23   Dec-31-07 11:39 PM   #4 
  - If it makes you feel better, I'm 21, and I support Hillary  ElizabethDC   Dec-31-07 11:41 PM   #5 
  - awesome. : ). i love her.  annie1   Dec-31-07 11:44 PM   #7 
  - you are wrong, she had young women just months ago for the same reasons  JI7   Dec-31-07 11:45 PM   #8 
  - hmmm. right, i remember she was going to have to go after the male vote...  annie1   Dec-31-07 11:47 PM   #9 
  - I think she's been concentrating on older voters, especially in Iowa  ElizabethDC   Dec-31-07 11:50 PM   #10 
  - And then there was John Edwards...  BeatleBoot   Dec-31-07 11:57 PM   #11 
  - In a campaign that last so long, and in an era when politics is so important,  philly_bob   Jan-01-08 12:31 AM   #12 
  - Your post is very interesting for several reasons.  jaysunb   Jan-01-08 12:38 AM   #13 
  - interesting.  annie1   Jan-01-08 12:45 AM   #15 
  - You don't like me, and I like you  Wolsh   Jan-01-08 12:40 AM   #14 
  - Barack Obama won't win a general election against a Republican  dpbrown   Jan-01-08 01:12 AM   #16 
  - And hillary will??? LOL.  loveangelc   Jan-01-08 01:16 AM   #17 
  - One does not mean the other  dpbrown   Jan-01-08 01:24 AM   #18 
  - But the polls are not valid because he's winning Republicans  sandnsea   Jan-01-08 01:43 AM   #23 
  - Incorrect.  BringBigDogBack   Jan-01-08 02:03 AM   #25 
  - But at least she tried.  cat_girl25   Jan-01-08 01:26 AM   #19 
  - Yes. True. : ).  annie1   Jan-01-08 01:27 AM   #20 
  - Nice post, Annie.  calteacherguy   Jan-01-08 01:41 AM   #22 
  - we deserve a fresh start  BringBigDogBack   Jan-01-08 02:02 AM   #24 
  - You're giving up too soon.  Beacool   Jan-01-08 02:16 AM   #26 
  - Annie and Elizabeth, It was something over 30 years ago that women...  hayu_lol   Jan-01-08 04:18 AM   #27 
  - This incredible post should be an OP. Thank you. You've said more  Alamom   Jan-01-08 05:21 AM   #28 
  - Yes, I wish hayu_lol would copy and paste it as a new OP..  Tellurian   Jan-01-08 11:24 AM   #31 
  - I agree, your post needs it's own thread.  seasonedblue   Jan-02-08 09:22 AM   #50 
  - And delegate rich Florida before  leftynyc   Jan-03-08 08:05 AM   #54 
  - I was deluded by her too. I only started waking up during the Monica thing  bean fidhleir   Jan-01-08 06:04 AM   #29 
  - Except her resume listing her accomplishments are a part of her..  Tellurian   Jan-01-08 11:23 AM   #30 
  - Her accomplishments are not the kind decent people should tolerate, never mind encourage  bean fidhleir   Jan-01-08 02:36 PM   #32 
     - Tell you something Bean...  hayu_lol   Jan-01-08 02:59 PM   #33 
     - I suppose it is her fault no other health care plan would be an option...  annie1   Jan-02-08 05:26 AM   #42 
        - "So let's be realistic"  bean fidhleir   Jan-02-08 07:13 AM   #47 
           - so it's indecent...  annie1   Jan-02-08 07:35 AM   #49 
              - Let's agree to disagree, shall we? (nt)  bean fidhleir   Jan-02-08 10:58 AM   #52 
  - You were not in her marriage and it's definitely not your place to judge  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-01-08 03:01 PM   #34 
  - She has the right to make her own decision, yes  bean fidhleir   Jan-02-08 04:51 AM   #40 
  - her "corporatized" health insurance is not an honest mistake...  annie1   Jan-02-08 05:29 AM   #43 
     - Yes, I know it wasn't. But it took me a while to realize that. (nt)  bean fidhleir   Jan-02-08 07:14 AM   #48 
  - It's not Hillary  Capn Sunshine   Jan-01-08 03:07 PM   #35 
  - Actually Cap'n, Hillary will be our next president...  hayu_lol   Jan-01-08 04:33 PM   #36 
  - Hey, can you please tell me what stocks to buy for best results in the next year?  mahina   Jan-01-08 05:36 PM   #37 
     - Well Mahina, why don't you...  hayu_lol   Jan-01-08 05:58 PM   #38 
  - i agree, these people are a mess.  annie1   Jan-01-08 06:47 PM   #39 
  - Obama Would Lose The Majority of the States  fightindonkey   Jan-02-08 05:15 AM   #41 
  - THEIR WORLD? Since when do teens and twenty-somethings decide US policy?  readmoreoften   Jan-02-08 05:42 AM   #44 
     - yeah, that was a bit of an exaageration i guess. :D.  annie1   Jan-02-08 05:43 AM   #45 
        - The "world" belongs to voters..  sendero   Jan-02-08 06:04 AM   #46 
           - What it would take to get the attention of potential young voters...  hayu_lol   Jan-02-08 10:27 AM   #51 
              - Looks like many of our candidates are losing their way...  hayu_lol   Jan-03-08 07:53 AM   #53 
 

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