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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:32 PM
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9. Seriously, if you had the Clinton name to run on
would you throw it away?
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  -If she's such a feminist, and independent woman, why not run as Hillary Rodham? Armstead  Dec-26-07 12:28 PM   #0 
  - Oh please!  MaineDem   Dec-26-07 12:30 PM   #1 
  - Nope, it is a damn fair and honest question  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:30 PM   #4 
     - Silly thread.  WileEcoyote   Dec-26-07 03:56 PM   #75 
     - My spouse kept his birth name when we married. Do you want to ask him why?  terisan   Dec-28-07 10:15 AM   #86 
  - I dibs-y the popcorn concession on this corner  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:30 PM   #2 
  - No the popcorn concession is mine  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:31 PM   #7 
     - You are a brave & honest man, Armstead. And I admire your fortitude.  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:33 PM   #12 
        - All that popcorn will make me thirsty  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:38 PM   #23 
  - ummm....  Evergreen Emerald   Dec-26-07 12:30 PM   #3 
  - Maybe because it's not her name anymore.  William769   Dec-26-07 12:31 PM   #5 
  - And THAT is by HER CHOICE  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:32 PM   #8 
     - Stop smoking the Christmas tree,  William769   Dec-26-07 12:33 PM   #11 
     - Ah, once again, the foolishness of thinking personal attacks are real arguments  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:35 PM   #15 
        - If you think this is a real argument, then you have my pity.  William769   Dec-26-07 12:36 PM   #18 
           - This fool happens to know a woman can keep her name  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:38 PM   #22 
     - Hillary didn't take her husband's name until they had been married for 5 or 6 years  ElizabethDC   Dec-26-07 02:51 PM   #66 
        - Yep, that's the story I heard...  polichick   Dec-26-07 03:06 PM   #73 
        - Yes, I know that  havocmom   Dec-26-07 04:55 PM   #85 
  - Because the media would have a field day if she did that, you silly-billy.  Perry Logan   Dec-26-07 12:31 PM   #6 
  - Well you've got a good point there...  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:33 PM   #10 
  - This is a free country - at least it used to be - so  Bobbieo   Dec-26-07 12:36 PM   #19 
  - Seriously, if you had the Clinton name to run on  demnan   Dec-26-07 12:32 PM   #9 
  - If I were female and trying to establish my own identity I would  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:35 PM   #16 
     - LOL!  cali   Dec-26-07 12:41 PM   #27 
        - I know...You've made it abundently clear that....  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:43 PM   #28 
           - no. I've said you use sexist language and you can't possibly understand  cali   Dec-26-07 12:47 PM   #35 
              - Seems like telling a man he can't possibly understand what he may not experience  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:59 PM   #48 
                 - bullshit. I can't fully understand what it's like to be a person of color  cali   Dec-26-07 01:03 PM   # 
                    - ..In your opinion  Armstead   Dec-26-07 01:07 PM   #53 
                    - it's not about rhetoric or dogma. It's about a double standard  cali   Dec-26-07 01:12 PM   #57 
                       - I don't like Hillary as a presidential candidate  Armstead   Dec-26-07 01:19 PM   #60 
                    - So, you can understand different conditions  havocmom   Dec-26-07 01:10 PM   #55 
                       - He demonstrates repeatedly that he doesn't understand at all.  cali   Dec-26-07 01:14 PM   #58 
                          - Not agreeing with some people is not the same as not understanding  havocmom   Dec-26-07 04:05 PM   #77 
  - The truth is, she wouldn't even be in any kind of running for President if...  LakeSamish706   Dec-26-07 12:34 PM   #13 
  - And we have our winner!  havocmom   Dec-26-07 12:36 PM   #17 
  - I wasn't going to say that....but....  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:37 PM   #21 
  - really?  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 12:40 PM   #26 
     - It's not ridiculous at all, the only reason she is in the running is name recognition.. nothing else  LakeSamish706   Dec-26-07 12:45 PM   #30 
        - sorry  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 12:47 PM   #34 
        - She's a 1 1/2 term Senator  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:51 PM   #38 
        - But you have no problems with Edwards or Obama?  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 12:53 PM   #41 
        - It's not because she's a woman  Armstead   Dec-26-07 01:03 PM   #51 
           - no. you have no problem with Edwards brief and less than illustrious  cali   Dec-26-07 01:17 PM   #59 
           - Did you even bother to read the post you responded to?  Armstead   Dec-26-07 01:20 PM   #61 
           - doesn't answer my question  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 01:45 PM   #63 
              - I'm not thrilled at the length of their Senmate careers either  Armstead   Dec-26-07 02:35 PM   #65 
                 - so then basically  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 04:29 PM   #82 
        - I'd vote for Boxer  unapatriciated   Dec-26-07 04:29 PM   #83 
        - Yeah, on name recognition again... I'm talking about her Senate run...  LakeSamish706   Dec-26-07 12:52 PM   #39 
           - I don't see why.  maddiejoan   Dec-26-07 12:54 PM   #43 
        - If she had not married Bill Clinton she would have run  DURHAM D   Dec-28-07 11:02 AM   #98 
  - faulty premise - you are stating YOUR view, not hers and blaming her for it nt  msongs   Dec-26-07 12:34 PM   #14 
  - We all state our views here  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:36 PM   #20 
     - And that is the exact truth, even if her supporters do not like to admit it. n/t  LakeSamish706   Dec-26-07 12:38 PM   #24 
  - Wheres the person that argued Hillary can't be President because of the 22 Amendment?  William769   Dec-26-07 12:39 PM   #25 
  - It's too bad it doesn't apply to married couples or sons  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:44 PM   #29 
  - Man do I see a split personality in this thread!  William769   Dec-26-07 12:45 PM   #31 
     - "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:54 PM   #42 
     - Funny...  ElboRuum   Dec-26-07 12:56 PM   #45 
     - Yep...  ElboRuum   Dec-26-07 12:55 PM   #44 
  - A tombstone has been erected in his honor. n/t  ElizabethDC   Dec-26-07 02:52 PM   #67 
  - I recall the criticism heaped on Geraldine Ferraro for not taking her husband's name  classof56   Dec-26-07 12:46 PM   #32 
  - Perhaps they thought her last name was too similar to that of a Japanese cult hero.  Benhurst   Dec-26-07 12:47 PM   #33 
  - She isn't running as "Clinton for President in '08" - It's "Hillary". So she made her choice.  wlucinda   Dec-26-07 12:49 PM   #36 
  - Maybe Bobby Kennedy should have taken his wife's name... shown he was his own man and all that.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-26-07 12:49 PM   #37 
  - Maybe you aren't...  ElboRuum   Dec-26-07 12:52 PM   #40 
  - Not a big deal but it would indicate a willingness to...  Armstead   Dec-26-07 12:56 PM   #46 
     - Well, that's a bit on the side of practical impossibility...  ElboRuum   Dec-26-07 01:03 PM   #50 
        - You make a good point  Armstead   Dec-26-07 01:10 PM   #56 
  - FEMINISM is about CHOICE, Not Your Opinion about what a Woman or Man should name her or himself !  terisan   Dec-26-07 12:58 PM   #47 
  - good post. thanks. n/t  cali   Dec-26-07 01:03 PM   #52 
  - Amen  seasonedblue   Dec-26-07 01:09 PM   #54 
  - Exactly. That's always been my view about feminism, too.  ElizabethDC   Dec-26-07 02:54 PM   #69 
  - Duh, I know it's a choice  Armstead   Dec-26-07 03:46 PM   #74 
  - Just what I was going to write.  Sparkly   Dec-26-07 04:16 PM   #79 
  - She made a choice.  JohnnyLib2   Dec-26-07 01:00 PM   #49 
  - I thought you haters would take a break from all your Hillary bitching.  cat_girl25   Dec-26-07 01:44 PM   #62 
  - Golly lets put Obama down as Oprah then  Bitwit1234   Dec-26-07 01:52 PM   #64 
  - Because THAT'S NOT HER NAME!  chascarrillo   Dec-26-07 02:53 PM   #68 
  - Is Obama running as Barack Hussein Obama Jr.?  CyberPieHole   Dec-26-07 03:03 PM   #70 
  - Since middle names are so popular with the Clinton campaign  SOS   Dec-28-07 11:13 AM   #99 
  - She isn't running as a feminist or as an independent woman. She's running as a Democrat.  mtnsnake   Dec-26-07 03:03 PM   #71 
  - Yeah. And why doesn't she stop wearing mascara? that's just bowing to patriarchy.  orangepeel68   Dec-26-07 03:04 PM   #72 
  - Skirts, too.  Sparkly   Dec-28-07 10:21 AM   #88 
  - She should run as "Mrs. Bill Clinton"  Nailzberg   Dec-26-07 04:01 PM   #76 
  - Yea.  William769   Dec-26-07 04:07 PM   #78 
  - Why should she change her name?  LittleClarkie   Dec-26-07 04:19 PM   #80 
  - She's done it before  Armstead   Dec-28-07 10:22 AM   #90 
  - So every woman who got married and changed her name  lwfern   Dec-26-07 04:29 PM   #81 
  - Bullshit -- Normally it wouldn't matter  Armstead   Dec-28-07 10:21 AM   #89 
     - This sort of "feminism" is bullshit.  lwfern   Dec-28-07 01:58 PM   #104 
  - so YOU get to decide  MonkeyFunk   Dec-26-07 04:31 PM   #84 
  - I don't get to decide nuthin'  Armstead   Dec-28-07 10:19 AM   #87 
  - That's not her name...nt  SaveElmer   Dec-28-07 10:25 AM   #91 
  - This one of the reasons why I will vote for Hillary.  TriMetFan   Dec-28-07 10:39 AM   #92 
  - If he's such a tolerant "progressive,"* why not run as Barack HUSSEIN Obama?  wyldwolf   Dec-28-07 10:43 AM   #93 
  - Because most candidates don't run on their middle name  Armstead   Dec-28-07 10:56 AM   #94 
     - true, and Rodham is Hillary's middle name  wyldwolf   Dec-28-07 11:01 AM   #97 
  - Silly question. What difference does her last name make? Come on.  indie_ana_500   Dec-28-07 10:59 AM   #95 
  - Maybe because Hillary Clinton is her legal name?  slackmaster   Dec-28-07 11:00 AM   #96 
  - Do get up in the morning and say  ronnykmarshall   Dec-28-07 11:23 AM   #100 
  - As a married woman, the marriage is what's relevant, not what name you use  wishlist   Dec-28-07 11:37 AM   #101 
  - In Arkansas in 1978  ArkySue   Dec-28-07 01:00 PM   #102 
  - Sexist flame bait OP  MethuenProgressive   Dec-28-07 01:02 PM   #103 
  - Is keeping one's maiden name...  LanternWaste   Dec-28-07 02:10 PM   #105 
 

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