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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:17 AM
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102. I don't really give a crap what Republicans want....
*I* don't want Hillary, and one of the major reasons is she is much TOO cooperative with the Republican party platform. Sure she votes left (or what passes for "left") on a lot of issues, but those are the sort of half measures and small agenda items that allow her to pass for "progressive" when she is unwilling to take a principled stand on one of the big issues of the day.

Of course the Republicans don't like her, she's a DEMOCRAT! but the fact that she's a Democrat that Republicans don't like is not reason enough for me to vote for her.

In other words, the same qualities that make her a bad nominee for the Democrats are what make her a good nominee for the Republicans - they are two sides of the same coin, but just because I refuse to vote for Hillary (in the primaries - we'll see about the GE) on this basis does not mean I am basing my vote on the opinions of Republicans. What is bad for Democrats is good for Republicans and vice-versa! I am refusing to vote for hillary not because I precieve her as good for Republicans, but because I precieve her as bad for Democrats - though (again) it is two sides of the same coin.
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  -The real reason the Republicans fear Hillary Clinton NewHampster  Dec-24-07 12:08 PM   #0 
  - Didn't check with the many women who registered to vote so they could vote AGAINST her , did ya?  saracat   Dec-24-07 12:12 PM   #1 
  - The Reactions Of 'G.O.P. Women', Ma'am, Will Certainly Surprise You  The Magistrate   Dec-24-07 12:16 PM   #2 
  - You are correct. I have already heard conservative women say they will not  Alamom   Dec-24-07 12:34 PM   #13 
     - I heard the same things last week, Alamom..  Tellurian   Dec-24-07 01:10 PM   #40 
     - Really? Would you believe I don't have ONE FRIEND  JeanGrey   Dec-26-07 01:45 AM   #90 
        - that's ok. I have plenty of friends who will more than make up for it.  wyldwolf   Dec-26-07 08:38 AM   #97 
           - I'm not sure that is such a good thing.  JeanGrey   Dec-26-07 09:45 PM   #108 
  - Link to your statistics, sara?  MethuenProgressive   Dec-24-07 12:18 PM   #5 
  - never  ccpup   Dec-24-07 12:28 PM   #8 
  - What hatred? The only hatred I see is from a cretain group!  saracat   Dec-25-07 12:20 AM   #67 
     - Translation: No statistics forthcoming  niceypoo   Dec-25-07 11:40 AM   #78 
     - Why bother? It wasn't that kind of a post and when I post links they are ignored  saracat   Dec-25-07 01:12 PM   #80 
     - Link? Or is it just anecdotal evidence pulled out of your...  CyberPieHole   Dec-25-07 10:00 PM   #84 
  - Oh come now!  ronnykmarshall   Dec-24-07 01:20 PM   #48 
  - will they all fit in your car?  wyldwolf   Dec-26-07 08:37 AM   #96 
  - Women will break 65 : 35 for Hillary  dugggy   Dec-26-07 11:30 AM   #104 
  - "Hillary Rodham Clinton is the greatest threat the GOP has ever faced. She is a Woman."  MethuenProgressive   Dec-24-07 12:16 PM   #3 
  - I'd rather see a Real Woman cause the GOP to fear  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:17 PM   #4 
  - But if she is the nominee  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 12:20 PM   #6 
  - Holding my nose to keep the GOP out, yes  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:30 PM   #11 
  - Thank you fellow Democrat  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 12:38 PM   #16 
     - Cheers!  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:44 PM   #21 
  - not a chance  maxanne   Dec-25-07 10:24 PM   #85 
  - you obviously know nothing about Hillary  ccpup   Dec-24-07 12:30 PM   #9 
  - I have and I stand by my point  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:35 PM   #15 
     - Hillary  indimuse   Dec-24-07 01:07 PM   #36 
     - She might be viable but...  Armstead   Dec-24-07 01:19 PM   #47 
        - Name them. She put herself out there  sallyseven   Dec-25-07 12:00 PM   #79 
           - Excuse me?  Nedsdag   Dec-25-07 05:48 PM   #82 
     - Really? millions of women graduated from Yale law school....  annie1   Dec-25-07 10:42 PM   #88 
  - I honestly don't think people recognize what a sexist phrase that  cali   Dec-24-07 12:30 PM   #10 
     - she was much more successful  ccpup   Dec-24-07 12:34 PM   #14 
     - She was successful practicing corporate law  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:42 PM   #20 
     - Since when is JE's experience as a plaintiff's lawyer discounted?  cali   Dec-24-07 12:51 PM   #23 
     - The poster above cited her law career....  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:54 PM   #28 
     - I never brought up Edwards or Obama  ccpup   Dec-24-07 12:53 PM   #27 
        - I'm not arguing that she did  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:59 PM   #31 
           - yep. you are clueless about your own sexism. n/t  cali   Dec-24-07 01:05 PM   #35 
           - Most people who know me in real would disagree with you  Armstead   Dec-24-07 01:16 PM   #46 
              - I don't think you recognize that you're doing it and I think you mean well  cali   Dec-24-07 01:21 PM   #49 
           - Whoa now...  Jai4WKC08   Dec-24-07 01:45 PM   #51 
              - "...she won by a very large margin the second time, including in districts that are traditionally  NCevilDUer   Dec-24-07 03:48 PM   #61 
                 - Perhaps, but that's not the point  Jai4WKC08   Dec-24-07 06:21 PM   #64 
                    - I never said she never accomplished anything on her own  Armstead   Dec-26-07 08:25 AM   #95 
     - Strawman.  NCevilDUer   Dec-24-07 01:09 PM   #38 
     - I'd say the same about GW Bush  Armstead   Dec-24-07 12:40 PM   #19 
        - same as **?  ccpup   Dec-24-07 12:55 PM   #30 
           - Bush was a governor  Armstead   Dec-24-07 01:01 PM   #32 
  - Repubs don't fear Hillary -- they can't wait for her to be our nominee.  GOPBasher   Dec-24-07 12:24 PM   #7 
  - I got a thread shut down for merely asking  themartyred   Dec-24-07 12:40 PM   #18 
  - Thank you.  GOPBasher   Dec-24-07 12:51 PM   #24 
  - you JUST named my 2 faves from 04!  themartyred   Dec-24-07 12:54 PM   #29 
  - What a crock of shit. You posted blatantly ugly, lying flamebait  cali   Dec-24-07 12:53 PM   #26 
  - Oh gimme an effin break. Here is why you got your thread shut down:  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 01:07 PM   #37 
  - Exactly.  Yael   Dec-24-07 02:44 PM   #59 
  - The hooker vote--I love it!  Elspeth   Dec-24-07 12:32 PM   #12 
  - They are the Invisible masses  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 12:39 PM   #17 
     - I'll bet they are.  Elspeth   Dec-25-07 02:31 AM   #69 
  - You nailed it, NH. Not only do they fear women, but a smart woman is their worst fucking nightmare.  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 12:48 PM   #22 
  - They really really fear  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 12:52 PM   #25 
     - LOL  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 01:02 PM   #33 
  - 90% of Hillary's supporters have never participated in an internet political forum.  Rock_Garden   Dec-24-07 01:02 PM   #34 
  - Ain't that the truth, RG  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 01:12 PM   #42 
     - We also wouldn't be in Iraq, and Bush wouldn't be the president  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-25-07 10:56 AM   #74 
  - Recent Zogby poll shows that she loses to all the top GOP candidates. nm  TeamJordan23   Dec-24-07 01:10 PM   #39 
  - All your polls always have her losing just about everything  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 01:13 PM   #43 
  - Did Zogby poll the hookers and strippers  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 02:07 PM   #52 
  - if the leaders of the world were women...there would be less wars...  Sancho   Dec-24-07 01:11 PM   #41 
  - I agree. nt  mtnsnake   Dec-24-07 01:15 PM   #44 
  - We make war to preserve our "way of life"  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-25-07 11:12 AM   #75 
     - I'm sure that there are women who would fight wars...  Sancho   Dec-26-07 09:16 AM   #98 
        - Of course there are women who would fight wars!  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-26-07 10:58 AM   #100 
           - dressing alike was just meant as humor...  Sancho   Dec-26-07 11:07 AM   #101 
              - Well if you had a choice between, say, Dennis Kucinich and Hillary Clinton  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-26-07 11:26 AM   #103 
  - You're sexist...  Caseman   Dec-24-07 01:16 PM   #45 
  - Tell me where I said that?  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 02:08 PM   #53 
     - Said it?  Caseman   Dec-25-07 05:09 PM   #81 
  - The history books will say "ground-breaking" political figure.  JohnnyLib2   Dec-24-07 01:22 PM   #50 
  - You are right. This is one of those moments in history  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 02:10 PM   #55 
  - What I'd like to see Hillary do to a certain right wing jackass  ChipperbackDemocrat   Dec-24-07 02:11 PM   #57 
  - You meant to type "want" instead of "fear", right.  Carrieyazel   Dec-24-07 02:10 PM   #54 
  - I meant fear and you know it but maybe you can't read  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 02:11 PM   #56 
  - *YAWN*  Yael   Dec-24-07 02:43 PM   #58 
  - I could use a cup of coffee too  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 02:51 PM   #60 
  - When I read a post like yours  kad7777   Dec-24-07 04:15 PM   #62 
  - Sorry to frighten you with the truth  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 05:03 PM   #63 
  - Geez Kad...1 through 12 is all about Hillary...  hayu_lol   Dec-24-07 06:52 PM   #65 
     - Nice and Happy winter solstice  NewHampster   Dec-24-07 09:25 PM   #66 
  - I hope you are right. Here's the reason I worry about a Clinton nom:  thecatburgler   Dec-25-07 01:29 AM   #68 
  - The rethugs will always try to make it about anything but issues  NewHampster   Dec-25-07 09:11 AM   #71 
  - Hillary is the best candidate. Period.  oasis   Dec-25-07 06:02 AM   #70 
  - Amen  NewHampster   Dec-25-07 09:11 AM   #72 
  - up to 25% of GOP women WILL vote for Hillary  4dsc   Dec-25-07 10:03 AM   #73 
  - A post of EXCELLENT QUALITY  I was just saying...   Dec-25-07 11:18 AM   #76 
  - thank you for that  NewHampster   Dec-25-07 09:21 PM   #83 
  - And more than just GOP members fear her for being a woman......  annie1   Dec-25-07 11:39 AM   #77 
  - that's one way  maxanne   Dec-25-07 10:31 PM   #86 
     - no, i can see many reasons for not supporting her, but so many...  annie1   Dec-25-07 10:34 PM   #87 
  - Im an staunch Biden supporter, but there is some truth in what say. n/t  Didereaux   Dec-25-07 11:02 PM   #89 
  - I too think Joe is great but I think the wman vote trumps  NewHampster   Dec-26-07 06:02 AM   #91 
  - Bu-bu-but the anti-Hillary people have told me over and over again that the Republicans WANT Hillary  Perry Logan   Dec-26-07 06:11 AM   #92 
  - Because the rethugs have drilled it into their subconcious  NewHampster   Dec-26-07 09:41 AM   #99 
  - I don't really give a crap what Republicans want....  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-26-07 11:17 AM   #102 
  - It's to late to r this, so I will just give it a K!  William769   Dec-26-07 06:54 AM   #93 
  - thanks  NewHampster   Dec-26-07 07:32 AM   #94 
  - Think what a boost it will be for America's daughters.  gulliver   Dec-26-07 12:08 PM   #105 
  - My daughter will be so proud and forward looking  NewHampster   Dec-26-07 02:28 PM   #106 
  - Kick for women  NewHampster   Dec-26-07 05:52 PM   #107 

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