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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 03:14 PM
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33. I agree with your analysis 100%. In the past, I've even sympathised with a
bona fide progressive Duer who said she might not even vote, just to see the country brought to its knees and the Republicans totally, definitively discredited. Simply because of the DINOs still thwarting the bona fide Democratic party. Trouble is, it's a luxury most people (who are not already homeless or dying of medical neglect) could not afford even in the short term, living so close to unemployment and economic ruin.

Now, however, such a dire "loss leader" ploy no longer seems necessary, in any case. The Republicans have already brought the country to the brink of economic ruin - a brink moreover leading to a descent which can no longer be avoided, by the look of it. Cartoon characters may run over the edge of a cliff and backtrack in a hurry, but not the rest of us.

Your framing of the matter, however, imo, provides a brilliant focus on the sovereign priority and the explanation of the need for its thoroughgoing prioritisation: a total rout of the Republicans at the polls; a total massacre. Without it, the power of the MSM will remain bent on its current sinister ends, more perjurious now than ever before. Every effort must be made to make it even harder for the Republicans to subvert the elections results than the last time, when the landslide Democratic win was again denied them. Your posts are always an education. Thank you.

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  -I guess my priorities are vastly different than those of many here jpgray  Dec-22-07 01:08 PM   #0 
  - Hear, hear....  NYCALIZ   Dec-22-07 01:10 PM   #1 
  - The easiest way to discredit them...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-22-07 01:13 PM   #3 
  - The problem is, so long as the GOP has sizable political power getting the truth out is difficult  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:38 PM   #8 
     - So very true  ColbertWatcher   Dec-22-07 09:11 PM   #29 
        - Ambitious or power-hungry Dems see the benefits of such influence, and want it  jpgray   Dec-23-07 02:39 PM   #31 
           - But, we do...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-24-07 01:49 AM   #34 
              - Represented in a candidate, I mean  jpgray   Dec-24-07 11:13 PM   #35 
                 - But...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-25-07 01:47 AM   #37 
  - That will never happen until the corporate media is dissolved  Kucinich4America   Dec-22-07 01:43 PM   #13 
  - I'm In Complete Agreement...  Steely_Dan   Dec-22-07 01:12 PM   #2 
  - Seconded. n/t  Jim4Wes   Dec-22-07 01:13 PM   #4 
  - Great post. K&R  Kahuna   Dec-22-07 01:16 PM   #5 
  - I don't think we'll see a real stomping until..  SecularMotion   Dec-22-07 01:20 PM   #6 
  - The presumed method of voter theft is so difficult to prove  jpgray   Dec-22-07 03:08 PM   #26 
  - That's where I'm at but you said it wonderfully well. n/t  cali   Dec-22-07 01:20 PM   #7 
  - You could have made your (very articulate) point without being snide about others here.  DemItAllAnyway   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #9 
  - You're right, that was probably a bit too broad-brush  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:46 PM   #14 
  - yep  enigmatic   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #10 
  - If I and others are correct,  femrap   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #11 
  - You're right about hitting them (us) in the pocketbook to wake them (us) up,  gateley   Dec-22-07 01:47 PM   #16 
     - I remember that....  femrap   Dec-22-07 06:48 PM   #28 
  - You got it  ruggerson   Dec-22-07 01:40 PM   #12 
  - You set a false dichotomy  Armstead   Dec-22-07 01:47 PM   #15 
  - Progressive candidacies were tried many times. In all cases, they were marginalized and destroyed  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:54 PM   #17 
     - In most recent cases they were marginalized by Democrats themselves  Armstead   Dec-22-07 02:07 PM   #21 
        - What defines the "Democratic Elite" to many? Bush-lite? DINO?  jpgray   Dec-22-07 02:15 PM   #22 
           - That's why the coming election and primaries are important  Armstead   Dec-22-07 03:17 PM   #27 
           - I'll step in it, if you like. :-P Edwards is my pick of the major crop  jpgray   Dec-22-07 10:38 PM   #30 
           - I agree with your analysis 100%. In the past, I've even sympathised with a  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-23-07 03:14 PM   #33 
  - That's very admirable and  zidzi   Dec-22-07 01:56 PM   #18 
  - This post only concerns the GE--should have made that clear. In the primary, Dodd or Dennis for me  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:58 PM   #19 
     - Yes, Edwards term in the  zidzi   Dec-22-07 02:18 PM   #23 
        - Absolutely. It's nice to see someone from those ol' days. :-P  jpgray   Dec-22-07 02:22 PM   #24 
           - Backatcha,  zidzi   Dec-22-07 02:46 PM   #25 
  - K&R  DeepModem Mom   Dec-22-07 02:06 PM   #20 
  - Defeat of the Republicans, especially the executive branch  mmonk   Dec-23-07 02:45 PM   #32 
     - There needs to be an "airing of grievances" without question, and they cross party lines  jpgray   Dec-24-07 11:14 PM   #36 
        - Gray, we agree on one thing: We want the GOP machine crushed and junked...  hayu_lol   Dec-25-07 06:43 AM   #38 

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