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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 01:08 PM
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I guess my priorities are vastly different than those of many here
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Edited on Sat Dec-22-07 01:11 PM by jpgray
My be-all end-all goal is not to have a little avatar that parrots my particular views on every issue. If I did desire this, I would never be satisfied. Even Kucinich has the flag amendment vote, the vote on recognizing Christianity as a fundamental influence on the founding and greatness of this country, etc. The next closest to matching my views would be Dodd, yet still I can find quibbles that would make his platform far less robust in economic reform than I'd like. The two are however superlatively great as far as platform and earnest hard work in Congress. Certainly compared to other candidates.

My priority is very simple. I've considered all the GOP candidates and all the Democratic candidates, and all I want is to defeat the GOP nominee as completely and fully as possible. Why?

What killed the "Democratic wing of the Democratic party?" Reagan's landslide victories and the resultant consolidation of media and system influence under his GOP banner. He then used this to isolate and destroy progressive sympathy in the media and in the money centers of politics by providing a policy-for-influence tradeoff that is absolutely irresistible in our massively money-fueled national office campaigns.

What has empowered progressive reforms in the past over the profound obstacle of business and media interest in right wing economic policies? Landslide defeats of the GOP. The New Deal simply would not have been possible if a significant amount of holdout GOP strength remained.

So I simply want to hand the GOP a similar crushing defeat. A complete, lasting, inarguable defeat that any fool can hold up as proof that the conservative ideology has failed. If they don't have any significant clout in political office to return their end of the corrupt deal, they cannot win the biased and selfish support of the media and other power brokers. So long as they maintain that influence and power, no true progressive has a shot.

There's no Democrat running who would severely limit my desire to see a total GOP defeat. I don't expect to see my ideology realized in a major candidate in this atmosphere. I -can- expect to see the party which most represents the villainous and depraved ideology that has a stranglehold on our government to be defeated.

And I want it to be as permanent, embarrassing, and complete a defeat as possible. And to me that's worth working for. If the Democratic nominee doesn't represent the best in politics (and it won't), I will have no avenue to advance the best ideas to high office. The GOP -does- and -will- represent the worst in politics, and is the de-facto symbol for the worst problems on both sides of the aisle. And I am committed to handing them the worst defeat possible.



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  -I guess my priorities are vastly different than those of many here jpgray  Dec-22-07 01:08 PM   #0 
  - Hear, hear....  NYCALIZ   Dec-22-07 01:10 PM   #1 
  - The easiest way to discredit them...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-22-07 01:13 PM   #3 
  - The problem is, so long as the GOP has sizable political power getting the truth out is difficult  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:38 PM   #8 
     - So very true  ColbertWatcher   Dec-22-07 09:11 PM   #29 
        - Ambitious or power-hungry Dems see the benefits of such influence, and want it  jpgray   Dec-23-07 02:39 PM   #31 
           - But, we do...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-24-07 01:49 AM   #34 
              - Represented in a candidate, I mean  jpgray   Dec-24-07 11:13 PM   #35 
                 - But...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-25-07 01:47 AM   #37 
  - That will never happen until the corporate media is dissolved  Kucinich4America   Dec-22-07 01:43 PM   #13 
  - I'm In Complete Agreement...  Steely_Dan   Dec-22-07 01:12 PM   #2 
  - Seconded. n/t  Jim4Wes   Dec-22-07 01:13 PM   #4 
  - Great post. K&R  Kahuna   Dec-22-07 01:16 PM   #5 
  - I don't think we'll see a real stomping until..  SecularMotion   Dec-22-07 01:20 PM   #6 
  - The presumed method of voter theft is so difficult to prove  jpgray   Dec-22-07 03:08 PM   #26 
  - That's where I'm at but you said it wonderfully well. n/t  cali   Dec-22-07 01:20 PM   #7 
  - You could have made your (very articulate) point without being snide about others here.  DemItAllAnyway   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #9 
  - You're right, that was probably a bit too broad-brush  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:46 PM   #14 
  - yep  enigmatic   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #10 
  - If I and others are correct,  femrap   Dec-22-07 01:39 PM   #11 
  - You're right about hitting them (us) in the pocketbook to wake them (us) up,  gateley   Dec-22-07 01:47 PM   #16 
     - I remember that....  femrap   Dec-22-07 06:48 PM   #28 
  - You got it  ruggerson   Dec-22-07 01:40 PM   #12 
  - You set a false dichotomy  Armstead   Dec-22-07 01:47 PM   #15 
  - Progressive candidacies were tried many times. In all cases, they were marginalized and destroyed  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:54 PM   #17 
     - In most recent cases they were marginalized by Democrats themselves  Armstead   Dec-22-07 02:07 PM   #21 
        - What defines the "Democratic Elite" to many? Bush-lite? DINO?  jpgray   Dec-22-07 02:15 PM   #22 
           - That's why the coming election and primaries are important  Armstead   Dec-22-07 03:17 PM   #27 
           - I'll step in it, if you like. :-P Edwards is my pick of the major crop  jpgray   Dec-22-07 10:38 PM   #30 
           - I agree with your analysis 100%. In the past, I've even sympathised with a  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-23-07 03:14 PM   #33 
  - That's very admirable and  zidzi   Dec-22-07 01:56 PM   #18 
  - This post only concerns the GE--should have made that clear. In the primary, Dodd or Dennis for me  jpgray   Dec-22-07 01:58 PM   #19 
     - Yes, Edwards term in the  zidzi   Dec-22-07 02:18 PM   #23 
        - Absolutely. It's nice to see someone from those ol' days. :-P  jpgray   Dec-22-07 02:22 PM   #24 
           - Backatcha,  zidzi   Dec-22-07 02:46 PM   #25 
  - K&R  DeepModem Mom   Dec-22-07 02:06 PM   #20 
  - Defeat of the Republicans, especially the executive branch  mmonk   Dec-23-07 02:45 PM   #32 
     - There needs to be an "airing of grievances" without question, and they cross party lines  jpgray   Dec-24-07 11:14 PM   #36 
        - Gray, we agree on one thing: We want the GOP machine crushed and junked...  hayu_lol   Dec-25-07 06:43 AM   #38 
 

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