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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 11:37 AM
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17. Why is is again that anyone old enough to use a keyboard
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 11:41 AM by Tom Rinaldo
can launch or use a preexisting web site to make real or distorted attacks against the record of any political figure that they want, and that is kosher, but an actual candidate can not even register a domain name for a site that suggests it will examine voting records of opponents without that on it's face being a horrible indictment of that candidate which seemingly makes them unfit to hold public office?

Look at the front page of DU GD-P, any time, any day, and this joint is littered with threads focused on attacking the records or one or more candidates, with attacks on Hillary Clinton's record generously (to say the least) represented. Are people saying that also is slimy but since it's only us doing it then it doesn't matter? Or are people claiming instead that what is done on web sites like DU every minute of every day is positively contributing to the public debate about our candidates?

I get the distinct impression that folks here think when we do it we are righteously shedding light on important aspects of the careers of candidates who we strongly believe do not deserve our support. And we do it with impunity. We use the web to call candidates liars and Republican enablers and whores and corporate pawns and empty suits and anything else we want to throw out there, and it is called free speech and democracy in action. But should a candidate who actually is running for office attempt use the internet to focus attention on aspects of an opponents record that they find questionable: OMG that bitch or bastard!

It's time for the blogosphere to grow up. Either we are a real part of politics in America, or we are a bunch of nobodies killing time next to a virtual water cooler. Either what we do with our use of the internet is defensible or it is slimy. Why should the candidates themselves be barred from using the internet to raise issues about the literal voting records of opponents (in a manner 1/10th as inflammatory as many threads here I might add) as the blogs we post on internet web sites every day?
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  -Clinton launches negative attack websites!!! mckeown1128  Dec-20-07 11:03 AM   #0 
  - HAM  Bleachers7   Dec-20-07 11:04 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, she should just bake a cookie.  aquart   Dec-20-07 11:07 AM   #4 
     - ObamaNation decides: Blame Obama's History on Hillary!!  MethuenProgressive   Dec-20-07 01:10 PM   #44 
  - Criticizing his voting record is fair game.  Connie_Corleone   Dec-20-07 11:06 AM   #2 
  - which is perfectly fine  wyldwolf   Dec-20-07 11:06 AM   #3 
  - "Attacked" Obama for his record?  TwilightZone   Dec-20-07 11:09 AM   #5 
  - How many of these threads with the same topic do we need?  suston96   Dec-20-07 11:10 AM   #6 
  - I think your voting record is as legitimate an attack as can possibly exist.  Occam Bandage   Dec-20-07 11:12 AM   #7 
  - Yes, but this is NOT simply attacking his voting record...  TwoSparkles   Dec-20-07 11:29 AM   #15 
     - Yeah, I think a failure to pin down your position through your votes is cowardly.  Occam Bandage   Dec-20-07 11:43 AM   #23 
     - Where has Clinton called Obama a "coward" or "cowardly"?  MGKrebs   Dec-20-07 11:43 AM   #24 
  - Where are they!!!???  Skip Intro   Dec-20-07 11:14 AM   #8 
  - I am shocked!  BobRossi   Dec-20-07 11:17 AM   #9 
  - At least this will help her lose Iowa...  TwoSparkles   Dec-20-07 11:20 AM   #10 
  - TwoSparkles-  asdjrocky   Dec-20-07 11:24 AM   #11 
  - lol  durrrty libby   Dec-20-07 11:51 AM   #32 
  - Laughing at people?  asdjrocky   Dec-20-07 11:58 AM   #35 
  - For the record- the attacks (so far) do not exist. OK?  MGKrebs   Dec-20-07 11:54 AM   #33 
  - .  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-20-07 12:10 PM   #40 
  - And I believe advising her is Mark Penn of B&M-  asdjrocky   Dec-20-07 11:26 AM   #12 
  - How can Hillary be so ignorant?  TwoSparkles   Dec-20-07 11:36 AM   #16 
     - With all due respect to you and your state,  Beacool   Dec-20-07 11:54 AM   #34 
        - It's not about me or my state...  TwoSparkles   Dec-21-07 10:35 AM   #47 
  - It is a shame that the Iowans cannot see past the distortions.  Evergreen Emerald   Dec-20-07 11:28 AM   #14 
     - There is nothing wrong with it. The Hater Hysteria is in overdrive  durrrty libby   Dec-20-07 11:40 AM   #19 
  - Hillary 44 has seemed pretty coordinated with them  karynnj   Dec-20-07 11:26 AM   #13 
  - That is complete BullShit.  durrrty libby   Dec-20-07 11:48 AM   #28 
  - Why is is again that anyone old enough to use a keyboard  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-20-07 11:37 AM   #17 
  - Poor Barack doesn't want anyone looking at his record...  SaveElmer   Dec-20-07 11:38 AM   #18 
  - this won't be good for her and will only make her slide  loveangelc   Dec-20-07 11:41 AM   #20 
  - That is silly, makes no sense and is a rather dimwitted conclusion  durrrty libby   Dec-20-07 11:51 AM   #31 
     - You're silly and dimwitted if you believe it wouldn't hurt her in Iowa n/t  loveangelc   Dec-20-07 01:05 PM   #42 
  - So? BHObama decided to take the gloves off when he was behind in the polls...  CyberPieHole   Dec-20-07 11:41 AM   #21 
  - Yeah. Let's compare voting records  Capn Sunshine   Dec-20-07 11:41 AM   #22 
  - Obama's voting record in the Senate is no better than Clinton's.  Occam Bandage   Dec-20-07 11:43 AM   #26 
     - We'll let the public be the judge of that  Capn Sunshine   Dec-20-07 11:46 AM   #27 
        - What can you point to?  Occam Bandage   Dec-20-07 11:50 AM   #30 
  - Don't you know..Obama is "THE ONE"..  KennedyGuy   Dec-20-07 11:43 AM   #25 
  - Ok. - I'll light a candle for forgiveness.  emilyg   Dec-20-07 01:02 PM   #41 
  - Ah, I remember the day when Hillary said she wouldn't attack other candidates  zulchzulu   Dec-20-07 11:48 AM   #29 
  - Oh, I see, she was supposed to simply roll over an play the role  Beacool   Dec-20-07 11:59 AM   #36 
     - What Hillary says one day may be contradictory the next day  zulchzulu   Dec-20-07 12:01 PM   #37 
        - Stop - you don't speak for me.  DURHAM D   Dec-20-07 05:34 PM   #46 
           - Hear, hear!!!  Beacool   Dec-21-07 11:34 AM   #48 
  - Misleading bullshit, as usual  killbotfactory   Dec-20-07 12:03 PM   #38 
  - Not.  MGKrebs   Dec-20-07 04:34 PM   #45 
  - funny thing in the article...  pgh_dem   Dec-20-07 12:07 PM   #39 
  - Why are all FACTS about Obama's past called "negative"?  MethuenProgressive   Dec-20-07 01:09 PM   #43 

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