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Response to Reply #209
210. Maybe because some of us GLBT democrats are still hurt by Obama's
allowing a spiritual terrorist on stage at his event? Do you have any idea what kind of damage this does to an individual? When your religion tells you you need to change something as basic as who you love or you will go to hell that is dangerous and harmful - I grew up in an anti-gay church and Im still recovering from the damage. Obama never apologized - so Im guessing he does not see the very real harm and hurt he is responsible for. Obama needs to address this now or many many GLBT people will never forget or forgive.
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  -Why do Obama supporters give him a free pass on his endorsement of Homophobic Hate Speech? dbackjon  Dec-18-07 02:56 PM   #0 
  - And a second Oooooo...  flvegan   Dec-18-07 02:57 PM   #1 
  - Not that again... I don't think he endorses it, btw. nt  thereismore   Dec-18-07 02:57 PM   #2 
  - It was just a "calculation", why are so you "hung up" over it?  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 02:58 PM   #3 
  - The same reason that  redqueen   Dec-18-07 02:58 PM   #4 
  - Good answer  maximusveritas   Dec-18-07 03:01 PM   #8 
  - Thanks.  redqueen   Dec-18-07 03:02 PM   #11 
  - You stop talking sense right this minute  BOSSHOG   Dec-18-07 03:02 PM   #10 
  - Sorry...  redqueen   Dec-18-07 03:04 PM   #17 
  - Sorry Boss...  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 03:05 PM   #20 
     - Hey My Friend  BOSSHOG   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #30 
        - And all the best of the season back to you, my friend!  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 03:10 PM   #37 
  - Would you support a candidate who hired an MC who talked about the "Negro curse?"  ruggerson   Dec-18-07 09:01 PM   #98 
  - I'm waiting for Michael Jackson to headline a campaign event where he proclaims  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:56 PM   #127 
  - We're children of a lesser God  VarnettaTuckpocket   Dec-21-07 02:27 AM   #168 
  - Thank you.  Nedsdag   Dec-18-07 11:02 PM   #138 
  - I'm insulted by your answer. The comparison of your examples from the other candidates to the  farmboy   Dec-21-07 10:06 PM   #197 
  - Well stated,,,,  WCGreen   Dec-22-07 01:56 AM   #204 
  - For one, he didn't endorse it  maximusveritas   Dec-18-07 02:59 PM   #5 
  - No, this is the issue that Obama supporters refuse to acknowledge  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:02 PM   #9 
     - He didn't give him a platform to spew his hatred.  Dawgs   Dec-18-07 03:06 PM   #25 
        - He made him MC - thus giving him a platform....  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:08 PM   #29 
           - Yes - a platform to be an MC, not a preacher  Chulanowa   Dec-18-07 03:33 PM   #55 
              - And the man preached anyway, for 30 minutes  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 01:05 AM   #140 
                 - So, about my other question...  Chulanowa   Dec-19-07 07:00 AM   #142 
                    - TRANSLATION: Shut your traps, you whiny homos and vote Democratic like you oughtta!  FredScuttle   Dec-19-07 03:23 PM   #150 
                    - I agree, it's very insulting. Unfortunately for you, I said nothing of the sort  Chulanowa   Dec-20-07 03:34 AM   #158 
                    - "What are you gonna do, vote Republican ?"  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 04:01 PM   #153 
                    - It doesn't matter. Obama showed he hates us too.  Touchdown   Dec-24-07 11:24 AM   #220 
  - I'm not an Obama supporter  OhioBlues   Dec-18-07 03:00 PM   #6 
  - Why did Hillary appoint homophobes as state chairs?  sandnsea   Dec-18-07 03:00 PM   #7 
  - He refused to condemn/apologize for the hate speech at his event.  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:03 PM   #14 
     - Bullshit  zulchzulu   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #33 
        - Yawn  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:11 PM   #42 
        - And Hillary would yank all her homophobes  sandnsea   Dec-18-07 03:15 PM   #48 
        - Fine. We're brothers and sisters.  maddiejoan   Dec-18-07 03:55 PM   #58 
        - "African American" and "LGBT" are not separate  eridani   Dec-19-07 12:30 AM   #139 
        - Notice this  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 02:00 PM   #145 
           - Excellent point  FredScuttle   Dec-19-07 02:48 PM   #148 
              - Anything to secure his bigot votes  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 03:13 PM   #149 
                 - He was quick to throw the LGBT community under the bus in search of those sweet sweet primary votes  FredScuttle   Dec-19-07 03:28 PM   #151 
                    - Of course they don't  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 04:06 PM   #154 
  - the mcdorking thing was stupid of him to do.  dionysus   Dec-18-07 03:02 PM   #12 
  - Create enough clamor that he apologizes  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:04 PM   #16 
  - Yawn. Not very original, are you. nt  babylonsister   Dec-18-07 03:03 PM   #13 
  - you find EQUAL RIGHTS for all Americans boring?  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:05 PM   #22 
     - No, you're copycatting a thread - can't you come up with something  babylonsister   Dec-18-07 03:07 PM   #27 
        - When Obama apologizes  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:12 PM   #44 
           - Stop whining and tell me who you support; who is without mistakes? nt  babylonsister   Dec-18-07 03:18 PM   #50 
              - I am undecided  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:21 PM   #52 
  - LOL. What grade are you in?  TeamJordan23   Dec-18-07 03:03 PM   #15 
  - Same as all the Obamabots :)  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:05 PM   #24 
  - When did he do that... just asking?  Dawgs   Dec-18-07 03:04 PM   #18 
  - McClurkin fundraiser - just telling.  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:04 PM   #19 
     - So, you are uninformed. Now we know.  Dawgs   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #31 
        - But they defend it to the death  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 09:38 PM   #116 
  - Those in glass houses, etc.  heraldsqure   Dec-18-07 03:05 PM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-07 03:05 PM   #23 
  - Do you post that response on all the similiar anti-Hillary threads?  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:07 PM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-07 03:09 AM   #172 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-07 03:08 PM   #28 
  - Are you that dense?  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #34 
  - Have you not learned about calling people a liar?  William769   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #36 
     - if the liar shoe fits...  dionysus   Dec-18-07 03:10 PM   #38 
        - Heres what happened the last time today he did it.  William769   Dec-18-07 03:12 PM   #43 
           - so you ran to the mods...and your point is?  dionysus   Dec-18-07 03:23 PM   #53 
              - Who said it was me?  William769   Dec-18-07 03:24 PM   #54 
  - Because Homophobia people stick together. NT  William769   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #32 
  - Doesn't Hillary have paid members on her campaign that share anti-gay views?  TeamJordan23   Dec-18-07 03:09 PM   #35 
  - This isn't about Hillary  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:10 PM   #39 
     - Can't answe the question? What is worse, an emcee or PAID members on the campaign?  TeamJordan23   Dec-18-07 03:12 PM   #45 
        - What makes you think I am a Hillary supporter?  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:20 PM   #51 
  - piece of shit flamebait. Just sayin' n/t  cali   Dec-18-07 03:11 PM   #40 
  - Wow - nasty homophobe?  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:13 PM   #46 
     - No. fuck  cali   Dec-18-07 03:44 PM   #57 
     - As tired as those of us who are appalled when a "progressive" candidate gives a bigot  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:40 PM   #77 
     - No, Cali just has this great response when she sees bullshit  LanternWaste   Dec-19-07 03:33 PM   #152 
  - Because most of them haven't considered how caustic  Politicub   Dec-18-07 03:11 PM   #41 
  - Very true  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 03:13 PM   #47 
  - No, it's the hypocrisy  sandnsea   Dec-18-07 03:18 PM   #49 
     - Ex-gays are beyond homophobia, but  Politicub   Dec-19-07 07:29 AM   #143 
  - He doesn't get a free pass. It's just that his public record is quite clearly  beachmom   Dec-18-07 03:36 PM   #56 
  - "but what's been done is done"  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 03:56 PM   #59 
  - Where is ih8thegop in this thread?  Tejanocrat   Dec-18-07 04:11 PM   #60 
  - Maybe because they don't. Hope you enjoy chasing your red herrings.  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 04:24 PM   #61 
  - OK. Documented: Obama hired an "ex-gay" to emcee his S.C. concert.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 05:14 PM   #62 
     - Hello? Hello?  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 07:48 PM   #65 
     - And this equates to "endorsement of homophobic hate speech"? I don't think so.  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 08:16 PM   #67 
        - Yes, you lecture me on "poor form" regarding a public message board.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:35 PM   #73 
        - Suit yourself. Yes it is poor form to demand responses.  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 08:47 PM   #83 
        - I meant it, whoever you are, don't waste your breath.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:47 PM   #84 
           - I thought you put me on "ignore". Apparently not.  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 08:56 PM   #90 
        - That "ex-gay" clown said, from the stage at an Obama event, "God delivered me from homosexuality"  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:37 PM   #75 
           - First of all, failure to apologize is not the same as an "endorsement."  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 08:53 PM   #89 
              - You're kidding, right?  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:57 PM   #92 
                 - No I am not. "Did you just drop in from 1956?". My aren't you the clever one?  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 09:05 PM   #102 
                    - My point being that if anything has marked the past half-century in politics  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:22 PM   #107 
                       - I am not forgetting anything, IMO the practice of demanding apologies from  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 09:35 PM   #113 
                          - Okay, let's try this one of a more recent vintage  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:52 PM   #123 
                             - Apples and oranges. One guy appeared at an event. The other guy was hired on by a campaign.  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 10:11 PM   #131 
                                - Want a reason? How about Obama has not once apologized for featuring this bigot?  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 10:15 PM   #132 
                                   - Stop waving the bloody gay phobe shirt. I am a Dem who abhors bigotry  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 10:25 PM   #134 
                                      - "I am a Dem who abhors bigotry..."  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 10:31 PM   #135 
                                         - Your assertion, your characterization. And I don't have to defend my tolerance credentials to you .  yellowcanine   Dec-18-07 10:40 PM   #136 
                                         - "tolerance credentials"?  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 10:43 PM   #137 
                                         - Thanks to your replies herein we are all in an excellent position to judge your character  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-21-07 10:49 PM   #202 
                                         - Gotta remember that Homophobia is "acceptable" bigotry, because it comes from "faith"...  Solon   Dec-20-07 07:13 PM   #165 
                                            - Yep. We can't question people's deeply held religious beliefs.  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-21-07 01:58 AM   #167 
                                               - That's right - religous bigotry is A-OK  dbackjon   Dec-23-07 04:54 PM   #218 
  - His endorsement of it? Could you point me to where that happened?  TheWraith   Dec-18-07 06:01 PM   #63 
  - You don't, or refuse to get it.  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 06:05 PM   #64 
  - "simply had an artist with questionable views appear on tour"?  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:31 PM   #71 
     - An excellent summary.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:36 PM   #74 
     - Be my guest....  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:42 PM   #78 
        - 'I can only type "ex-gay clown" so many times....'  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:52 PM   #88 
        - hahahaha  LostinVA   Dec-23-07 02:19 PM   #216 
     - Ditto - I want permission to use as well!!  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 09:42 PM   #117 
     - Permission granted  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:54 PM   #125 
     - Don't forget this:  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-19-07 01:37 AM   #141 
        - Every day Obama goes without apologizing for hiring an "ex-gay" clown to spread the hate  FredScuttle   Dec-19-07 08:40 AM   #144 
  - McClurkin endorsed him, not the other way around.  Alexander   Dec-18-07 07:49 PM   #66 
  - You are terribly mistaken. Obama HIRED MCCLURKIN to emcee his SC concerts.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:19 PM   #68 
     - And then compounded the insult by refusing to apologize for the "ex-gay" clown's homophobic filth  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:26 PM   #69 
        - And they want to revise history to meet the needs of their Candidate  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:31 PM   #70 
           - Too many apologies, excuses, minimizations of bigotry around here  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:33 PM   #72 
  - He has a long record of supporting equal rights based on orientation  Radical Activist   Dec-18-07 08:38 PM   #76 
  - Why on earth did he hire an "ex-gay" to emcee his concerts then?  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:43 PM   #79 
  - His campaign released satements on it  Radical Activist   Dec-18-07 08:51 PM   #85 
     - I read them, they ring completely hollow to me. It was pandering in its most cynical form.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:52 PM   #86 
        - Then you had no need to ask me the question.  Radical Activist   Dec-18-07 08:56 PM   #91 
           - It's not guilt by "association" though. The campaign expressly hired him.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:58 PM   #93 
              - Yes, I'm sure it said bigots.  Radical Activist   Dec-18-07 09:00 PM   #96 
                 - Please feel free to ignore me and my "axe" and I will do the same for you.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:05 PM   #101 
                 - I put this putz on ignore long ago  zulchzulu   Dec-18-07 09:28 PM   #110 
                    - Gee how on earth would you know what "putz" they are talking to?  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:28 PM   #111 
  - Except when he's pandering for the bigot vote in South Carolina  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 08:44 PM   #80 
  - Just substitute "black" for "gay" in this thread  ruggerson   Dec-18-07 08:44 PM   #81 
  - It's clear, the apologists don't care.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:45 PM   #82 
  - ruggerson  ZombieHorde   Dec-18-07 08:58 PM   #94 
     - ZH, welcome to DU by the way!  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 08:59 PM   #95 
        - Thank you!  ZombieHorde   Dec-18-07 09:04 PM   #100 
           - We shall see  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:07 PM   #104 
  - Because he supplies our cocaine.  DuStrange   Dec-18-07 08:52 PM   #87 
  - What part of this is "bullshit"?  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:00 PM   #97 
     - The part where you pretend you're posting something new...  DuStrange   Dec-18-07 09:24 PM   #108 
        - That's a pretty vile post, DuStrange.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:26 PM   #109 
        - Meh, that's nothing! You should see the OP!  DuStrange   Dec-18-07 09:35 PM   #112 
           - Do you have to refer to _____? There's ladies & youngsters present.  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:37 PM   #114 
              - Done! I've edited out any reference to that certain activity.  DuStrange   Dec-18-07 09:42 PM   #118 
                 - LOL done!  Bluebear   Dec-18-07 09:45 PM   #119 
        - I have to rehash and retype "ex-gay clown" a thousand times  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:38 PM   #115 
           - I'm pretty sure they heard you (et al) the first brazillian times.  DuStrange   Dec-18-07 09:50 PM   #122 
              - Which brings up post # 98  ruggerson   Dec-18-07 09:52 PM   #124 
              - Apparently not  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 10:00 PM   #130 
  - Flamebait Sandwich covered with Lies  zulchzulu   Dec-18-07 09:02 PM   #99 
  - Let's look at a simple timeline:  FredScuttle   Dec-18-07 09:09 PM   #105 
  - If DU had standards  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 09:45 PM   #120 
  - Why are you posting a thread with a totally false and misleading subject line?  ClarkUSA   Dec-18-07 09:06 PM   #103 
  - I guess DU lets lies get posted on candidates...  zulchzulu   Dec-18-07 09:12 PM   #106 
  - Um, I've noticed the same tendency....hmmm....  ClarkUSA   Dec-18-07 09:55 PM   #126 
  - Nothing false or misleading about it  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 09:48 PM   #121 
     - Prove your OP assertion then. With links from credible sources.  ClarkUSA   Dec-18-07 09:58 PM   #128 
        - Read the thread  dbackjon   Dec-18-07 09:58 PM   #129 
        - It has become obvious that you don't care to read anything that does not fit  dbackjon   Dec-20-07 05:10 PM   #162 
  - ya got me  HuffleClaw   Dec-18-07 10:24 PM   #133 
  - Two points.  Clanfear   Dec-19-07 02:13 PM   #146 
  - Obama hired an "ex-gay" clown to headline his event, over the objections of countless LGBT groups  FredScuttle   Dec-19-07 02:42 PM   #147 
  - "it is really not all that important in the grand scheme of things" - thanks on behalf of GLBT's  Bluebear   Dec-19-07 06:44 PM   #155 
     - You so funny!  DivorcingNeo   Dec-19-07 09:02 PM   #156 
     - Good, laughter is good for the soul! :)  Bluebear   Dec-20-07 02:05 AM   #157 
     - Come on  dbackjon   Dec-20-07 03:09 PM   #161 
  - kick  oasis   Dec-20-07 03:35 AM   #159 
  - To all the doubter's on here  dbackjon   Dec-20-07 10:46 AM   #160 
  - Are you for real?  DivorcingNeo   Dec-20-07 05:24 PM   #163 
     - "Black American mayor"???  FredScuttle   Dec-20-07 05:49 PM   #164 
     - Well no wonder.  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 04:32 PM   #174 
     - "Typical hypocritical liberal" -- AND YOU'RE ON DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND... WHY?  LostinVA   Dec-23-07 10:27 AM   #212 
     - and I'm not done with you...  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 04:42 PM   #176 
     - San Francisco has no black professionals? LMAO!  Bluebear   Dec-20-07 08:05 PM   #166 
     - wow  musicblind   Dec-21-07 02:49 AM   #169 
     - Agreed and welcome to DU  Bluebear   Dec-21-07 03:08 AM   #171 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-07 04:44 PM   #177 
        - (I don't know whose obnoxious sockpuppet you are but you're very obvious.  Bluebear   Dec-21-07 06:31 PM   #192 
           - I know  LostinVA   Dec-23-07 10:32 AM   #213 
     - San Francisco has a unique problem with homelessness. And that's not teh gays fault.  readmoreoften   Dec-21-07 03:06 AM   #170 
     - More of the same  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 04:57 PM   #180 
        - "Homosexual issues?"  LostinVA   Dec-21-07 09:48 PM   #194 
     - Hi DivorcingNeo.  ZombieHorde   Dec-21-07 02:58 PM   #173 
     - Hmm  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 04:35 PM   #175 
        - Your analogy makes NO Sense  dbackjon   Dec-21-07 04:51 PM   #178 
        - Don't waste your time, Dbackjon  LostinVA   Dec-23-07 10:35 AM   #214 
           - Yes :)  dbackjon   Dec-23-07 04:52 PM   #217 
        - Hello DivorcingNeo  ZombieHorde   Dec-21-07 10:07 PM   #198 
     - Yes, it is for real  dbackjon   Dec-21-07 04:51 PM   #179 
        - Well we all know a Black American can't possible think for themselves...*smirks*  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 05:04 PM   #182 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-21-07 05:10 PM   #184 
        - Once again...your point in regards to Obama is?  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 05:38 PM   #190 
           - Actually, all those issues are important  dbackjon   Dec-21-07 05:51 PM   #191 
        - That's clear, because you are an extremely offensive person  Bluebear   Dec-21-07 06:42 PM   #193 
        - McClurkin didn't just sing, he PREACHED his hatred  LostinVA   Dec-21-07 09:53 PM   #195 
           - Good luck getting an answer on that,  Bluebear   Dec-21-07 10:05 PM   #196 
              - Oh, I'm sure I'll never get it  LostinVA   Dec-21-07 10:11 PM   #199 
        - and you are too.  DivorcingNeo   Dec-21-07 05:08 PM   #183 
  - edwards said something like "those people make me uncomfortable"  LordJFT   Dec-21-07 05:04 PM   #181 
  - Edwards denies that quote, and Edwards is the only candidate whose...  VarnettaTuckpocket   Dec-21-07 05:19 PM   #187 
     - Yep, but unfortunately neither of them are running  LordJFT   Dec-21-07 05:25 PM   #188 
        - Elizabeth's pro gay marriage stance was definitely calculated to make Edwards look more gay-friendly  VarnettaTuckpocket   Dec-21-07 05:33 PM   #189 
  - DU OPS: THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD IS A LIE AND FLAMEBAIT  zulchzulu   Dec-21-07 05:12 PM   #185 
  - Hi zulchzulu  ZombieHorde   Dec-21-07 10:42 PM   #200 
  - They're obviously nuts.  Perry Logan   Dec-21-07 05:13 PM   #186 
  - Another bogus thread attacking Obama... and the attendant Clintonian lapdogs.  ClarkUSA   Dec-21-07 10:45 PM   #201 
  - endorse  musicblind   Dec-22-07 01:49 AM   #203 
     - I never said it was okay...  DivorcingNeo   Dec-22-07 10:28 PM   #205 
        - You do realize that not all gay people are rich, white men, right?  LostinVA   Dec-22-07 10:34 PM   #206 
        - What fucked up fantasy world do you live in?  ruggerson   Dec-23-07 01:14 AM   #207 
  - Your premise is false.  ripple   Dec-23-07 01:50 AM   #208 
  - Unreal that this POS thread is allowed to fester this long...  larissa   Dec-23-07 01:56 AM   #209 
     - Maybe because some of us GLBT democrats are still hurt by Obama's  FreeState   Dec-23-07 02:06 AM   #210 
     - Good post  LostinVA   Dec-23-07 10:38 AM   #215 
     - Piece of Shit thread?  dbackjon   Dec-23-07 04:57 PM   #219 
  - To make posters like you ask the same question again and again?  Nimrod2005   Dec-23-07 07:17 AM   #211 
 

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