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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 07:03 PM
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Some of you folks are going to be a little embarrassed about these Kerrey remarks
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"Gore-Obama is a very big ticket, probably unbeatable."
- Former Senator Bob Kerrey

I understand the perception that Bob Kerrey must have been trying to spread misinformation about Obama at the behest of the Clinton campaign.

It is, however, incorrect. Tweety and Tucker and CNN and a lot of folks at DU did not do due diligence before jumping to this particular conclusion. You can say Kerrey is nuts, but he was NOT acting in any way that he perceived as harmful to Obama.

Earlier this year Bob Kerrey was expected to endorse Obama because he LOVES Obama. And Kerrey has harped on this same Muslim business before... back when he was considered a big Obama Booster. His comments are his standard "Why Obama would be a great President by changing the world" bit.

Kerrey's perception of an Obama connection to the Muslim world is something he has had stuck in his head. He really buys into the Obama campaign stuff about Barack presenting a new face of America to the world. While on the 9/11 commission, Kerrey seems to have given some thought to how to heal relations with the Muslim world. He has been a big booster of Obama because he sincerely believes that a President Obama would have a unique ability to heal relations with the Muslim world.

He may be crazy or correct to think so, but that's what he actually believes. And yes, he is vain and weird enough to be proud of describing a secular public school in a Muslim country as a "secular madrass." This is not the first time he's done it.

The fact that he eventually went with Clinton does not mean his is an Obama hater. Bob Kerrey honest-to-God loves Obama. (And I doubt the Obama campaign will complain much about this, because it is certain that Obama knows Kerrey was being sincere.)

Here is Bob Kerrey from the Imus show last May, six months ago:
So I’m listening to Bob Kerrey on the former Imus show, this morning hosted today by Joe Scarborough and once again I can’t help thinking that the Democrats nominated the wrong Kerr(e)y. There’s something appealing about the genuine thoughtfulness of the guy, the lack of pretense that he has all the answers.

“All of us are struggling,” he said. He was speaking specifically about all of us struggling with Iraq. But somehow there was another more resonant dimension to it: “All of us are struggling.” Perhaps because I find myself struggling (with work, beginning a new book is always the hardest part). But I had a sense that in some spiritual way Kerrey had a feeling for human struggle that most politicians just mouth off about.

He was remarkably candid about his own party: “The Democrats,” he said are now just about “bring ‘em home and don’t care” what we leave behind.”

He was no less kind tot he Republicans: “They’re just confused.”

When he talked about getting out of politics, he said he did it because “I wanted to get married and the woman I wanted to get married wanted to have a child “and he wanted to raise a child “out of politics”.

What was interesting was how eloquent he was in support of Barak Obama. “He ought to make a speech and say ‘yes, it’s right my middle name is Hussein, I have Muslims in my family. I can talk to the Muslim world and tell them we can be your friends if you’ll let us, but if not we can be your worst enemy.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/ronrosenbaum/2007/05/31/...


Recap of Kerrey interview in THE ECONOMIST from May 5, 2007: "Bob Kerrey, Unbound"
Asked to rate the foreign-policy platforms of the various Democratic candidates, he was unflinching.

Joe Biden, he says, is the most serious thinker on Iraq, even though his plan smacks too much of micromanaging. Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd and Governor Bill Richardson are likewise in the top tier of foreign policy.

Barack Obama lacks experience, but is uniquely equipped, given his Muslim heritage, Christian faith and peripatetic childhood, to face the foreign-policy challenges of the 21st century.

John Edwards has made strides in foreign policy since he last ran for President, though he is still stronger on domestic issues.

Mr. Kerrey, who sat as the highest-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, also has some specific criticisms of their plans for dealing with Iraq.

He thinks, for example, that Mrs. Clinton’s plan, which maintains funding for American troops but threatens to slash money for the American-trained Iraqi security forces, is misguided.

http://www.nyobserver.com/2007/kerrey-unbound-rates-dem...

And yes, I have no doubt that if Mark Penn had made exactly these comments it would have been QUITE intentional. And I don't doubt Penn's repition of "cocaine" was intentional... Penn is a professional sleaze. But this is no smear not coming from Bob Kerrey... He's a weirdo, but really thought he was doing good for Barack.



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  -Some of you folks are going to be a little embarrassed about these Kerrey remarks Kurt_and_Hunter  Dec-17-07 07:03 PM   #0 
  - Your not talking about the madrasa comment are you?  hnmnf   Dec-17-07 07:04 PM   #1 
  - If you know Bob Kerrey you know it isn't sinister.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 07:10 PM   #3 
     - Well when I finally heard the clip of him using madrasa...  hnmnf   Dec-17-07 07:11 PM   #4 
        - Not knowing what facts, exactly?  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:16 PM   #7 
        - Indonesia is not an "Arabic country".  bamalib   Dec-17-07 07:25 PM   #14 
           - Yes, that is unfortunate. I doubt they speak Arabic in Indonesia  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 07:29 PM   #15 
           - They do, actually.  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:36 PM   #18 
           - Language, not ethnicity.  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:34 PM   #16 
        - To him, it was the facts. Whether it is a slur or not, he doesn't think it is  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 07:20 PM   # 
        - Yeah, bob kerrey is  zidzi   Dec-17-07 07:36 PM   #17 
  - It doesn't matter. HE SAID THE TWO "M" WORDS, DAMMIT!!  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:05 PM   #2 
  - I read his entire statement. You are trying to spin his blatant attempt  Windy   Dec-17-07 07:12 PM   #5 
  - Ok, you said;  1corona4u   Dec-17-07 07:15 PM   #6 
  - "1. Obama does not look like a Muslim"  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:17 PM   #8 
  - Muslims are predominately Arabs...  1corona4u   Dec-17-07 07:36 PM   #19 
     - Re: "These are Muslims"  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:43 PM   #21 
     - That's why I put the last line in there..  1corona4u   Dec-17-07 07:51 PM   #22 
        - "Jews, who aren't Jewish"  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 07:57 PM   #24 
           - Exactly.  1corona4u   Dec-17-07 08:26 PM   #34 
     - no, the vast majority of Muslims are not Arabs  provis99   Dec-17-07 10:37 PM   #47 
  - I am not saying it makes any sense at all... I am saying what Kerrey says  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 07:25 PM   #13 
  - I know, I understood that, I was agreeing with you...  1corona4u   Dec-17-07 07:39 PM   #20 
     - Bob Kerrey is a genuine nut. Do you remember the 9/11 commission appearances where he kept  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 10:36 PM   #46 
  - It's not total happenstance that he has that middle name  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-17-07 08:17 PM   #28 
  - Your angular acceleration is off the charts!  Teaser   Dec-17-07 07:18 PM   #9 
  - i agree  sniffa   Dec-17-07 07:19 PM   #10 
  - Bob Kerrey: I respect his military service, but he's an egomaniacal ass who  wienerdoggie   Dec-17-07 07:20 PM   #11 
  - Kurt, of course you're correct, but the cult  ruggerson   Dec-17-07 07:20 PM   #12 
  - I think you're wrong and you're  zidzi   Dec-17-07 07:57 PM   #23 
     - attach a filet to it and you got a deal  ruggerson   Dec-17-07 07:59 PM   #25 
  - K&H - you're a serious poster and one I listen to, so I have seriously  K Gardner   Dec-17-07 07:59 PM   #26 
  - With the facts as presented, this is a very sensible conspiracy  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:07 PM   #27 
  - I'm not convinced it was an intentional attack either  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-17-07 08:24 PM   #31 
  - Kerry phone interview from Sunday:  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:26 PM   #33 
  - Bob Kerry Economist October, 2007:  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:21 PM   #29 
  - I see nothing wrong w/these remarks, and I am strongly anti-HRC  venable   Dec-17-07 08:23 PM   #30 
  - Oh Stuff IT! Bob Kerrey has always been a DINO like Lieberman and anything he says  KoKo01   Dec-17-07 08:24 PM   #32 
  - And to think you people wonder how republicans can be so ignorant...  Zueda   Dec-17-07 08:27 PM   #35 
  - I don't speak French, but I can say...  TwilightZone   Dec-17-07 08:47 PM   #40 
  - I think you probably got this right, Kurt  Tactical Progressive   Dec-17-07 08:35 PM   #36 
  - Kerrey has always been an enemy of the Clinton axis. I was puzzled too.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:35 PM   #37 
  - LATE EDIT TO OP: It was "Morning Joe", not Imus.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:43 PM   #38 
  - I could care less. My comments about him in another thread stand.  mmonk   Dec-17-07 08:47 PM   #39 
  - CNN Appearance (Video)  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 08:48 PM   #41 
  - You got it right but not one of the faux-ragers will admit that  durrrty libby   Dec-17-07 09:57 PM   #43 
  - Kerrey's comments on context (phone interview Sunday):  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 09:54 PM   #42 
  - Thank you, Hillary fan, for setting us straight.  geek tragedy   Dec-17-07 09:59 PM   #44 
     - I'm sorry the outrage of the day turned out to be a dud, but there's always tomorrow  Kurt_and_Hunter   Dec-17-07 10:05 PM   #45 
 

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