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Wed Dec-12-07 04:02 PM
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| 101. But her hatred seems more of an obsession |
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She can hate him all she wants, I don't really care. But this constant bashing, picking apart and shit-flinging is really nuts.
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| -EDWARDS could have "risked" some of his 54+ Millions rather than take Matching Funds. Why didn't he? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:38 AM |
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Are you opposed to public financing? |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-12-07 02:42 AM |
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I'm opposed to a candidate taking public financing if all the other candidates |
cali |
Dec-12-07 02:46 AM |
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Please unplug your TV, cali: You are the victim of the Bandwagon Fallacy |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-12-07 02:51 AM |
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well, I would, but I don't have tv, rufus. haven't in years |
cali |
Dec-12-07 03:07 AM |
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Urh.....it might be different IF John Edwards hadn't stated |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:47 AM |
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No doubt that statement was a "mistake" |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-12-07 03:20 AM |
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With public financing as it is in Arizona candidates aren't ALLOWED to finance campaigns themselves! |
calipendence |
Dec-12-07 05:02 PM |
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It will be very, very difficult for this rich man to win the presidency then........ |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:49 AM |
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Yeah, that was one thing that really impressed me about John Kerry. |
avrdream |
Dec-12-07 02:49 AM |
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Gee, so only rich people can run? That's swell. Happy oligarchy! n/t |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-12-07 02:52 AM |
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John Edwards IS rich. Duh! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:58 AM |
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That seems to be what you have against him. His earned wealth. |
aquart |
Dec-12-07 03:11 AM |
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I don't have a problem with his being rich. |
cali |
Dec-12-07 03:14 AM |
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Yeah, right....I'm just jealous and ridiculous.... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:19 AM |
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The point is that he has $54 million |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 06:48 AM |
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Thanks .. Edwards stands for what he believes. |
Hieronymus |
Dec-12-07 12:04 PM |
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And he's willing to risk another 8 years of our future in his Quixotic quest. |
MGKrebs |
Dec-12-07 01:37 PM |
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Wrong. |
huskerlaw |
Dec-12-07 02:00 PM |
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Too bad the election isn't tomorrow. |
MGKrebs |
Dec-12-07 02:35 PM |
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Perhaps. |
huskerlaw |
Dec-12-07 03:05 PM |
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As the rest of this thread explains, Edwards is spending ALL of his |
MGKrebs |
Dec-12-07 03:32 PM |
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And so John Edwards is more unelectable than the other two frontrunners...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:38 PM |
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That's ridiculous |
huskerlaw |
Dec-12-07 05:42 PM |
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Which is why you support John Edwards...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 07:12 PM |
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Oh, you're so right |
huskerlaw |
Dec-12-07 09:15 PM |
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That's not true either |
huskerlaw |
Dec-12-07 05:40 PM |
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What I know is that Edwards had spent $18 million as of |
MGKrebs |
Dec-13-07 12:48 PM |
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Oh yeah. Kerry was just one paycheck away from homelessness |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-12-07 03:14 AM |
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You are the one missing the point......it's called LOSING. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:28 AM |
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Sorry, then you don't know John Edwards |
zalinda |
Dec-12-07 04:02 AM |
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lol! |
cali |
Dec-12-07 05:44 AM |
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It does come down to trust. |
MGKrebs |
Dec-12-07 08:29 PM |
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Not to mention - Did Edwards write even one line of legislation |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 07:01 AM |
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Actually, there were times in Kerry's life where he WAS homeless |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 06:59 AM |
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Poor John Kerry risked his HOUSE? Where's he living now? His car? |
Inspired |
Dec-12-07 05:03 AM |
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He didn't lose |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 07:09 AM |
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Kerry was a lousy candidate. |
Hieronymus |
Dec-12-07 12:06 PM |
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If you think so...but Kerry did put his money where his mouth was....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:09 PM |
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I really don't think the presidency should be available to those willing to |
Hieronymus |
Dec-12-07 06:42 PM |
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how long you lived in America? |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Dec-12-07 02:35 PM |
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That's great. Well let's stay the course then! |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-12-07 05:01 PM |
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well you were acting incredulous |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Dec-13-07 10:19 AM |
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To me, that means one is serious and is willing to take the risk...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:57 AM |
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Ya know Frenchie |
sandnsea |
Dec-12-07 03:03 AM |
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Ironically, I'm an accountant sandsea..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:08 AM |
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I suppose the DNC would be forced to take a much more active role in the campaign |
tritsofme |
Dec-12-07 03:07 AM |
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or something..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:10 AM |
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You don't have an open mind to accept what he 'feels', |
Inspired |
Dec-12-07 05:37 AM |
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Your post doesn't address the issue....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 11:47 AM |
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I'm not attacking you. |
Inspired |
Dec-12-07 03:48 PM |
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You attack me in telling me that I don't have an open mind..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 05:23 PM |
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These attacks are getting more and more pathetic. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 03:16 AM |
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Why don't you tell me why this attack is sad........ |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:20 AM |
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Because his wealth isn't the issue, |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 03:35 AM |
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You are correct, Edwards' wealth isn't the issue......the issue why |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 11:33 AM |
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Because that's not how it works. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 01:56 PM |
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Yeah....right, a made up issue........ |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:29 PM |
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I don't think any of our candidates are "unelectable." |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 03:48 PM |
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it's axiomatic that people think that criticism of their candidate |
cali |
Dec-12-07 03:24 AM |
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When was the last time you contributed anything positive |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 03:47 AM |
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you have a selective eye. I've written plenty positive |
cali |
Dec-12-07 03:50 AM |
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Okay. I admit I have seen you step up to defend |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 04:02 AM |
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But what you seem unable to deal with is that some of us don't |
cali |
Dec-12-07 04:32 AM |
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I don't think he set out to screw anyone. |
Mythsaje |
Dec-12-07 01:42 PM |
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For those who don't understand how this works, here's my brief explanation |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-12-07 03:17 AM |
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succinctly said. Some supporters argue that 527s will take up the |
cali |
Dec-12-07 03:22 AM |
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They can run positive ads but just can't say "Vote for John Edwards" |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-12-07 03:31 AM |
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Extraordinary measures may need to be taken if he is the nominee. |
tritsofme |
Dec-12-07 03:28 AM |
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That's not possible, even if it were... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-12-07 03:39 AM |
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The problem with that is the Republicans will fight it as subverting |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 07:20 AM |
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Kerry's wife is worth 10 times as much as Edwards |
dsc |
Dec-12-07 04:39 AM |
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Kerry's wife was able to give him $2,300 in each election PERIOD |
karynnj |
Dec-12-07 07:27 AM |
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My point isn't that she could give his campaign money |
dsc |
Dec-12-07 12:40 PM |
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Yeah, but... |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-12-07 01:19 PM |
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Well, Edwards did it to finance his Senate race. He spent only his own money and it was a little |
Mass |
Dec-12-07 03:14 PM |
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He would have to finance about 100 million |
dsc |
Dec-12-07 06:30 PM |
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That is incorrect...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 07:11 PM |
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If he'd gone the other way... |
sendero |
Dec-12-07 06:08 AM |
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Bingo. |
Vickers |
Dec-12-07 07:31 AM |
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But wouldn't John Edwards not worry about what people might think...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 10:20 AM |
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I don't think... |
sendero |
Dec-12-07 04:55 PM |
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What the good in earning a lot of money if most if any of it isn't going to used |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 05:12 PM |
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why did John Edwards give up his multimillion dollar law career?? |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 12:08 PM |
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not true. He's almost tripled his worth since leaving the Senate. |
cali |
Dec-12-07 12:44 PM |
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source? |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 12:56 PM |
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Open Secrets |
cali |
Dec-12-07 01:11 PM |
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well what do you think? |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 01:18 PM |
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So why does John Edwards not want to invest his own money |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 01:25 PM |
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it was explained to you up thread |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 01:30 PM |
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If he was leading by example, why was he willing not to lead on this |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 01:44 PM |
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mutual funds are NOT the same as hedge funds. |
cali |
Dec-12-07 01:48 PM |
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THATS your source??? |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 01:19 PM |
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That's an excellent source |
cali |
Dec-12-07 01:36 PM |
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yes but your link is talking about CAMPAIGN FUNDING |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 01:42 PM |
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there's a personal finance link on the page n/t |
cali |
Dec-12-07 01:46 PM |
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Obviously, some folks aren't "concerned" about "winning" the election |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 01:48 PM |
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that's for sure. |
cali |
Dec-12-07 01:50 PM |
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are you watching the GOP debate right??? |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 01:55 PM |
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Meaning? That somehow your assurances based on your perception |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:02 PM |
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dont take my word for it |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 03:16 PM |
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Do you remember the one back in 2003 that said that Dean had it all sewn up too? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:30 PM |
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A huge pay cut. |
Hieronymus |
Dec-12-07 06:57 PM |
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that graph does not distinguish hedge fund investments from mutual funds |
LSK |
Dec-12-07 12:09 PM |
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The point is taking a risk with one's personal fortune to help the little guys....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 01:50 PM |
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This thread is about |
frogmarch |
Dec-12-07 02:06 PM |
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Don't like the thread? Well I don't like the thought that so many |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:18 PM |
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And you're doing your best |
frogmarch |
Dec-12-07 02:33 PM |
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I'm not the one that decided for John Edwards to continue sitting on his 54 million dollars |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 02:57 PM |
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The most progressive candidate is Kucinich, bar none. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-12-07 03:53 PM |
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Edwards' is for whatever it takes..........but hands off his moula! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 04:54 PM |
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If he used his own money you would find a way to criticize him for it |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-12-07 02:14 PM |
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Plu-EAze......Your logic isn't even sound. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 03:09 PM |
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You don't like anything about Edwards- which is fine. You are entitled to your opinion |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-12-07 03:53 PM |
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She just said she didn't have a candidate. |
Clark2008 |
Dec-12-07 03:56 PM |
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Well excuse me for not knowing who she supports |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-12-07 03:59 PM |
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I'm not here to make you happy...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 04:02 PM |
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Saying that Edwards is "unelectable" over and over |
last_texas_dem |
Dec-12-07 05:26 PM |
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I consider John Edwards unelectable for very tangible reasons |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 06:29 PM |
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You've got that right. |
Inspired |
Dec-12-07 03:57 PM |
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But her hatred seems more of an obsession |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-12-07 04:02 PM |
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I don't hate unelectable John Edwards........ |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 04:07 PM |
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And you have a love jones for John Edwards |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 04:04 PM |
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LOL! I rest my case |
Beaverhausen |
Dec-12-07 04:06 PM |
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And so you should. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 04:09 PM |
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i thought this was only for the primaries..is that not right? i thought he only |
flyarm |
Dec-12-07 05:16 PM |
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This is until the General Election starts, which is after the conventions are over. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 05:40 PM |
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Why, so he could buy the primary like Kerry? |
ozone_man |
Dec-12-07 05:50 PM |
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It isn't fair and square if one is hamstrung to spending caps |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 06:21 PM |
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It was $6 million. |
ozone_man |
Dec-12-07 06:38 PM |
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John Knew he would be the one candidate that could defeat the Rep |
surfermaw |
Dec-12-07 06:51 PM |
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True, and |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-12-07 06:58 PM |
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spending caps won't let the funds flow! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-12-07 07:15 PM |
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That is exactly the fallacy! THE FUNDS ARE LIMITED FOR EDWARDS. |
MGKrebs |
Dec-13-07 12:13 PM |
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Because if he can't be president he wants to at least be a millionaire. |
ginchinchili |
Dec-12-07 07:04 PM |
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Or serves MBNA. n/t |
Inspired |
Dec-13-07 09:37 AM |
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You answered your own question. |
Life Long Dem |
Dec-12-07 07:10 PM |
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He has kids |
childslibrarian |
Dec-12-07 07:23 PM |
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he's worth $54 million |
cali |
Dec-12-07 08:29 PM |
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And he would still be about 170 mil down from what the corporate candidates have. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-13-07 12:52 PM |
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The Matching Fund strategy should be encouraged |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-12-07 09:20 PM |
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Because he's going to win doing it this way, and nobody can call him a Charles Foster Kane. |
1932 |
Dec-12-07 09:51 PM |
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Maybe. But we could, if so inclined, still call him |
cali |
Dec-13-07 09:52 AM |
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Good question. I'm not going to answer though |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Dec-12-07 10:08 PM |
#137 |
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