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Tue Dec-11-07 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
| 18. I dont like that poll |
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There are too many decided people in that poll and it probably because of the way they phrased the question. They said "Do you support Clinton, Obama, Edwards, or somebody else. Sounds like Survey USA has cut out everybody else.
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| -New ABC News/WaPo Poll: Hillary - 53 (!!), Obama - 23, Edwards - 10 |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 04:50 PM |
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Wow |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 04:51 PM |
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word. nt |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-11-07 05:11 PM |
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Link doesn't work |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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There's something screwy with the link, FYI. nt |
gateley |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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Fixed now. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 04:54 PM |
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Thanks. nt |
gateley |
Dec-11-07 04:59 PM |
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I really think national polls are pretty meaningless at this point. n/t |
cali |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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Why? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 04:59 PM |
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well, I've never put any stock in national polls |
cali |
Dec-11-07 05:07 PM |
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Most polls don't show a 30 point gap, they show a 10 point gap. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:11 PM |
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Dean Never Led By Thirty Points This Close To Iowa |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:16 PM |
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She's not leading by thirty points, she's leading by ten. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:24 PM |
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though one came out with her up 17. |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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RCP's average is 18.5 for Clinton's lead based on average of last 7 polls |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:17 PM |
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Three polls taken the same time, One has it at a 10 point lead, one has it at 17 and the other at 30 |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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Could be an outlier. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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A Reasonable Person Would Average Them Or Throw Out The High And Low One |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:26 PM |
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Then you have to add the rasmussen one i forgot that has it at 11 |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:27 PM |
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Real Clear Politics Has It At 18.5% |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:38 PM |
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I read that, but they take a mean |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:40 PM |
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That's going back to November 30th. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:23 PM |
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3 polls were taken at the same time. They show 10, 17 & 30 pt leads. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:24 PM |
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And that's why one discards outliers like this one. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:31 PM |
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So why don't you discard the 10 point poll which is only supported by Rasmussen? |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:37 PM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:56 PM |
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Ras had a pretty good record in 2004 and 2006. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 06:04 PM |
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Because Rasmussen's data is a 4-day rolling poll. |
TheWraith |
Dec-12-07 06:06 PM |
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Then It's A Seventeen Point Lead |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:10 PM |
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Um, no. Rasmussen is actually the most reliable here, since it's a rolling tracking poll. NT |
TheWraith |
Dec-12-07 06:02 PM |
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creeksneakers2 |
Dec-11-07 06:15 PM |
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All evidence Ive seen is contrary to this |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 06:16 PM |
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No. I must have miscounted. Deleted the post. |
creeksneakers2 |
Dec-11-07 06:30 PM |
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Because you can't get a straight answer. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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WAPO Has A Good Track Record |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:31 PM |
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They're meaningless at every point during the primary. n/t |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 05:37 PM |
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30 point lead? ouch |
quinnox |
Dec-11-07 04:54 PM |
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Can anybody say outlier? |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 04:55 PM |
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christmas parties starting early at WaPo and ABC News |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-11-07 04:55 PM |
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K&R. |
Skip Intro |
Dec-11-07 04:56 PM |
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Huge |
WesDem |
Dec-11-07 04:56 PM |
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In other polling news Survey USA finds a tightening race in SC |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:02 PM |
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I dont like that poll |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:06 PM |
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Nice pickup. I had not noticed that. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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Seeing that numeral "4" was a charge - lol |
WesDem |
Dec-11-07 05:46 PM |
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They Nailed The 04 Election |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:04 PM |
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As hnmnf pointed out it limits the choices to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Other Democrat. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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Im talking about the SC poll though, not the National one. |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:19 PM |
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Yes, I know. DSB was pointing out SurveyUSA has a good track record in terms of predictions. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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I Was Referring To The WAPO Poll |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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K & R |
durrrty libby |
Dec-11-07 05:02 PM |
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Significant lead in "empathy" |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 05:04 PM |
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Empathy Is Powerful Stuff |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:02 PM |
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No doubt...but she would appear to lag in this area |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 06:13 PM |
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I Would Have Just Asked The Question |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:22 PM |
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An interesting view |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 06:48 PM |
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We won't be hearing or seeing these numbers.... |
suston96 |
Dec-11-07 05:06 PM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:01 PM |
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These "polls" are ridiculous. |
weeve |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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So The Media Polls Showing Obama Neck And Neck In IA, NH, And SC Are Spurious Too? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:36 PM |
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Yawn! These polls are meaningless, except to mislead voters |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-11-07 05:10 PM |
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Or you could read up on how pollsters are dealing with issues of cell phones. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:14 PM |
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In your article's own words, cell phone voters are |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-11-07 07:21 PM |
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The cell phone problem has been around for awhile |
bamalib |
Dec-11-07 05:26 PM |
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Wow |
seasonedblue |
Dec-11-07 05:12 PM |
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Everything is working according to the plan. |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-11-07 05:13 PM |
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Hannity's gnashing his teeth right now lol. |
seasonedblue |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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Buuuuwhahahahha! |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-11-07 08:02 PM |
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WTF? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-11-07 05:20 PM |
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National polls still don't matter. |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 05:32 PM |
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Hell no. They don't matter. Not when Hillary is the one out in front by a country mile (snicker) |
mtnsnake |
Dec-11-07 06:09 PM |
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Or when they showed Dean leading the natinal polls in December of '03. |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 07:24 PM |
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Dean wasn't leading national polls in Dec 03. Undecided was by some margin. |
rinsd |
Dec-12-07 12:17 PM |
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Are These The Same Media Outlets |
The River |
Dec-11-07 05:32 PM |
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K&R |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Dec-11-07 05:48 PM |
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The CNN was conducted in the same period (Dec. 9-12) and Hil is up by only 10% |
antiimperialist |
Dec-11-07 06:06 PM |
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You have it backwards. WaPo/ABC is likely voters, CNN is registered voters (nt) |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 06:08 PM |
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In Any Case Registered And Likely Voter Models Usually Differ By Two To Four Points Not Thirty |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:12 PM |
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Rasmussen National Hillary: 36%. 12/12 |
Carrieyazel |
Dec-12-07 12:49 PM |
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Not a chance ... |
Cosmocat |
Dec-12-07 01:08 PM |
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ABC, Owned by Disney, is once again full of SHIT!!!!! |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-12-07 03:53 PM |
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interesting |
Magic Rat |
Dec-12-07 03:59 PM |
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Doesn't really mean a thing, unless it translates to victory in Iowa or NH ... |
krkaufman |
Dec-12-07 04:59 PM |
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Brand new Iowa poll: New Iowa Poll: Obama at 33% -> leads Hillary by 8 points (way outside the MOE) |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-12-07 06:10 PM |
#83 |
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