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Tue Dec-11-07 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| -New ABC News/WaPo Poll: Hillary - 53 (!!), Obama - 23, Edwards - 10 |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 04:50 PM |
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Wow |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 04:51 PM |
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word. nt |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-11-07 05:11 PM |
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Link doesn't work |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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There's something screwy with the link, FYI. nt |
gateley |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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Fixed now. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 04:54 PM |
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Thanks. nt |
gateley |
Dec-11-07 04:59 PM |
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I really think national polls are pretty meaningless at this point. n/t |
cali |
Dec-11-07 04:53 PM |
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Why? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 04:59 PM |
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well, I've never put any stock in national polls |
cali |
Dec-11-07 05:07 PM |
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Most polls don't show a 30 point gap, they show a 10 point gap. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:11 PM |
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Dean Never Led By Thirty Points This Close To Iowa |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:16 PM |
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She's not leading by thirty points, she's leading by ten. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:24 PM |
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though one came out with her up 17. |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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RCP's average is 18.5 for Clinton's lead based on average of last 7 polls |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:17 PM |
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Three polls taken the same time, One has it at a 10 point lead, one has it at 17 and the other at 30 |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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Could be an outlier. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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A Reasonable Person Would Average Them Or Throw Out The High And Low One |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:26 PM |
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Then you have to add the rasmussen one i forgot that has it at 11 |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:27 PM |
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Real Clear Politics Has It At 18.5% |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:38 PM |
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I read that, but they take a mean |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:40 PM |
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That's going back to November 30th. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:23 PM |
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3 polls were taken at the same time. They show 10, 17 & 30 pt leads. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:24 PM |
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And that's why one discards outliers like this one. |
TheWraith |
Dec-11-07 05:31 PM |
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So why don't you discard the 10 point poll which is only supported by Rasmussen? |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:37 PM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:56 PM |
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Ras had a pretty good record in 2004 and 2006. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 06:04 PM |
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Because Rasmussen's data is a 4-day rolling poll. |
TheWraith |
Dec-12-07 06:06 PM |
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Then It's A Seventeen Point Lead |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:10 PM |
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Um, no. Rasmussen is actually the most reliable here, since it's a rolling tracking poll. NT |
TheWraith |
Dec-12-07 06:02 PM |
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creeksneakers2 |
Dec-11-07 06:15 PM |
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All evidence Ive seen is contrary to this |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 06:16 PM |
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No. I must have miscounted. Deleted the post. |
creeksneakers2 |
Dec-11-07 06:30 PM |
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Because you can't get a straight answer. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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WAPO Has A Good Track Record |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:31 PM |
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They're meaningless at every point during the primary. n/t |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 05:37 PM |
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30 point lead? ouch |
quinnox |
Dec-11-07 04:54 PM |
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Can anybody say outlier? |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 04:55 PM |
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christmas parties starting early at WaPo and ABC News |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-11-07 04:55 PM |
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K&R. |
Skip Intro |
Dec-11-07 04:56 PM |
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Huge |
WesDem |
Dec-11-07 04:56 PM |
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In other polling news Survey USA finds a tightening race in SC |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:02 PM |
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I dont like that poll |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:06 PM |
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Nice pickup. I had not noticed that. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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Seeing that numeral "4" was a charge - lol |
WesDem |
Dec-11-07 05:46 PM |
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They Nailed The 04 Election |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:04 PM |
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As hnmnf pointed out it limits the choices to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Other Democrat. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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Im talking about the SC poll though, not the National one. |
hnmnf |
Dec-11-07 05:19 PM |
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Yes, I know. DSB was pointing out SurveyUSA has a good track record in terms of predictions. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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I Was Referring To The WAPO Poll |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:22 PM |
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K & R |
durrrty libby |
Dec-11-07 05:02 PM |
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Significant lead in "empathy" |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 05:04 PM |
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Empathy Is Powerful Stuff |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:02 PM |
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No doubt...but she would appear to lag in this area |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 06:13 PM |
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I Would Have Just Asked The Question |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:22 PM |
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An interesting view |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-11-07 06:48 PM |
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We won't be hearing or seeing these numbers.... |
suston96 |
Dec-11-07 05:06 PM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:01 PM |
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These "polls" are ridiculous. |
weeve |
Dec-11-07 05:09 PM |
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So The Media Polls Showing Obama Neck And Neck In IA, NH, And SC Are Spurious Too? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 05:36 PM |
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Yawn! These polls are meaningless, except to mislead voters |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-11-07 05:10 PM |
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Or you could read up on how pollsters are dealing with issues of cell phones. |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 05:14 PM |
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In your article's own words, cell phone voters are |
Impeachment_Monkey |
Dec-11-07 07:21 PM |
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The cell phone problem has been around for awhile |
bamalib |
Dec-11-07 05:26 PM |
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Wow |
seasonedblue |
Dec-11-07 05:12 PM |
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Everything is working according to the plan. |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-11-07 05:13 PM |
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Hannity's gnashing his teeth right now lol. |
seasonedblue |
Dec-11-07 05:25 PM |
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Buuuuwhahahahha! |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-11-07 08:02 PM |
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WTF? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-11-07 05:20 PM |
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National polls still don't matter. |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 05:32 PM |
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Hell no. They don't matter. Not when Hillary is the one out in front by a country mile (snicker) |
mtnsnake |
Dec-11-07 06:09 PM |
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Or when they showed Dean leading the natinal polls in December of '03. |
Radical Activist |
Dec-11-07 07:24 PM |
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Dean wasn't leading national polls in Dec 03. Undecided was by some margin. |
rinsd |
Dec-12-07 12:17 PM |
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Are These The Same Media Outlets |
The River |
Dec-11-07 05:32 PM |
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K&R |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Dec-11-07 05:48 PM |
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The CNN was conducted in the same period (Dec. 9-12) and Hil is up by only 10% |
antiimperialist |
Dec-11-07 06:06 PM |
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You have it backwards. WaPo/ABC is likely voters, CNN is registered voters (nt) |
rinsd |
Dec-11-07 06:08 PM |
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In Any Case Registered And Likely Voter Models Usually Differ By Two To Four Points Not Thirty |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Dec-11-07 06:12 PM |
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Rasmussen National Hillary: 36%. 12/12 |
Carrieyazel |
Dec-12-07 12:49 PM |
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Not a chance ... |
Cosmocat |
Dec-12-07 01:08 PM |
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ABC, Owned by Disney, is once again full of SHIT!!!!! |
pdrichards114 |
Dec-12-07 03:53 PM |
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interesting |
Magic Rat |
Dec-12-07 03:59 PM |
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Doesn't really mean a thing, unless it translates to victory in Iowa or NH ... |
krkaufman |
Dec-12-07 04:59 PM |
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Brand new Iowa poll: New Iowa Poll: Obama at 33% -> leads Hillary by 8 points (way outside the MOE) |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-12-07 06:10 PM |
#83 |
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