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Sun Dec-09-07 03:04 AM
Response to Reply #57 |
| 58. Again, I never said I dismissed his entire record |
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I simply do not feel as confident in his support. I don't think he's a homophobe or a bad person, but I do think that his handling of the dingbat Donnie scandal showed he doesn't quite get it. If he didn't 'get it' then, I have less confidence that he'll 'get it' next time. See?
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| -Ok, I gotta ask. What "change" is Obama truly offering, and what does "hope" have to do with it? |
Skip Intro |
Dec-08-07 07:50 PM |
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it is just an advertising angle like "compassionate conservative" was in 2000 |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 07:51 PM |
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Hmmm... we hope he's offering change? |
theredpen |
Dec-08-07 07:52 PM |
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Bullshit. You don't want to know |
maximusveritas |
Dec-08-07 07:56 PM |
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typical. i don't expect any ObamaNation member to be able to answer the op |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 07:57 PM |
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typical..instead of following the advice to read up on Obama, you just flame away |
earthlover |
Dec-09-07 12:33 AM |
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i read it. it is full of platititudes and little substance |
Progress And Change |
Dec-09-07 09:55 AM |
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It was NOT the "safe" thing at the time to oppose the IWR...Obama opposed it anyway |
earthlover |
Dec-09-07 08:25 PM |
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It's a lot safer , when |
mitchtv |
Dec-09-07 10:05 PM |
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Maybe this would be better: |
avrdream |
Dec-08-07 08:00 PM |
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Well, maybe, since you have said others do better, YOU could spell things out? |
earthlover |
Dec-09-07 12:35 AM |
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What other candidates are putting forth anything even close to this? |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 12:38 AM |
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You said all that instead of answering the question. |
Skip Intro |
Dec-08-07 08:01 PM |
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Obviously, the OP's query is not sincere. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-08-07 08:08 PM |
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Well, I actually am sincere, and it was a sincere question. |
Skip Intro |
Dec-08-07 08:12 PM |
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this is the only place you can get the answer |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 08:21 PM |
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Thank you, I hadn't seen that one before and I'm still laughing!!! n/t |
Beacool |
Dec-09-07 09:59 PM |
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LOL! |
cuke |
Dec-09-07 11:26 PM |
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read the book if you wish...that will answer your questions.. |
earthlover |
Dec-09-07 12:36 AM |
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Ignore |
sandnsea |
Dec-08-07 07:58 PM |
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this is what happens when an ObamaNation member has to defend his "hope" in Obama |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 07:59 PM |
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This is hillarious. Sheesh. The slogan gets thrown around like no tomorrow, you ask what it means, |
Skip Intro |
Dec-08-07 08:03 PM |
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obviously they are not supporting him based on substance... |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 08:05 PM |
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Isn't that kinda like creating your own dreamworld where only what you want to hear exists? |
wiggle-room |
Dec-08-07 08:09 PM |
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Did not get a chance to say: |
goodgd_yall |
Dec-09-07 10:08 PM |
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Fine, you get Obama. |
aquart |
Dec-08-07 08:16 PM |
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That's exactly what I keep asking about Obama |
journalist3072 |
Dec-08-07 08:00 PM |
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One good speech, huh. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-08-07 08:02 PM |
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\ObamaNation members can't defend their "feelings" and "hope" that he is what they want him to be... |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 08:03 PM |
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Exactly. I get the feeling many of them don't even know WHY they support him. |
journalist3072 |
Dec-08-07 08:08 PM |
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yep, and oprah's speech today is a prime example of this... |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 08:09 PM |
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Precisely! I wonder if she even knows why she's supporting him. |
journalist3072 |
Dec-08-07 08:44 PM |
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Yep, I said it....he gave one good speech at the DNC |
journalist3072 |
Dec-08-07 08:07 PM |
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Who's Obama? |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-08-07 08:02 PM |
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he hopes he wins the presidency? nt |
msongs |
Dec-08-07 08:02 PM |
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I hope that Obama starts taking strong stands on the issues |
pstans |
Dec-08-07 08:04 PM |
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They're magic words that make the sun shine for an hour longer each day. |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-08-07 08:05 PM |
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I haven't read the books. I haven't gone over his Web site line by line |
hedgehog |
Dec-08-07 08:11 PM |
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Thanks. |
Skip Intro |
Dec-08-07 08:55 PM |
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It is good to read your reasons for supporting Obama. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-08-07 11:23 PM |
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And because of people like you, I love DU. It is the silly season, so to |
babylonsister |
Dec-09-07 12:19 AM |
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Every candidate wants "change". It's ideas that matter and the ability to get things done. BIDEN 08! |
Think82 |
Dec-08-07 08:12 PM |
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The change Obama will make compared to the current criminal |
babylonsister |
Dec-08-07 08:38 PM |
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none of that is about policy, though |
Progress And Change |
Dec-08-07 08:44 PM |
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'Hope', to me, isn't about policy. It's a feeling, and I get it from him. And |
babylonsister |
Dec-08-07 08:53 PM |
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Thanks for talking about what you like about the candidate you have decided to support. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-08-07 11:19 PM |
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Am I wrong? Look at the original question. That's what I was |
babylonsister |
Dec-09-07 12:14 AM |
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For GLBT people, not a damned thing. |
terrya |
Dec-08-07 08:55 PM |
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That's not fair. You can "embrace the change" alright. |
Bluebear |
Dec-08-07 11:42 PM |
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What the US needs, after 8 years of chimpie, is competence |
chaumont58 |
Dec-08-07 09:12 PM |
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How true. nt |
Jim4Wes |
Dec-08-07 10:18 PM |
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About as much as "I feel 'ur pain" or "Me's got the experiunce' 'cause I'm rich and been there"" |
izzybeans |
Dec-08-07 09:38 PM |
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I wonder the same thing |
Armstead |
Dec-08-07 09:57 PM |
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I've tabbed him as the "triangulator in training" -- |
Gloria |
Dec-08-07 11:19 PM |
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Theres a mound of change in just his tech policy alone |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 12:05 AM |
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Obama said today; "stand up for him and he'll stand up for you, I believe him, but only him...! |
Imagevision |
Dec-09-07 12:42 AM |
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Well, I'm gay. Somehow I doubt he'll be as rock-steady in his support of me. |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 12:45 AM |
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You base this solely |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 12:47 AM |
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Pretty much |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 01:02 AM |
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So you dismiss his entire voting record |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 02:06 AM |
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You're reading things in my post that I did not write |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 02:18 AM |
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Post 52 |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 02:46 AM |
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Again, I never said I dismissed his entire record |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 03:04 AM |
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Nope I don't see |
Egnever |
Dec-09-07 03:30 AM |
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Sounds like you have fallen deeply in love. I fear many Americans not ready for Democracy. |
terisan |
Dec-09-07 07:56 AM |
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McLurkin should NEVER |
maxanne |
Dec-09-07 08:11 AM |
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Nixon had a better record on civil rights in 1968 than Obama has on GLBT rights... |
Progress And Change |
Dec-09-07 09:05 AM |
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Not when there are votes to be had |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-09-07 03:09 AM |
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I think he was trying for a Sister Souljah moment |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 03:42 AM |
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He may have been |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Dec-09-07 03:49 AM |
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I'm with you Buffy |
LeftCoast |
Dec-09-07 03:59 AM |
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aw c'mon |
maxanne |
Dec-09-07 08:08 AM |
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One would think you were speaking about a deity, and not a candidate for president |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-09-07 02:29 AM |
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That's what I detect in many supporters |
goodgd_yall |
Dec-09-07 10:17 PM |
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Who is him? nm |
Tellurian |
Dec-09-07 10:24 PM |
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Hope ain't nuthin' |
ArkySue |
Dec-09-07 01:08 AM |
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FDR didn't give too many specifics about what he was going to do in office |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-07 04:52 AM |
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FDR had solid executive experience behind him. Obama has none. |
terisan |
Dec-09-07 08:17 AM |
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Just that Donnie McClurkin will finally make it onto the Presidental iPod, |
MethuenProgressive |
Dec-09-07 08:18 AM |
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I'll take Obama's message of real "change" over Clinton's retreaded "change" |
zulchzulu |
Dec-09-07 09:07 AM |
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It reminds me of Mr. Burns book |
forsberg |
Dec-09-07 09:26 PM |
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The "change" is that we break the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynastic rule |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-09-07 09:36 PM |
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so the difference is his name isn't clinton and he will keep his "clenis" where it belongs? |
Progress And Change |
Dec-09-07 10:12 PM |
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Bill Clinton is still dipping his wick in forbidden waters |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-09-07 10:29 PM |
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Well, you don't have to worry about Ron Paul's penis. It doesnt even have nickname |
cuke |
Dec-09-07 11:28 PM |
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And David Geffen is an "Oracle" now? |
CyberPieHole |
Dec-10-07 12:02 PM |
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HOPE and CHANGE sound like words from Edwards. |
laureloak |
Dec-09-07 09:49 PM |
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pretty much, he's trying to be the black Edwards |
forsberg |
Dec-09-07 11:25 PM |
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"Change" for him. And he "Hope(s)" he can do it... |
CyberPieHole |
Dec-09-07 09:49 PM |
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More Nuclear |
mitchtv |
Dec-09-07 10:02 PM |
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See his recent WSJ op-ed |
question everything |
Dec-09-07 10:31 PM |
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No change and he hopes everyone is too stupid to notice. |
acmavm |
Dec-10-07 12:46 PM |
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