Reply #82: There's no "there" there with Obama, or at least less than Biden.

[Think82]

You seem to have selected Obama based on things that aren't really there. He wants "change" but that seems to mean missing votes and staying away from specifics. I like Obama, but the only candidate I'm hearing clear, pragmatic, visionary solutions is Joe Biden.

Biden has shown more leadership in the last few months than Obama has in his entire senate career.

BTW, who had the "vision" to come up with the only viable exit strategy for Iraq, based on federalism? Biden. Obama missed the vote on Biden's plan. Biden was the leader on this solution, and was able to bring repubs around to his vision.

In other words Biden is already DOING what Obama is promising.