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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:18 AM
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ABB is a vote for survival but not a vote for change
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A vote for Kerry or Edwards may be a vote for survival but ABBer's lose me when they say " Let's get any Dem in and THEN work on change".

There is an axiom in negotiation that goes like this " The value of services is greatly diminished after the service has been rendered."

In other words, if one of these Dems get in come November there will be no incentive for them to change the status quo. We will be rubber stamping a spineless way of doing politics. Real change would have to be negotiated BEFOREHAND. Or they would have to lose and thereby come to realize that their way of doing business doesn't sell with us.

A vote for Kerry or Edwards will most likely save our country but it will NOT facillitate real change. So I'll likely vote ABB in November but please don't tell me it's anything more than that.

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  -ABB is a vote for survival but not a vote for change For PaisAn  Feb-22-04 10:18 AM   #0 
  - That's a good enough start. It sure beats the alternative.  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 10:19 AM   #1 
  - I agree as long as  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 10:24 AM   #5 
     - I don't happen to agree that restucturing the Party is the priority  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 11:25 AM   #24 
        - I was just clarifying the ABB argument  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 11:37 AM   #28 
  - I still have my doubts....  kalian   Feb-22-04 10:20 AM   #2 
  - I have big doubts, but it is about the Supreme Court replacements....  jansu   Feb-22-04 10:39 AM   #12 
  - Agree  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 10:49 AM   #16 
  - probably not big changes  drthais   Feb-22-04 10:46 AM   #14 
  - This is probably true but we MUST vote Democratic and save  movonne   Feb-22-04 10:21 AM   #3 
  - We need a real democrat  boobooday   Feb-22-04 10:21 AM   #4 
  - There will be change, but not the kind of change we desire ... quickly  mzmolly   Feb-22-04 10:24 AM   #6 
  - Clarification  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 10:33 AM   #9 
     - How can they save us if they won't change?  Paulie   Feb-22-04 10:36 AM   #11 
  - I agree.  girl gone mad   Feb-22-04 10:26 AM   #7 
  - Many, many individuals would notice the change.  Brucey   Feb-22-04 10:33 AM   #8 
  - If we ever want to change, we must first survive!  expatriot   Feb-22-04 10:35 AM   #10 
  - Taste is not the first priority of the starving.  sadiesworld   Feb-22-04 10:43 AM   #13 
  - Jesus, Sadiesworld --  Ghost Consul   Feb-22-04 11:28 AM   #25 
  - agreed-survival  buddhamama   Feb-22-04 10:48 AM   #15 
  - some people are  babzilla   Feb-22-04 10:53 AM   #18 
  - No incentive? What about '08?  Monte Carlo   Feb-22-04 10:52 AM   #17 
  - I don't see it that way  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 11:03 AM   #21 
  - you are absolutely correct on that---we can't let the DLC remain in power  slinkerwink   Feb-22-04 10:55 AM   #19 
  - A vote against the incumbent in 2004 --  Ghost Consul   Feb-22-04 11:00 AM   #20 
  - Agree & disagree  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 11:05 AM   #22 
     - I hear you. I was just thinking of examples like --  Ghost Consul   Feb-22-04 11:16 AM   #23 
        - After the Dems take over the Wh  Nashyra   Feb-22-04 11:33 AM   #27 
           - We agree.  Ghost Consul   Feb-22-04 11:38 AM   #29 
  - What About Health Care And Renewable Energy?  DrFunkenstein   Feb-22-04 11:30 AM   #26 
  - Again  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 11:46 AM   #31 
  - I agree wholeheartedly...  Caliphoto   Feb-22-04 11:40 AM   #30 
  - Absolutely  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 11:52 AM   #33 
  - If Bush gets another four, we won't survive.  kaitykaity   Feb-22-04 11:50 AM   #32 
  - My revised Subject Line:  For PaisAn   Feb-22-04 12:25 PM   #34 

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