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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Find It Yourself...
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  -the Nader/third-party thing is still, at its base, ulysses  Feb-21-04 09:06 PM   #0 
  - That would hurt  Paulie   Feb-21-04 09:07 PM   #1 
  - At its base, it's one man's ego vs. his nation.  aquart   Feb-21-04 09:08 PM   #2 
  - I don't think it's about his ego  Kipepeo   Feb-22-04 07:22 PM   #110 
  - nevermind  SEAburb   Feb-21-04 09:13 PM   #3 
  - interesting  ulysses   Feb-21-04 09:21 PM   #6 
     - I don't want to get caught up in this crap today  SEAburb   Feb-21-04 09:26 PM   #9 
        - then don't.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 09:27 PM   #10 
  - The split is in some minds  NewYorkerfromMass   Feb-21-04 09:13 PM   #4 
  - the only thing that changes the present reality  ulysses   Feb-21-04 09:29 PM   #12 
     - True that  NewYorkerfromMass   Feb-21-04 09:42 PM   #15 
  - Exactly  RafterMan   Feb-21-04 09:17 PM   #5 
  - Gore couldn't do it?  Old and In the Way   Feb-21-04 09:22 PM   #7 
     - Sigh  RafterMan   Feb-21-04 09:23 PM   #8 
        - Thank you  Walt Starr   Feb-21-04 09:29 PM   #11 
           - Thanks be to Mr. Starr!  EXE619K   Feb-21-04 09:40 PM   #13 
           - Thank You....  DemocratSinceBirth   Feb-22-04 06:24 AM   #73 
              - indeed  Iverson   Feb-22-04 06:29 AM   #74 
                 - It Really Is Parlor Games...  DemocratSinceBirth   Feb-22-04 06:43 AM   #75 
                    - I'd suggest that if you really want to win  Walt Starr   Feb-22-04 08:49 AM   #97 
                    - Starr: Exactly  Kipepeo   Feb-22-04 07:27 PM   #111 
                    - some basics  Iverson   Feb-22-04 09:14 AM   #99 
  - There is no way to heal purity, idealism, and an expectation for  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 09:40 PM   #14 
  - and, like so many others,  ulysses   Feb-21-04 09:49 PM   #17 
  - You can never heal it  RafterMan   Feb-21-04 09:52 PM   #19 
  - except that's not what the left wants  youngred   Feb-22-04 11:46 AM   #103 
  - Left vs. center?  Old and In the Way   Feb-21-04 09:47 PM   #16 
  - if I may quote you.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 09:50 PM   #18 
  - Overwhelmongly he was asked not to run; but he will.  blondeatlast   Feb-22-04 08:31 AM   #93 
  - I sort of disagree  waldenx   Feb-21-04 09:57 PM   #20 
  - to some the split is something  G_j   Feb-21-04 10:00 PM   #21 
  - Call It What It Is Please... Lunatic Fringe Left  arwalden   Feb-21-04 10:14 PM   #22 
  - I already called it what it was.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 10:19 PM   #23 
  - LOL.. No... I'm standing by my words. They Are Lunatic.  arwalden   Feb-21-04 11:17 PM   #36 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 11:48 PM   #47 
     - now, now. these folks are fully committed to moving us towards Utopia.  kodi   Feb-22-04 08:23 AM   #91 
        - WoW! You nailed me!  youngred   Feb-22-04 11:51 AM   #104 
  - check out  G_j   Feb-21-04 10:35 PM   #24 
  - Yes... that's it... you're on to me... I actually PREFER the split.  arwalden   Feb-21-04 10:52 PM   #27 
     - care to offer evidence to the contrary?  ulysses   Feb-21-04 10:54 PM   #29 
        - Find It Yourself...  arwalden   Feb-21-04 10:57 PM   #31 
           - no, that's ok.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:00 PM   #32 
           - LOL... OMG... How Adorable Is That? --- First You Ask ME For "Proof"  arwalden   Feb-21-04 11:21 PM   #38 
              - it doesn't seem terribly unreasonable.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:28 PM   #41 
                 - Then You Would Be Wrong  arwalden   Feb-21-04 11:44 PM   #45 
                    - no...I really don't think that I am.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:51 PM   #49 
                       - But I REALLY AND TRULY do prefer the split. Don't You Get It?  arwalden   Feb-21-04 11:56 PM   #50 
                          - well yes. I've been trying to tell you  ulysses   Feb-22-04 12:00 AM   #51 
                             - for dissent ...  Iverson   Feb-23-04 11:26 AM   #116 
           - you're the one making the claim  youngred   Feb-22-04 11:52 AM   #105 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-22-04 12:50 AM   #62 
  - If you call us Lunatic Fringe Left  Kipepeo   Feb-22-04 07:31 PM   #112 
  - nature abhors a vacuum  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:37 PM   #25 
  - the void being filled, then as now,  ulysses   Feb-21-04 10:50 PM   #26 
  - The left fringe is but one minority of many in the Democratic Party  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 10:53 PM   #28 
  - LOL - so, if the "left fringe"  ulysses   Feb-21-04 10:57 PM   #30 
  - The nader/3rd Party minority, obviously  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 11:00 PM   #33 
     - but who are they?  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:01 PM   #34 
        - What possible difference does it make or what relevance?  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 11:19 PM   #37 
        - well, you tell me!  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:25 PM   #40 
           - Excuse me, YOU are the one that started this thread demanding the  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 11:39 PM   #43 
              - I've demanded nothing.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:49 PM   #48 
                 - No, I don't accept your premise that there IS a quagmire  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 12:09 AM   #54 
                    - our hopes coincide, then.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 12:36 AM   #58 
                       - Fair enough  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 12:48 AM   #61 
                          - it won't be healed without participation on all sides.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:15 AM   #81 
                             - Backup and read this exchange again  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 08:50 AM   #98 
                                - which election was that  youngred   Feb-22-04 11:57 AM   #107 
        - bourgeoisie intellectuals who think ideas are more important than people  kodi   Feb-22-04 08:45 AM   #96 
           - that makes much more sense now.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 09:16 AM   #100 
              - all you need do is attend a bloviating nadir supporter meeting  kodi   Feb-22-04 09:27 AM   #101 
  - That post deserves a prize of some sort  Mairead   Feb-21-04 11:12 PM   #35 
  - Well Said, Ms. Democrat!  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 12:08 AM   #53 
  - A compliment from you is an honor, Sir  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 12:18 AM   #55 
  - Your basic premise is incorrect  SaddenedDem   Feb-22-04 07:28 AM   #82 
  - You really have no concept of the left beyond stereotypes and strawmen  youngred   Feb-22-04 11:54 AM   #106 
  - The "fringe left"  Kipepeo   Feb-22-04 07:40 PM   #113 
  - The Problem, Mr. Ulysses, With That Prescription  The Magistrate   Feb-21-04 11:22 PM   #39 
  - Most of that should be engraved in stone somewhere  union_maid   Feb-21-04 11:36 PM   #42 
  - Thank you, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Feb-21-04 11:47 PM   #46 
  - and a problem or two in return.  ulysses   Feb-21-04 11:43 PM   #44 
     - If You Are Advocating For Nader, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 12:05 AM   #52 
        - It will only put rightists in power  RafterMan   Feb-22-04 12:24 AM   #56 
        - Propose Your Terms, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 12:56 AM   #63 
           - I'm not the best person to ask  RafterMan   Feb-22-04 01:25 AM   #65 
              - All But One Are Already Present, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 01:36 AM   #67 
                 - But  RafterMan   Feb-22-04 01:53 AM   #69 
                    - Indeed, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 01:58 AM   #70 
                       - It is not "immaterial"  RafterMan   Feb-22-04 02:31 AM   #71 
                          - well, damn!  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:50 AM   #87 
        - ...  ulysses   Feb-22-04 12:30 AM   #57 
        - How about the left bringing something to the table?  union_maid   Feb-22-04 12:45 AM   #59 
        - how fortunate we are, then, for two things:  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:00 AM   #76 
        - Coalition Is Precisely What Was Suggested, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 12:47 AM   #60 
           - I don't define a coalition  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:07 AM   #77 
              - A Distinction Without Difference, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 07:53 PM   #115 
        - well I guess I'll just have to get my passport together  G_j   Feb-22-04 01:07 AM   #64 
           - A Good Start To That, Sir  The Magistrate   Feb-22-04 01:41 AM   #68 
              - "The People's Platform"  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:31 AM   #83 
                 - are purists confined to any one group?  G_j   Feb-22-04 07:39 AM   #84 
                 - yup.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:41 AM   #85 
                    - it's a tradition  G_j   Feb-22-04 07:48 AM   #86 
                 - ulysses  buddhamama   Feb-22-04 08:34 AM   #94 
                    - the page seems to be gone.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 08:42 AM   #95 
  - how would you heal that split?  gate of the sun   Feb-22-04 01:27 AM   #66 
  - there has to be honest and open discussion,  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:12 AM   #80 
     - it's always wise to start by finding  G_j   Feb-22-04 07:57 AM   #88 
  - A Recent Harris Poll Demonstrated That  DemocratSinceBirth   Feb-22-04 05:42 AM   #72 
  - I choose coalition as well.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 07:09 AM   #78 
  - when the star belly sneeches  G_j   Feb-22-04 07:10 AM   #79 
  - I have been here for 2.5 years  youngred   Feb-22-04 12:06 PM   #108 
  - OR...  Kipepeo   Feb-22-04 07:45 PM   #114 
  - Agreed.  devoedem   Feb-22-04 08:02 AM   #89 
  - the split  buddhamama   Feb-22-04 08:20 AM   #90 
  - I'm hardly a centrist.  blondeatlast   Feb-22-04 08:28 AM   # 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-22-04 08:28 AM   #92 
  - mods, please feel free to lock this if you wish.  ulysses   Feb-22-04 09:43 AM   #102 
  - Fix the situation by getting ranked voting  GreenPartyVoter   Feb-22-04 07:15 PM   #109 
  - I disagree, ulysses -- it's about the "curse of the New Deal"  IrateCitizen   Feb-23-04 11:50 AM   #117 
 

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