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173. In Defense of the Rich
I went to prep school and I went to a good college. In fact my Father grew up with the Kennedy's. I even dated a Kennedy once.And guess what ? We don't have any money anymore.I don't even have health insurance since my husband lost his job. I will not apologize for my upbringing, and consider myself less than noble because of it. I am tired of the reverse snobbism.And you know what?I can't stand phony populism as touted by Dean.He wears cheap suits when he has no reason to. It reminds me of Bush saying he doesn't own a tux and had to rent one. And his wife not being a "things" person because she doesn't want anything. That is only because they can afford to buy anything they want. I wouldn't be a things person either if I could afford to get what I need. Trashing Kerry or anyone else for their background while praising hypocrisy is the height of self righteousness.
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  -Can't believe what reverse snobs some posters here are... pookastew  Feb-21-04 08:55 PM   #0 
  - you don't get it.  northzax   Feb-21-04 08:58 PM   #1 
  - Lol!  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 09:01 PM   #5 
  - I don't recall any Dean supporters ragging on kerry for that  Eloriel   Feb-21-04 09:04 PM   #7 
  - Had one tell me last night that she can't vote for Kerry because  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 09:35 PM   #33 
  - I sure would  dsc   Feb-21-04 09:40 PM   #39 
  - Christ! Don't you find consider that just a bit invasive?  mitchum   Feb-21-04 09:43 PM   #41 
  - No  dsc   Feb-21-04 09:49 PM   #49 
     - Whatever...  mitchum   Feb-21-04 09:54 PM   #54 
        - I just saw the post  dsc   Feb-21-04 10:09 PM   #73 
  - Check your PM  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 09:58 PM   #60 
     - Thank you  dsc   Feb-21-04 10:07 PM   #68 
        - From other past threads  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 10:12 PM   #76 
           - Fair enough  dsc   Feb-21-04 10:15 PM   #78 
              - As you see, I told her as much. ;-)  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 10:28 PM   #92 
  - Okay, that was one  Eloriel   Feb-21-04 09:46 PM   #45 
     - Point is you said there weren't any. I had one at my fingertips.  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-21-04 10:01 PM   #61 
  - Selective memory there.  Jen72   Feb-22-04 06:55 AM   #174 
  - Please site one, just one,  dsc   Feb-21-04 09:05 PM   #9 
  - If you're referring to me...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:07 PM   #12 
     - No I am not  dsc   Feb-21-04 09:09 PM   #15 
        - ...oh.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:13 PM   #20 
           - Hi pooka, and welcome!  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 09:17 PM   #22 
              - Thanks.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:21 PM   #25 
              - That was very good...  mitchum   Feb-21-04 09:47 PM   #47 
  - It's not like Dean came from a Republican famility either..  Kahuna   Feb-21-04 09:06 PM   #11 
  - Excellent!  NewYorkerfromMass   Feb-21-04 09:31 PM   #29 
  - Yeah, and got his Republican mother to switch to Dem  Eloriel   Feb-21-04 09:53 PM   #53 
  - cant say the same about Dennis Kucinich  corporatewhore   Feb-21-04 09:13 PM   #19 
  - I see no answer as of yet  dsc   Feb-21-04 09:45 PM   #44 
  - we'd provide links  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:18 PM   #81 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 10:22 PM   #87 
        - then see rule #2 in the post  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:26 PM   #91 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 10:32 PM   #95 
  - what does Dean have to do with this?  indigo32   Feb-21-04 11:20 PM   #140 
  - Funny post!  Democat   Feb-21-04 11:36 PM   #146 
  - When I read, "Kerry's grandfather was a penniless immigrant" I thought...  wyldwolf   Feb-21-04 08:59 PM   #2 
  - No, no, wyldwolf --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 09:09 PM   #14 
     - Damn! Right! Thanks for reminding me!  wyldwolf   Feb-21-04 09:10 PM   #17 
  - Implying that Skull & Bones is merely a fraternity is like  AntiCoup2k   Feb-21-04 08:59 PM   #3 
  - i don't mean to be disagreeable, but...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:01 PM   #6 
  - Thanks to Skull & Bonesman Prescott Bush, Hitler killed 12 million.  AntiCoup2k   Feb-21-04 09:08 PM   #13 
  - They probably all ate...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:12 PM   # 
     - Steak is an inanimate object (at least after it leaves the slaughterhouse)  AntiCoup2k   Feb-21-04 09:33 PM   #31 
  - elitism  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 09:32 PM   #30 
  - Tell me all you know for fact about Skull and Bones  lurk_no_more   Feb-21-04 09:10 PM   #16 
  - What have I said that is not factual?  AntiCoup2k   Feb-21-04 09:29 PM   #28 
  - Are you denying  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:39 PM   #38 
  - it would be nice to know the facts, wouldn't it?  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 09:36 PM   #35 
     - Yeah, and while we're at it...  thebigthink   Feb-22-04 01:30 AM   #163 
  - Um,  buckeye1   Feb-21-04 09:38 PM   #37 
     - Can't you see? It's so obvious...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:42 PM   #40 
        - When you have no real facts to back your reasons to smear a  Old and In the Way   Feb-21-04 10:01 PM   #62 
           - LOL I went to the same law school as Nixon.  SW FL Dem   Feb-21-04 10:09 PM   #71 
  - I don't so much care about  frustrated_lefty   Feb-21-04 09:00 PM   #4 
  - Well, if that's the case...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:05 PM   #8 
  - I'm from a steel mill town and I'd love to have had --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 09:06 PM   #10 
  - Some Of The Snobbery Comes From The Fact That The Middle Class  mhr   Feb-21-04 09:12 PM   #18 
  - Great points.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:19 PM   #23 
  - I agree. I am not aware that Kerry was valedictorian of his  spooky3   Feb-22-04 11:37 AM   #186 
  - It's just terrible how the Great Unwashed mistreat the aristocrats!  QC   Feb-21-04 09:17 PM   #21 
  - Isn't that the truth  dweller   Feb-21-04 09:23 PM   #26 
  - Oh people fall alright...  Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak   Feb-21-04 09:19 PM   #24 
  - it would be a huge oversight not to question Kerry's ties...  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 09:28 PM   #27 
  - Just look at what the person has done with their lives  NewYorkerfromMass   Feb-21-04 09:36 PM   #34 
  - Well, there's certainly no arguing with that.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:37 PM   #36 
  - You'll want to find threads by Seventhson  Eloriel   Feb-21-04 10:01 PM   #63 
     - thanks.  joyautumn   Feb-22-04 01:52 AM   #166 
     - Yes, our soon-to-be esteemed author.  Old and In the Way   Feb-22-04 05:58 PM   #189 
  - Thre are plenty of reasons to despise Lord Kerry  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 09:34 PM   #32 
  - great posting...  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 09:45 PM   #43 
  - Thanks for the clarification on S&B  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 09:50 PM   #50 
  - So...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:47 PM   #46 
  - cause we could really use your support...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:47 PM   #48 
  - Did you read a word of my post?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 09:50 PM   #51 
     - Sure, sure. Great post.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:56 PM   #56 
     - For George W. Kerry? Snocones in hell, my friend.  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:02 PM   #64 
        - You're going to vote  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:08 PM   #70 
        - I took your challenge  saracat   Feb-22-04 02:45 AM   #171 
     - I started to, but then became distracted by the hum of the refrigerator  mitchum   Feb-21-04 09:57 PM   #59 
        - I didn't know they could fit "up there"  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:04 PM   #66 
           - Didn't polish up that material while you were away, did you?  mitchum   Feb-21-04 10:18 PM   #82 
              - The fridge? It's self cleaning!  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:24 PM   #89 
                 - Self cleaning LOL!  ozone_man   Feb-21-04 10:55 PM   #120 
                    - See Scott, it's important to have a shill in the audience...  mitchum   Feb-21-04 11:02 PM   #130 
                       - He deserves them,  ozone_man   Feb-21-04 11:23 PM   #141 
                          - I believe that Kerry has also been talking about the wretched...  mitchum   Feb-21-04 11:33 PM   #145 
  - *sigh*  Neo Progressive   Feb-21-04 09:55 PM   #55 
  - That and pretty much every other point in that post ignores the reality  NewYorkerfromMass   Feb-21-04 10:12 PM   #75 
  - Differences with Dubya  saracat   Feb-22-04 02:29 AM   #169 
  - Kerry does NOT support ANWR drilling. Hoffa was joking with Matthews  oasis   Feb-22-04 07:09 AM   #177 
  - I'm sticking with the original post by pookastew.  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 09:43 PM   #42 
  - You rule.  pookastew   Feb-21-04 09:51 PM   #52 
  - Gosh, thanks --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 09:56 PM   #57 
     - Oh wait...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:03 PM   #65 
        - Darn!  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 10:09 PM   #72 
  - ...can't support the guy  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 09:57 PM   #58 
  - It may NOT end in politics, WitchWay --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 10:05 PM   #67 
  - You've discovered a core problem with the current Dem party.  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:07 PM   #69 
  - So if your choice in November  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:19 PM   #84 
  - I shall write in Dean. There is always another choice.  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:23 PM   #88 
     - If the choice in November is Bush or Kerry...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:32 PM   #94 
     - If you are gonna write in Dean, why not just write in yourself...  bhunt70   Feb-22-04 12:16 AM   #160 
  - Winning IS everything!  saracat   Feb-22-04 02:36 AM   #170 
  - Well, I would rather compromise my vote than compromise my  lovedems   Feb-21-04 10:12 PM   #77 
  - There you are again, lovedems --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 10:18 PM   #83 
  - Hi GC!  lovedems   Feb-21-04 10:21 PM   #85 
  - ...no compromising anymore....  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 10:38 PM   #102 
  - On what basis  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:16 PM   #80 
     - I think that people are making the assumption that S&B made the  lovedems   Feb-21-04 10:26 PM   #90 
     - And *I* think...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:45 PM   #108 
     - Why thank you!  lovedems   Feb-21-04 10:55 PM   #121 
     - KFEE  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 10:55 PM   #118 
        - KFEE?  lovedems   Feb-21-04 10:59 PM   #127 
        - Sorry, I meant FFEE  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 11:47 PM   #148 
        - and yeah, I do want to gripe about Emerson  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 11:53 PM   #152 
        - um...  pookastew   Feb-21-04 11:04 PM   #132 
           - Maybe I'm a little ignorant  WitchWay   Feb-22-04 12:18 AM   #162 
              - It wasn't a matter of Blacks being "forced" to work...  pookastew   Feb-22-04 10:27 AM   #182 
     - accountability  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 10:51 PM   #114 
        - Well, I intend to hold GWB accountable first because of what he has  lovedems   Feb-21-04 11:06 PM   #134 
        - Asking for accountability is fine..  pookastew   Feb-22-04 10:45 AM   #183 
  - Believe me, there was PLENTY of "venom" re Kerry well  Eloriel   Feb-21-04 10:10 PM   #74 
     - Sorry, Eloriel, but of our announced candidates --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 10:15 PM   #79 
        - I'd have a grudge too, if my own party helped sabotage  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:21 PM   #86 
           - my goodness! NO!  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:30 PM   #93 
           - Yes, tell us  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:34 PM   #97 
           - goddamn, dude  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:42 PM   #104 
              - Or not.  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:48 PM   #109 
                 - better than no cylinders at all  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:52 PM   #115 
                    - The "Zomby Twoof" peters out and collapses.  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:54 PM   # 
                       - peters out and collapses?  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 11:01 PM   #128 
           - ignorance about the process  WitchWay   Feb-21-04 11:04 PM   #133 
           - Well isn' that rich  GodHelpUsAll2   Feb-21-04 11:40 PM   #147 
           - Please elaborate, with proof  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:33 PM   #96 
           - We can start with Toricelli  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:37 PM   #101 
              - No need to have such a rude tone...  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:40 PM   #103 
              - Care to address the Toricelli/Kerry example?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:48 PM   #110 
                 - No  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:51 PM   #113 
                    - Can you try a response? Like, with more than one word?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:53 PM   #116 
                       - Well,  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:57 PM   #125 
              - good  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 10:49 PM   #111 
              - No one "brought" Dean down but his own sweet self...  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:55 PM   #122 
                 - Dean's "down"? Like, did he disappear?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:57 PM   #124 
                    - No  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 11:02 PM   #129 
                    - Dean defies convention. Dont forget that.  Scott Lee   Feb-22-04 12:04 AM   #155 
                    - long after he is forgotten  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 11:03 PM   #131 
                    - Harold Stassen?!  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 11:08 PM   #136 
                       - I have a question  ZombyWoof   Feb-21-04 11:11 PM   #137 
                          - A LOT!  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 11:13 PM   #138 
                          - Yeah thats right  indigo32   Feb-21-04 11:29 PM   #143 
                             - Don't sweat 'em. They been gulped by the establishment  Scott Lee   Feb-22-04 12:06 AM   #156 
                                - but Dean has K-Streeters on his staff  ZombyWoof   Feb-22-04 12:15 AM   #159 
                    - Dean?  Nicholas_J   Feb-21-04 11:32 PM   #144 
                       - The Vaporous One  ZombyWoof   Feb-22-04 12:18 AM   #161 
              - You're presuming a causal relationship...  pookastew   Feb-22-04 11:19 AM   #185 
              - I don't know anything about Swoop Toricelli, but...  Enough is Enough   Feb-22-04 08:58 PM   #192 
           - In a constitutional republic --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 10:36 PM   #98 
           - IF Kerry is so "filthy"  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:36 PM   #100 
              - a conspiracy of filth?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:43 PM   #105 
              - Oh great....  pookastew   Feb-21-04 10:55 PM   #119 
                 - Bye , pooka  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 10:58 PM   #126 
              - Or the  cheryl27   Feb-21-04 10:44 PM   #106 
                 - Or the Sierra Club?  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:49 PM   #112 
  - I totally agree.  dawn   Feb-21-04 10:36 PM   #99 
  - I Don't Think Anyone TRULY Believes Those Things...  arwalden   Feb-21-04 10:44 PM   #107 
  - It's not that I don't Love Kerry -- I simply don't like him  Samantha   Feb-21-04 10:54 PM   #117 
  - Oh, he's a fine individual  Scott Lee   Feb-21-04 10:56 PM   #123 
     - Ever notice  GodHelpUsAll2   Feb-21-04 11:52 PM   #151 
        - It's a stalling technique because they have no argument  Scott Lee   Feb-22-04 12:01 AM   #153 
  - Pookastew, your original post stands strong --  Ghost Consul   Feb-21-04 11:07 PM   #135 
  - Here's what I don't get  indigo32   Feb-21-04 11:17 PM   #139 
  - It's not about reason. It's about Kerry.  Scott Lee   Feb-22-04 12:08 AM   #157 
  - Thanks!  pookastew   Feb-22-04 10:54 AM   #184 
     - Great!  Ghost Consul   Feb-22-04 11:47 AM   #187 
  - Well, I guess there is no real proof then,  LibertyChick   Feb-21-04 11:26 PM   #142 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-22-04 12:02 AM   #154 
  - I think the symbolism is powerful and important. I want to win and  AP   Feb-21-04 11:49 PM   #149 
  - Wait a minute  indigo32   Feb-21-04 11:51 PM   #150 
  - You'll lose if you "win" this way  Scott Lee   Feb-22-04 12:10 AM   #158 
     - Psst. They let EVERYONE vote for president, not just CA and NY.  AP   Feb-22-04 01:49 AM   #165 
  - Dean was a child of privilege  bushwakker   Feb-22-04 01:46 AM   #164 
  - Dean was also a child of privelege  WitchWay   Feb-22-04 02:05 AM   #167 
  - I admire Dean  bushwakker   Feb-22-04 08:33 AM   #179 
  - So was FDR. So was JFK (the original one).  Clark   Feb-22-04 02:11 AM   #168 
  - Nutz topic  mstrsplinter326   Feb-22-04 02:51 AM   #172 
  - In Defense of the Rich  saracat   Feb-22-04 03:00 AM   #173 
  - So Rich People are hypocrites if  Mflorence   Feb-22-04 01:00 PM   #188 
     - Rich People  saracat   Feb-22-04 06:56 PM   #190 
     - I guess we'll just have to have a difference of opinion.  Mflorence   Feb-22-04 09:39 PM   #193 
        - I guess we will have to have a difference of opinion.  saracat   Feb-23-04 12:33 AM   #195 
     - "Is John Kerry a hypocrite because he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam?"  5thGenDemocrat   Feb-22-04 07:12 PM   #191 
        - Of coarse Kerry is not a hypocrite for fighting in Vietnam,  Mflorence   Feb-22-04 10:14 PM   #194 
  - you forgot to mention  crozet4clark   Feb-22-04 07:04 AM   #175 
  - This reverse snobbery has been going on at DU  molly   Feb-22-04 07:07 AM   #176 
  - politics sometimes is about  mmonk   Feb-22-04 08:32 AM   #178 
  - Went to the same college -  bitchkitty   Feb-22-04 09:01 AM   #180 
  - yet they both agree on class war and "free trade"  WhoCountsTheVotes   Feb-22-04 09:24 AM   #181 
 

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