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Wed Nov-28-07 02:32 AM
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| 12. They rotate the list. Nobody gets every poll every time. |
| -Zogby: Mark Penn (Hillary's DLC pollster) is 'buckling under the pressure' |
jackbourassa |
Nov-28-07 01:06 AM |
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Zogby handled this with a lot of class unlike Mark Penn who denigrated them because it wasn't what |
saracat |
Nov-28-07 01:11 AM |
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Zogby poll was of Zogby members. Gallup had the opposite findings. |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-28-07 07:05 AM |
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Like Gallup has any credibility |
depakid |
Nov-28-07 07:24 AM |
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Zogby contradicts all other polling. Gallup shows same results as all non-Zogby polls. |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-28-07 07:26 AM |
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Not true |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 08:07 AM |
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If I am correct, Gallup's guy is a right wing who lives three feet up |
roguevalley |
Nov-28-07 01:06 PM |
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This interactive poll is a fraud. WHY? Because in my |
BenDavid |
Nov-28-07 01:13 AM |
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Oh Ben, get over yourself... |
jackbourassa |
Nov-28-07 01:18 AM |
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Riiiiiiight. It's Hillary who's conspiring. I keep forgetting. |
aquart |
Nov-28-07 02:25 AM |
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"But sometimes a poll is just a poll." |
quickesst |
Nov-28-07 07:03 AM |
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"Clinton trails top 2008 Republicans"/"Hillary beats all Republicans" |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-28-07 07:07 AM |
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We all know that multiple email addresses will gain you 'multiple votes' |
Texas_Kat |
Nov-28-07 01:20 AM |
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Have you ever taken a Zogby poll? I'm betting not. |
aquart |
Nov-28-07 02:30 AM |
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Yeah, in fact the one he's citing is sitting untaken in my email account right now |
Texas_Kat |
Nov-28-07 02:36 AM |
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I am signed up with Zogby with multiple emails and I haven't gotten anything from Zogby for awhile. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-28-07 02:44 AM |
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Check your junk mail folder |
Texas_Kat |
Nov-28-07 02:47 AM |
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I always do. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-28-07 03:05 AM |
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So only 5 of 53 saw this alleged e mail? |
Kucinich4America |
Nov-28-07 01:23 AM |
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They rotate the list. Nobody gets every poll every time. |
aquart |
Nov-28-07 02:32 AM |
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Gallup is no prize |
LittleClarkie |
Nov-28-07 01:35 AM |
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Gallup is a right-wing polling firm. |
provis99 |
Nov-28-07 01:44 AM |
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And Zogby Was Rush Limbaugh's Favorite Pollster! |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 07:10 AM |
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In all fairness, I think it is appropriate to see Zogby's methodology.... |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 07:29 AM |
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How do you know you have 53 friends? |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-28-07 08:43 AM |
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Why is Mark Penn dissing Zogby when he asks for more Zogby polling data than any other campaign? |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-28-07 01:26 AM |
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Penn doesn't like any poll he can't personally rig |
jgraz |
Nov-28-07 01:46 AM |
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that's like saying why do "progressives"* dis Hillary when they spend most of their time on her |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 07:12 AM |
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"the DLC's website is one of the most quoted websites on netroots land" |
1932 |
Nov-28-07 07:21 AM |
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uh huh. |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 07:25 AM |
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More than DailyKos? More than TPM? More than Huffington Report? More than Media Matters? |
1932 |
Nov-28-07 07:37 AM |
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probably not, but I didn't say it was THE most quoted... but if you want proof... |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 07:50 AM |
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600 times in about 20,000,000 posts? Search DailyKos, New York Times, TPM, Huffington, FreeRepublic |
1932 |
Nov-28-07 07:57 AM |
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why? Even if Dailykos, for example, is referenced more, it only proves... |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 08:07 AM |
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So, there's no threshold at which your claim is an exaggeration? |
1932 |
Nov-28-07 08:11 AM |
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not so sure about a "threshold." Surely you understand... |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 08:18 AM |
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Does it mean that DLC is one of the 10,000 most ref'd sites? One of the 100,000 most ref'd sites? |
1932 |
Nov-28-07 08:43 AM |
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ok, let's look at it another way |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 08:49 AM |
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The Zogby poll had Huckabee beating HRC. You really believe that? |
Rageneau |
Nov-28-07 02:35 AM |
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Morning Joe reported today that not only was Zogby poll valid, touted Gallup poll yesterday was old! |
flpoljunkie |
Nov-28-07 06:38 AM |
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So Now Joe Scarborough (R) Pensacola Is An Unbiased Source |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 06:54 AM |
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It's quite obvious how hard Joe works to promote Hillary's candidacy. Penn wrong about Zogby polls. |
flpoljunkie |
Nov-28-07 07:00 AM |
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And I Guess Mika Mika Brzezinksi Whose Dad And Brother Are Working For Obama Are In HRC's Camp Too! |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 07:08 AM |
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"Media Lavishes Attention On Bogus Internet Poll Showing Hillary Losing To Repubs" |
Perry Logan |
Nov-28-07 06:52 AM |
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Interesting |
HughMoran |
Nov-28-07 07:46 AM |
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Unfortunately for John Zogby (R-Fake Pollster), many people have debunked his polling |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 07:10 AM |
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Zogby is a Democrat I believe |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 07:41 AM |
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so? That doesn't erase his suspect polling techniques |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 07:54 AM |
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Suspected by whom? By those who don't like the results! |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 08:00 AM |
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numerous people. Here are some references you missed yesterday |
wyldwolf |
Nov-28-07 08:14 AM |
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Of course. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-28-07 08:44 AM |
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Rush Limbaugh- "Zogby's My Favorite Pollster" |
Perry Logan |
Nov-28-07 07:16 AM |
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He's A Clintonphobe For Sure |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 07:20 AM |
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You Notice Like The Clintonphobes I Don't Use Right Wing Sources |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 07:21 AM |
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Limbaugh could like the sun rising....doesn't mean the sun rising is conservative |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 07:47 AM |
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Fact is, Zogby is respected pollster. |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 08:00 AM |
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The why is it that Penn consults Zogby? |
earthlover |
Nov-28-07 08:04 AM |
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Zogby Said Penn Consults Him...Maybe He Does Or Maybe He Doesn't |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-28-07 08:09 AM |
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Feh...Polls |
kenfrequed |
Nov-28-07 10:27 AM |
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Zogby Interactive's record speaks for itself (it sucked in 2004 and 2006) |
rinsd |
Nov-28-07 02:03 PM |
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Thanks for all your comments...keep em coming |
jackbourassa |
Nov-28-07 09:34 PM |
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