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Zogby does do reliable, legitimate polling. This just wasn't one of them.
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| -New Zogby Poll: Hillary loses to ALL top Republicans; Obama and Edwards beat all |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-26-07 12:40 PM |
#0 |
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It's an online Zogby poll |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 12:41 PM |
#1 |
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His on line polls have been just as accurate as his other polls |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-26-07 12:47 PM |
#15 |
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Here's the Zogby link. Obama does best in the matchups. Hillary does not break 40% in any matchup. |
flpoljunkie |
Nov-26-07 06:14 PM |
#87 |
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Elect-ability |
CranialRectaLoopbak |
Nov-26-07 11:09 PM |
#115 |
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First of all, Rectal, Kerry WAS electable. And if not for electoral fraud, Kerry would be sitting |
Raster |
Nov-27-07 06:59 AM |
#151 |
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It can't be accurate.....I have proof |
dugggy |
Nov-26-07 11:32 PM |
#120 |
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I believe it is the same one I was emailed |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:16 PM |
#38 |
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Read my response to you in the other thread on this. |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 01:44 PM |
#51 |
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The personal negative attacks from Edwards, the GOP, Obama, et al are working. |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-26-07 05:32 PM |
#81 |
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The personal attacks probably are working |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 08:02 PM |
#100 |
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Rasmussen, Zogby agree on this. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-27-07 04:53 PM |
#200 |
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Better to learn of this now rather than later, as sad as it is. nt |
snappyturtle |
Nov-26-07 12:42 PM |
#2 |
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Exactly, she is definitly not going in the right direction. Not the one to |
EV_Ares |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#4 |
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CAN YOU LEARN OR JUST SWALLOW MEDIA HYPE? READ THIS |
bjobotts |
Nov-27-07 12:36 AM |
#130 |
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Yup. Zogby was manipulating primary polls in 2004 as well...hated Clark, wanted Dean |
robbedvoter |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#3 |
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Keep thinking that |
dmesg |
Nov-26-07 04:13 PM |
#70 |
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Bullshit. Just read this and you will see why the poll is bullshit. |
bjobotts |
Nov-27-07 12:28 AM |
#126 |
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There's a shock |
DS1 |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#5 |
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That's if and only |
obnoxiousdrunk |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#6 |
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Edwards is going to be the Iowa winner |
surfermaw |
Nov-27-07 09:22 AM |
#166 |
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...until people learn his record... |
Clark2008 |
Nov-27-07 10:48 AM |
#178 |
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Nice republican tactic you got going there. |
mrbluto |
Nov-27-07 12:39 PM |
#188 |
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An online poll... |
ilovesunshine |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#7 |
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I believe Hillary will bring more baggage in election then Obama |
Imagevision |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#8 |
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Everyone knows that. She is the most vulnerable in the GE. nm |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-26-07 12:44 PM |
#10 |
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Pretty much correct on that which is what is part of her problem and where |
EV_Ares |
Nov-26-07 12:45 PM |
#11 |
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Will be interesting to see what she tries to do to change things. |
EV_Ares |
Nov-26-07 12:45 PM |
#12 |
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That's obvious. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:08 PM |
#32 |
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I don't think she can. |
mzmolly |
Nov-26-07 01:48 PM |
#56 |
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I don't either. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:50 PM |
#58 |
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online poll. |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 12:43 PM |
#9 |
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I'm part of the Zogby online panel |
Katzenkavalier |
Nov-26-07 08:06 PM |
#101 |
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which is exactly why it isn't credible. |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 08:22 PM |
#106 |
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You can still randomize samples by narrowing the pool. |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-26-07 10:04 PM |
#111 |
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you can't randomize a non-random universe |
CreekDog |
Nov-26-07 11:27 PM |
#118 |
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and who is polling the youth vote with phone polling?? i know my son does not have a land line |
flyarm |
Nov-27-07 06:51 AM |
#149 |
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And? |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-27-07 07:55 AM |
#157 |
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The Bush approval rating by Zogby is a telephone poll! |
CreekDog |
Nov-27-07 08:08 AM |
#159 |
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He is using two different methodologies simultaneously? |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-27-07 08:27 AM |
#161 |
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yep, Zogby uses telephone for some surveys and "interactive" for online surveys |
CreekDog |
Nov-27-07 08:40 AM |
#162 |
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because people sign up to be polled. They don't sign up to be called |
wyldwolf |
Nov-27-07 04:36 AM |
#141 |
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see above |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-27-07 07:56 AM |
#158 |
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Well for one thing it means you have to be online. |
dmallind |
Nov-27-07 07:33 AM |
#154 |
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Size negates need for randomness |
hawkowl88 |
Nov-27-07 12:27 AM |
#125 |
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sorry, no. The people e-mailed have signed up to take polls. So it isn't random |
wyldwolf |
Nov-27-07 04:39 AM |
#142 |
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None of the polls are random. Phone polls have to correct their sampling errors, too, because men |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-27-07 09:15 AM |
#165 |
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Exactly. They have to adjust the raw, non-representative data |
krispos42 |
Nov-27-07 12:14 PM |
#186 |
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Do those people believe that Gallup just opens the phone book and dials 600 numbers at random? |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-27-07 03:11 PM |
#191 |
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They might... as long as they get demographic information from those 600 |
krispos42 |
Nov-28-07 02:31 AM |
#202 |
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To get a representative sample of 600, you either need to target call based on a prescreen of the |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-28-07 11:06 AM |
#205 |
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a common misconception -- you just get more precisely wrong results |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-27-07 10:13 AM |
#171 |
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So why is this any different than being selected to be contacted |
Cleita |
Nov-27-07 11:43 AM |
#183 |
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then it's not random...random sampling is accepted methodology |
CreekDog |
Nov-26-07 11:24 PM |
#117 |
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Fraudulent poll, please do not recommend this garbage |
Tarc |
Nov-26-07 12:45 PM |
#13 |
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The track record of his on line polls is just as good or better than his regular polling |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-26-07 12:49 PM |
#19 |
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So, you make up your mind, then look for polls to support it |
Tarc |
Nov-26-07 01:01 PM |
#26 |
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Are you sure you are not on Cheney's staff? |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-26-07 01:10 PM |
#35 |
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In over 4 years you post less than 400 times.... |
alittlelark |
Nov-26-07 01:18 PM |
#40 |
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Eh? |
Tarc |
Nov-26-07 06:58 PM |
#96 |
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Ya know what.... I've heard alot, a WHOLE lot that were 'dumber' |
alittlelark |
Nov-26-07 07:40 PM |
#99 |
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Stop lying, please |
Tarc |
Nov-28-07 08:09 AM |
#203 |
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Exactly... |
nankerphelge |
Nov-26-07 09:46 PM |
#110 |
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(smile) n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-27-07 10:22 AM |
#174 |
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I was polled |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:19 PM |
#41 |
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However |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 01:40 PM |
#49 |
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But Zogby chose me |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 02:46 PM |
#63 |
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True, they chose you but... |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 05:10 PM |
#75 |
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I am also Registered with Zogby |
mrone2 |
Nov-26-07 06:55 PM |
#93 |
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I was! |
Katzenkavalier |
Nov-26-07 08:09 PM |
#103 |
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What was Zogby's track record with interactive polling vs. the other big pollsters w/ random samples |
CreekDog |
Nov-26-07 11:31 PM |
#119 |
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The fact that people complete it online isn't a problem |
orangepeel68 |
Nov-26-07 01:59 PM |
#61 |
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Yes it less representative |
dmallind |
Nov-27-07 07:38 AM |
#155 |
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Ummm... no |
dmesg |
Nov-26-07 04:15 PM |
#71 |
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Ummm... yes |
Tarc |
Nov-26-07 06:56 PM |
#94 |
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On what grounds? |
dmesg |
Nov-26-07 07:06 PM |
#98 |
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so you prefer to discount random samples of people who register online for a polland have a computer |
CreekDog |
Nov-26-07 11:33 PM |
#121 |
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Maybe it's selfish; I have a computer and not a phone n/t |
dmesg |
Nov-27-07 01:53 AM |
#137 |
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we aren't talking about your lifestyle silly rabbit... |
CreekDog |
Nov-27-07 08:10 AM |
#160 |
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And I'm pointing out no poll is "random" |
dmesg |
Nov-27-07 12:46 PM |
#190 |
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Then all polls are invalid, as all participants in every poll choose to participate. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Nov-26-07 05:14 PM |
#77 |
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true in a way, but still there's a difference |
OnTheOtherHand |
Nov-27-07 10:18 AM |
#173 |
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AGREED AND HERE'S THE PROOF. READ THIS |
bjobotts |
Nov-27-07 12:38 AM |
#131 |
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This ought to be fun... |
havocmom |
Nov-26-07 12:46 PM |
#14 |
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OMG!!! and I trust this guy...............? |
Nimrod2005 |
Nov-26-07 12:47 PM |
#16 |
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I've lost respect for Zogby from these online polls |
progressoid |
Nov-26-07 12:48 PM |
#17 |
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Ditto |
peace frog |
Nov-27-07 05:28 AM |
#144 |
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On line poll...uh, ok... |
SaveElmer |
Nov-26-07 12:48 PM |
#18 |
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But does Gallup poll reach everyone? |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-26-07 12:57 PM |
#24 |
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Online polls are self selecting... |
SaveElmer |
Nov-26-07 01:03 PM |
#28 |
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And these days most people who are well off or middle class don't answer the phone if |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-26-07 01:06 PM |
#31 |
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what the hell are you arguing then? |
CreekDog |
Nov-26-07 11:35 PM |
#122 |
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Gallup oversamples conservatives |
provis99 |
Nov-26-07 11:53 PM |
#124 |
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This isn't that kind of "online poll" |
dmesg |
Nov-26-07 04:17 PM |
#72 |
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the participants of on line polls are self-selecting |
cali |
Nov-26-07 12:51 PM |
#20 |
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Exactly. The first question in Zogby's online polls is |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 01:30 PM |
#44 |
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Why does she not realize why the rePIGs want her to run????? |
Acadia Blue |
Nov-26-07 12:51 PM |
#21 |
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Quite a few ex "rePIGs" as you call them, will be voting for Hillary... |
ilovesunshine |
Nov-26-07 12:53 PM |
#22 |
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I saw a lady online today elsewhere who said she wanted to meet |
themartyred |
Nov-27-07 03:44 PM |
#193 |
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Your head's in the sand ... |
weeve |
Nov-26-07 12:55 PM |
#23 |
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Even if this poll is slightly off this is what caught my eye |
Quixote1818 |
Nov-26-07 01:00 PM |
#25 |
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I agree. Assuming the poll favors Repubs, that means Obama & Edwards are running stronger. nm |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-26-07 01:02 PM |
#27 |
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OLD Zogby Poll--MUST READ!!! |
MADem |
Nov-26-07 01:04 PM |
#29 |
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I think we should do away with recommends altogether and just let the mods promote certain topics nt |
Aya Reiko |
Nov-27-07 12:40 AM |
#132 |
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I voted in this poll. |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:06 PM |
#30 |
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Those questions at the end are all standard |
Gman |
Nov-26-07 01:38 PM |
#48 |
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Right |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:44 PM |
#52 |
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Yep that's the same poll I did |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 06:03 PM |
#85 |
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Only "mainstream" candidates? Zogby a predjudiced a-whole! |
BRLIB |
Nov-27-07 06:52 AM |
#150 |
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Clearly. |
davidwparker |
Nov-26-07 01:09 PM |
#33 |
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Last week when they polled Iowan's Hillary came in third |
Imagevision |
Nov-26-07 01:09 PM |
#34 |
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But First In OH, KY, and NM |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-26-07 01:17 PM |
#39 |
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How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-26-07 01:13 PM |
#36 |
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I just took that poll |
proud2Blib |
Nov-26-07 01:15 PM |
#37 |
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As a larger and larger segment of the population gives up land-line phone service, on-line polls are |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 01:23 PM |
#42 |
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Gallup has her beating all Republicans |
maddiejoan |
Nov-26-07 01:23 PM |
#43 |
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Remember , if it's bad news for Hillary, it's fraudulent |
Capn Sunshine |
Nov-26-07 01:32 PM |
#45 |
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Finally you got something right |
mtnsnake |
Nov-26-07 01:34 PM |
#46 |
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Everyone's been waiting and wondering about the turning point.... |
BringBigDogBack |
Nov-26-07 01:36 PM |
#47 |
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New Zogby poll: DUers will believe anything. |
Perry Logan |
Nov-26-07 01:42 PM |
#50 |
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or they'll jump for joy at anything negative about Hillary even if they know it's not true |
mtnsnake |
Nov-26-07 01:45 PM |
#53 |
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lol |
Bleachers7 |
Nov-26-07 01:45 PM |
#54 |
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Yeah but the Hillary people were touting the Zoby when it said she was ahead.So Zogby is accurate |
saracat |
Nov-26-07 01:59 PM |
#62 |
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totally agree. Hillbots only like polls favorable to them. nm |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-26-07 05:07 PM |
#74 |
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A swing and a miss |
Tarc |
Nov-26-07 07:00 PM |
#97 |
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Care to point to any specifics? |
D23MIURG23 |
Nov-26-07 10:11 PM |
#112 |
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I think Zogby does do some scientific polling the ways others do |
Sparkly |
Nov-27-07 10:15 AM |
#172 |
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Correction: DUers will believe anything if it bashes HRC. {nt} |
Aya Reiko |
Nov-27-07 12:42 AM |
#135 |
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i make no assumptions about |
elana i am |
Nov-26-07 01:47 PM |
#55 |
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To be fair, other polls don't show this to be the case: |
mzmolly |
Nov-26-07 01:50 PM |
#57 |
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After the holiday polls just starting.... |
suston96 |
Nov-26-07 01:56 PM |
#59 |
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This has always been the case.Only the blind refuse to acknowledge this fact and attack those |
saracat |
Nov-26-07 01:57 PM |
#60 |
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The "Aura of Inevitablility" Is Wearing Pretty Thin |
DrFunkenstein |
Nov-26-07 02:51 PM |
#64 |
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The tide is turning...big time. nt |
elizm |
Nov-26-07 03:26 PM |
#65 |
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Whether this poll is accurate or not, the truth remains that the risk does exist. |
ginchinchili |
Nov-26-07 03:38 PM |
#66 |
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A Link To The Poll |
dtotire |
Nov-26-07 03:44 PM |
#67 |
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Or perhaps they are just getting to know her! |
freefall |
Nov-27-07 06:30 AM |
#148 |
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To quote the good Doctor |
The Traveler |
Nov-26-07 03:49 PM |
#68 |
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So Hillary tanks in the polls and Hillbots rush to point out that Edwards lives in a larger house!!! |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 03:51 PM |
#69 |
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Zogby is a bushbot...can't believe him! |
Auntie Bush |
Nov-26-07 04:39 PM |
#73 |
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Zogby a bushbot? Hardly. Zogby charted Bush's lowest approval rating ever and low ratings generally |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 05:26 PM |
#79 |
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if he's a bushbot, then he should be showing Hillary |
sniffa |
Nov-26-07 05:38 PM |
#82 |
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Hillary = Mondale |
depakid |
Nov-26-07 05:12 PM |
#76 |
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Actually, Hillary = Muskie |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 05:19 PM |
#78 |
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Obama = McGovern |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 05:41 PM |
#83 |
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Except that Obama isn't a "left-wing dark horse candidate," and -- besides -- McGovern lost. |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 05:47 PM |
#84 |
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neither was McGovern... |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 08:08 PM |
#102 |
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That may well be |
depakid |
Nov-26-07 06:07 PM |
#86 |
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Edwards, Obama -- as long as we don't nominate a coporate lap dog I'll be happy. |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-26-07 06:15 PM |
#89 |
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Hillary = Nelson Rockefeller (but not quite as close to being a Democrat) |
Tejanocrat |
Nov-27-07 04:28 PM |
#196 |
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Hillary has so much baggage. |
Life Long Dem |
Nov-26-07 05:28 PM |
#80 |
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The November head-to-head SurveyUSA matchups had Obama leading Clinton by a wide margin. |
ClarkUSA |
Nov-26-07 06:14 PM |
#88 |
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you're referring to those surveyed in Iowa. The OP is discussiing a national poll. Not the same. |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 08:30 PM |
#108 |
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Looks more and more like the electability issue regarding Hillary is true |
illinoisprogressive |
Nov-26-07 06:18 PM |
#90 |
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That's a problem. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-26-07 06:31 PM |
#91 |
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WOW, There's a Surprise |
mrone2 |
Nov-26-07 06:50 PM |
#92 |
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Proud to do my part to help Democrats win in 08' by giving this the 34th rec. nt |
calteacherguy |
Nov-26-07 06:56 PM |
#95 |
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Amen! |
Katzenkavalier |
Nov-26-07 08:10 PM |
#104 |
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HEY GOOBER, IF THAT'S TRUE THEN READ THIS AND LEARN |
bjobotts |
Nov-27-07 12:32 AM |
#128 |
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The important thing is to destroy Hillary's candidacy. She is unfit for the office. n/t |
rolleitreks |
Nov-26-07 08:18 PM |
#105 |
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at all costs, huh? |
wyldwolf |
Nov-26-07 08:23 PM |
#107 |
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Which is part of the reason why I don't support Hillary. |
usregimechange |
Nov-26-07 09:18 PM |
#109 |
| -
When will Dems learn? |
brit54 |
Nov-26-07 10:29 PM |
#113 |
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This point needs to be hammered again and again: |
balantz |
Nov-26-07 11:04 PM |
#114 |
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DEMS LIKE YOU APPARENTLY DON'T LEARN. READ THIS: |
bjobotts |
Nov-27-07 12:35 AM |
#129 |
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Enough already! |
nxylas |
Nov-27-07 09:38 AM |
#169 |
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Been thru Ups & Downs Re- H.C., |
snot |
Nov-26-07 11:14 PM |
#116 |
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That vast expanse of land between the coasts does not suffer from Clinton nostalgia |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-26-07 11:41 PM |
#123 |
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This is a bogus poll. WHY? I contacted |
BenDavid |
Nov-27-07 12:31 AM |
#127 |
| -
Biased logic |
hawkowl88 |
Nov-27-07 12:41 AM |
#133 |
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Huckabee beats Hillary by five points. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-27-07 12:42 AM |
#134 |
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This poll is true. I can talk to anyone about Edwards but not Hillary. |
w4rma |
Nov-27-07 01:53 AM |
#136 |
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You think an online Zogby poll is accurate.. |
Tellurian |
Nov-27-07 07:39 AM |
#156 |
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if hil. is the nominee |
krj44 |
Nov-27-07 03:41 AM |
#138 |
| -
Clinton beats all in latest Gallup poll. And? |
wiley |
Nov-27-07 03:52 AM |
#139 |
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There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary will lose if nominated. |
bowens43 |
Nov-27-07 04:30 AM |
#140 |
| -
A Republican told me he would vote for the devil |
Blue Gardener |
Nov-27-07 05:28 AM |
#143 |
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good-she is almost as creepy as bush-- |
natrat |
Nov-27-07 06:17 AM |
#145 |
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What are you talking about? She's worse than bush |
cali |
Nov-27-07 06:27 AM |
#147 |
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hmm... |
indimuse |
Nov-27-07 06:26 AM |
#146 |
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Anybody but Hillary... |
mmarsh |
Nov-27-07 07:27 AM |
#153 |
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That says it all |
usregimechange |
Nov-27-07 07:16 AM |
#152 |
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If Hillary gets the nomination |
The Wizard |
Nov-27-07 08:54 AM |
#163 |
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Here in Texas, that's a dead certainty. She's down-ballot poison. |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-27-07 09:39 AM |
#170 |
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Wow Online polls are making it to the greatest page now |
durrrty libby |
Nov-27-07 09:11 AM |
#164 |
| -
Ok..here's my 2 cents (well, more like 20) |
terranincognito |
Nov-27-07 09:23 AM |
#167 |
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Personally I know nobody |
kiloman |
Nov-27-07 09:37 AM |
#168 |
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"Personally I know nobody Who would vote for Hillary Clinton." |
durrrty libby |
Nov-27-07 10:25 AM |
#175 |
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Clinton is not in anybodys best interests but her own. |
rAVES |
Nov-27-07 10:41 AM |
#176 |
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That's a big fat lie and you are in the category I mentioned |
durrrty libby |
Nov-27-07 11:15 AM |
#180 |
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You gotta problem with free speech pal |
kiloman |
Nov-27-07 11:34 AM |
#181 |
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Are you suggesting that if she's the nominee you will vote for a Repug instead?????? |
demo dutch |
Nov-27-07 12:17 PM |
#187 |
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The one thing I learned in a collage class tought by Zogby |
Bentcorner |
Nov-27-07 10:43 AM |
#177 |
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I didn't know Zogby taught collage. How artistic of him. |
Cleita |
Nov-27-07 11:47 AM |
#185 |
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That was meant to be "College". What good is a poll where you can't trust the results? |
Bentcorner |
Nov-27-07 12:40 PM |
#189 |
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Rasmussen's Florida polls confirms Hillary loses to the top 4 Republican candidates: |
Stop Cornyn |
Nov-27-07 11:15 AM |
#179 |
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I participated in that poll and it shows. n/t |
Cleita |
Nov-27-07 11:37 AM |
#182 |
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What about the other Democratic candidates? |
onehandle |
Nov-27-07 11:45 AM |
#184 |
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Richardson WILL beat them all. |
Carrieyazel |
Nov-27-07 03:15 PM |
#192 |
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Well this poll has been debunked. next. |
William769 |
Nov-27-07 04:25 PM |
#194 |
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by who? Hillary supporters. nm |
TeamJordan23 |
Nov-27-07 04:27 PM |
#195 |
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Guess again. |
William769 |
Nov-27-07 04:29 PM |
#197 |
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She's too polarizing, her negatives are too high. Obama or Edwards is our best bet. |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-27-07 04:32 PM |
#198 |
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It's astonishing to think ANY Republican would be ahead of any Dem... |
polichick |
Nov-27-07 04:51 PM |
#199 |
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This explains why rich right-wingers like Murdoch are giving Hillary money as well! |
Progressive Friend |
Nov-27-07 04:56 PM |
#201 |
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I agree 100%! |
Czolgosz |
Nov-28-07 08:34 AM |
#204 |
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