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| 105. "talking about October 2002" |
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Please explain, they all voted to go to war on 10/11, the Byrd Amendment was put forth the day before? That doesn't make sense, Clinton voted for the Byrd Amendment and then the next day voted to go to war? And you are blasting Edwards for that? Here are the dates: Question: On the Amendment (Byrd Amdt. No. 4869, As Amended ) Vote Number: 232 Vote Date: October 10, 2002, 09:43 AM Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/r... Question: On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 ) Vote Number: 237 Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Joint Resolution Passed http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/r... |
| -Kucinich blasts Edwards on IWR and credibility |
WesDem |
Nov-23-07 05:41 PM |
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Whoa, |
seasonedblue |
Nov-23-07 05:45 PM |
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Edwards draws on his trial lawyer skills to say/do anything to win. |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-24-07 07:27 AM |
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Kudos to Kucinich |
neutron |
Nov-24-07 09:26 AM |
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And you support Clinton? |
gmudem |
Nov-24-07 01:40 PM |
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so much for those who think there could be any kind of alliance |
cali |
Nov-23-07 05:45 PM |
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I guess Dennis has |
zidzi |
Nov-23-07 05:45 PM |
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JE made many many judgment errors during his short time as Senator. Actually |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 05:57 PM |
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I think there's a |
zidzi |
Nov-23-07 06:15 PM |
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The thing that gets me is that |
rjones2818 |
Nov-23-07 07:07 PM |
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That and ... |
WesDem |
Nov-23-07 07:22 PM |
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Yeah... |
rjones2818 |
Nov-23-07 07:25 PM |
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Hillary didn't read it either - |
waiting for hope |
Nov-23-07 08:21 PM |
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No, I don't |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 04:05 AM |
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Link? |
waiting for hope |
Nov-24-07 01:49 PM |
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Link - Byrd Amendment (2) |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 02:14 PM |
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But wouldn't this one be more in line? |
waiting for hope |
Nov-24-07 04:27 PM |
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Tit for tat? |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 06:14 PM |
#100 |
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"talking about October 2002" |
waiting for hope |
Nov-24-07 07:50 PM |
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Did I defend Clinton's IWR vote? No, I did not. |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 08:06 PM |
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I didn't ask for your defense, I |
waiting for hope |
Nov-24-07 08:50 PM |
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I choose accountability |
WesDem |
Nov-25-07 07:31 AM |
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Funny how he wasn't so anti-Edwards in '04. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 05:53 PM |
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Didn't all the things he's complaining about happen |
FreeState |
Nov-23-07 05:56 PM |
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No, they didn't all happen after '04. n/t |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:17 PM |
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Really? Which ones? N/T |
FreeState |
Nov-23-07 06:32 PM |
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Well, the patriot act was enacted in October 2001. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:42 PM |
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When did he change his positions, that is what DK was talking about |
FreeState |
Nov-23-07 06:55 PM |
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So it would have been alright if Edwards had stayed supporting the war and patriot act? |
slick8790 |
Nov-23-07 10:18 PM |
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No thats not what I said |
FreeState |
Nov-23-07 10:46 PM |
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They weren't competing for the same base in 2004 |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 09:22 AM |
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Yes- that is....odd. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-24-07 09:52 PM |
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Hey Kucinich, since your holier than thou...what about your waffling on abortion? |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-23-07 05:54 PM |
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Another JE supporter. JE the guy who voted WRONG on every important vote |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:06 PM |
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So Dennis waffling on abortion RIGHT before his Presidential run isn't fake? |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-23-07 06:08 PM |
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he isn't waffeling |
fenriswolf |
Nov-23-07 06:11 PM |
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Oh ok, gotcha. Dennis is the only candidate who can change positions... |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-23-07 06:15 PM |
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no but they do not state their positions clearly or they |
fenriswolf |
Nov-23-07 07:32 PM |
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Only I think Kucinich's change is worse. |
slick8790 |
Nov-23-07 10:21 PM |
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ok if thats the case |
fenriswolf |
Nov-24-07 07:21 PM |
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So you want the mother to have to carry a baby for 9 months just to make someone else happy? |
slick8790 |
Nov-24-07 08:49 PM |
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you took my point and blew it up |
fenriswolf |
Nov-24-07 09:56 PM |
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You are being totally hypocritical, Dennis may have changed on one issue - people do that at times |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:24 PM |
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Wow, that looked like a ten year old wrote it. And Edwards has only given one apology. |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-23-07 06:30 PM |
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Again, 1 change (or flip flop for DK) How many for JE? |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 07:00 PM |
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I like the way you think, madmunchie! |
Kahuna |
Nov-23-07 08:15 PM |
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Thank you so much!!!!! I wish there were more that thought like us |
madmunchie |
Nov-24-07 01:30 PM |
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There are plenty of us who think the way you do. |
seasonedblue |
Nov-24-07 01:35 PM |
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DK voted against the federal abortion ban. Edwards failed to. |
robbedvoter |
Nov-24-07 05:03 PM |
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Dennis acts like someone who's still living in his car. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-23-07 05:55 PM |
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Figures that a rotten low ass comment like that would come from a JE supporter. |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:04 PM |
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Dennis, is that you? |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-23-07 06:07 PM |
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sorry, anybody can see that was a personal attack on |
cali |
Nov-23-07 06:10 PM |
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Nov-23-07 06:19 PM |
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Don't go there. His SUPPORTERS? |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:25 PM |
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Exactly, JE voted more like a Republican when he was a Senator and |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:39 PM |
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Yes, he's a true Democrat and so am I. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:43 PM |
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Delude yourself as much as you can allow. |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:50 PM |
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Dude...do you need to get laid or something? |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:54 PM |
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If he is a true Democrat, then why do we need Republicans? |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 07:04 PM |
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Don't you realize |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:54 PM |
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Is this part of your Democratic values? OR did I miss the apology on this shit? |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 07:11 PM |
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Nov-23-07 06:27 PM |
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Honey, you can say something like that about |
zalinda |
Nov-23-07 06:35 PM |
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You don't find this statement embarrassing and not cool? |
WesDem |
Nov-23-07 06:46 PM |
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That statement wasn't about a supporter. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 06:58 PM |
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That statement was made *by* a supporter |
WesDem |
Nov-23-07 07:00 PM |
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I'm not the one who said it and I wouldn't have. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 07:05 PM |
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You have to admit that Kucinich does say things that are |
zalinda |
Nov-23-07 07:08 PM |
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Ok name one thing that kucinich has said about |
fenriswolf |
Nov-24-07 07:24 PM |
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Why are people afraid to take strong stances on their beliefs? |
madmunchie |
Nov-23-07 06:49 PM |
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Bravo!!!! |
Kahuna |
Nov-23-07 08:26 PM |
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Edwards RRROOOLLLZZZ, Koochie DRRROOOLLLZZZ!!!! Too bad, so sad.. |
Jim Sagle |
Nov-25-07 12:52 PM |
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That's a fucked up thing to say |
WesDem |
Nov-23-07 06:42 PM |
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Funny... |
rjones2818 |
Nov-23-07 07:09 PM |
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That is not cool. It's totally uncalled for. |
Kahuna |
Nov-23-07 08:17 PM |
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I don't get Dennis' axe to grind here |
adnelson60087 |
Nov-23-07 06:29 PM |
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I don't think it is just Edwards... |
AlertLurker |
Nov-23-07 06:40 PM |
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actually, the majority of dems in the House voted against |
cali |
Nov-24-07 04:23 AM |
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Anyone know if there has ever been a congressman elected to be president? |
1corona4u |
Nov-23-07 06:57 PM |
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Edwards won't lose votes over anything Kucinich says. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 07:02 PM |
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I was a part of the Iowa caucuses in 2004. |
MaggieSwanson |
Nov-23-07 10:14 PM |
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I was part of the Iowa caucus in 2004, too. |
Inspired |
Nov-23-07 10:50 PM |
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In my precinct, Edwards had a 3 delegates to spare, |
MaggieSwanson |
Nov-24-07 08:31 AM |
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Very interesting |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 10:12 AM |
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I never even read it was supposed to be both ways - though |
karynnj |
Nov-24-07 08:20 PM |
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I'm an Edwards supporter, but |
tired_old_fireman |
Nov-23-07 07:04 PM |
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I agree it does seem odd..... |
1corona4u |
Nov-23-07 07:09 PM |
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He's making the point about |
rjones2818 |
Nov-23-07 07:12 PM |
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Other candidates are after Edwards too |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-23-07 07:17 PM |
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Personally, I believe he never changed, but he knew how much was at stake in '04 |
1932 |
Nov-23-07 10:56 PM |
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I think he is doing this because they both appeal to the same |
madmunchie |
Nov-24-07 01:44 PM |
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This will hurt Dennis. |
Life Long Dem |
Nov-23-07 07:09 PM |
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Replace "Dennis" with "John" and the statement will be true. {nt} |
Aya Reiko |
Nov-24-07 05:39 AM |
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My thoughts exactly life long dem |
surfermaw |
Nov-24-07 07:04 PM |
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Thanks, Edwards has been attacking the record of other |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-23-07 07:16 PM |
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Precisely |
zulchzulu |
Nov-24-07 07:40 AM |
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Thanks, if you attack others expect your votes to be questioned. |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-24-07 02:45 PM |
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Remember when Edwards was Goody 2 Shoes and never attacked? |
neutron |
Nov-24-07 09:34 AM |
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Times have changed and welcome to DU :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-24-07 04:16 PM |
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Kicked for Kucinich |
creeksneakers2 |
Nov-23-07 07:20 PM |
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Maybe Kucinich is pushing back because he feels that Edwards |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-23-07 07:22 PM |
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Dennis, enjoy the $25 I just sent you |
zulchzulu |
Nov-23-07 10:42 PM |
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It's a good thing for Dennis that he has been consistent on issues like abortion |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-23-07 11:22 PM |
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this from the guy.. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-23-07 11:34 PM |
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Kerry was no way more pro-war than Edwards |
WesDem |
Nov-24-07 04:10 AM |
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Link...or something?? |
Desertrose |
Nov-24-07 02:55 PM |
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Kerry spoke against going to war before the invasion, |
karynnj |
Nov-24-07 08:19 PM |
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Dennis, John Edward is the closest thing to you we have. Trash someone else, please. n/t |
Seabiscuit |
Nov-23-07 11:56 PM |
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How close would that be? |
robbedvoter |
Nov-24-07 05:05 PM |
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Hmmm.... lesse here... |
Aya Reiko |
Nov-24-07 05:44 AM |
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Is there a real John Edwards? |
dogman |
Nov-24-07 05:59 AM |
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First question: Not anymore. Second question: He can't. |
MethuenProgressive |
Nov-24-07 07:31 AM |
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awesome |
Highway61 |
Nov-24-07 01:44 PM |
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Why listen to Dennis |
surfermaw |
Nov-24-07 07:17 PM |
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I think Edwards understands the mistakes he made. His wife |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-24-07 09:53 PM |
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BTW, I'd also like to point out the use of the word "blast," which even back in *2003* |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-24-07 09:55 PM |
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What a hopelessly convoluted thread this one is... |
hayu_lol |
Nov-24-07 10:55 PM |
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I get that way over some words, too |
WesDem |
Nov-25-07 07:37 AM |
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