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Tue Nov-20-07 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 62. The answer to that dilemma: |
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Hire enough adults to adequately supervise breaks, and keep schools small.
Overcrowding and under-staffing leads to loss of control.
Small schools, plenty of adults supervising all accessible areas, breaks in multiple shifts so that there aren't large crowds out all at once.
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| -Obama plan: reward teachers, lengthen school time |
babylonsister |
Nov-20-07 10:14 AM |
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as a teacher, |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 10:15 AM |
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I understand that you are not for it as a teacher, but there have been now many studies showing |
Mass |
Nov-20-07 10:20 AM |
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you know what would really help |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 10:30 AM |
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How is that going to give my kids breaks throughout the day? |
Mass |
Nov-20-07 10:38 AM |
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you may have a point regarding what's best for the kids |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 10:43 AM |
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Good point |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:16 PM |
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No real need to lengthen the school day... |
Mother Of Four |
Nov-20-07 08:08 PM |
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Do you have a link to those studies? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 05:59 PM |
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Tell it, Sister! n/t |
tblue37 |
Nov-20-07 06:37 PM |
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I am so over these false talking points!! |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:19 PM |
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They are trying to get the same sort of "accountability" on the college |
tblue37 |
Nov-20-07 10:38 PM |
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Did you know they are now testing Head Start kids? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 11:13 AM |
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More Breaks in a Long Day? |
LeFleur1 |
Nov-21-07 10:56 AM |
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Maybe he's trying to tackle the fact that the US is woefully |
babylonsister |
Nov-20-07 10:20 AM |
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The summer vacation here was about 2-1/2 months this year. |
Justyce |
Nov-20-07 10:25 AM |
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Well, my kids had no recess from september to december except for |
Mass |
Nov-20-07 10:34 AM |
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Our kids get no recess at all |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:20 PM |
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That's false |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:12 PM |
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Would you do me a HUGE favor and confirm that it's possible to track kids performance |
cryingshame |
Nov-21-07 09:00 AM |
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No kidding - Kids already spend plenty of time in school each day... |
Justyce |
Nov-20-07 10:20 AM |
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My kids have so many days off it's a joke |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 10:22 AM |
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Congresspeople ?\nt |
Mass |
Nov-20-07 10:23 AM |
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Yep...I'm all for pulling the plug on that too nt |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 10:25 AM |
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ok...you take the job then? |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 10:28 AM |
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Read the original post |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 11:16 AM |
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maybe, or maybe not |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 01:04 PM |
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Maybe it should be up to what's best for kids |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 01:12 PM |
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good luck... |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 01:21 PM |
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good riddance... |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 02:14 PM |
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nah... |
boricua79 |
Nov-20-07 03:09 PM |
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Please read my reply #73... |
Mother Of Four |
Nov-20-07 08:23 PM |
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Have you not heard about the teacher shortage? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:38 PM |
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There is a teacher shortage because there is a money shortage. |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 06:42 PM |
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It's really not that simple. |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:49 PM |
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Very few teachers in public school are education majors |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 06:55 PM |
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You have no idea what you are talking about |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:05 PM |
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Wha? |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 07:09 PM |
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I'm not surprised |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:11 PM |
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No teacher that I know of in my kids' middle school |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 07:16 PM |
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You have asked every teacher in that school what their degree is in? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:22 PM |
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Bullshit yourself. |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 07:31 PM |
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Read the fine print next time |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 08:46 AM |
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On second thought. |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:23 PM |
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Teacher certification in CA changes all the time, lol. |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 08:09 PM |
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There are some states, like Alaska, that will never meet the highly qualified mandate |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 08:56 AM |
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We have a problem in middle and high school in my state. |
LWolf |
Nov-21-07 09:20 AM |
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The sped teacher shortage in my district is due to this highly qualified requirement |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 10:35 AM |
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Irreplaceable? |
ThePowerofWill |
Nov-21-07 05:51 PM |
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My 2 cents, but you sure don't sound like you enjoy |
babylonsister |
Nov-20-07 03:52 PM |
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A few points from this teacher: |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 04:06 PM |
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Thank you. |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 06:24 PM |
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It's a contract thing. |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 07:13 PM |
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IMO the point of BTS should be more one of parent involvement |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 07:45 PM |
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The school I mentioned, |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 08:32 PM |
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If you really believe teachers are on vacation all summer, |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:30 PM |
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I keep in touch with a bunch of friends from college |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 06:38 PM |
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And I am sure I know a whole lot more teachers than you do |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:45 PM |
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As a parent, I am not in favor either. Children need time to be "children." |
mzmolly |
Nov-20-07 05:51 PM |
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I taught in an elementary school where the kids were there from... |
rucky |
Nov-20-07 06:45 PM |
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We have a couple charter schools here doing that |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:51 PM |
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One can hope. |
rucky |
Nov-20-07 07:03 PM |
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I'm a teacher...and I DO need more time to teach... |
elizm |
Nov-20-07 07:17 PM |
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I don't know if the school day needs to be lengthened, but it does need to be restructured. |
hedgehog |
Nov-20-07 10:47 AM |
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The answer to that dilemma: |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 07:17 PM |
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Obama unveils $18 billion education plan, fix NCLB |
babylonsister |
Nov-20-07 11:00 AM |
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Lengthening the school day is just as bogus idea as constant testing (the Bush approach) |
JCMach1 |
Nov-20-07 11:00 AM |
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"Reward pay" is not "Merit pay." |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 01:25 PM |
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Rewards should go to teachers who effectively help |
harun |
Nov-20-07 04:56 PM |
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That's basing "rewards" on test scores, |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 05:13 PM |
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It is no different than bonus's at a company that are tied to many |
harun |
Nov-20-07 09:51 PM |
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In is NOTHING like sales bonuses. |
LWolf |
Nov-21-07 08:11 AM |
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I am not suggesting they don't work hard enough |
harun |
Nov-21-07 08:45 AM |
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One person's "a lot" of teachers is not a significant sample. |
LWolf |
Nov-21-07 09:11 AM |
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How much do you think the problem is with the culture in the |
harun |
Nov-21-07 03:49 PM |
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U.S. culture is a big factor, |
LWolf |
Nov-21-07 04:59 PM |
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There's a good reason you saw that |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 08:42 AM |
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Why would the administrators get that much power? |
harun |
Nov-21-07 08:48 AM |
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the "business model". |
ulysses |
Nov-21-07 09:00 AM |
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Education is like any other business in that respect |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 09:01 AM |
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America has been convinced our public schools are failures |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 10:41 AM |
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My kids are disabled; they are in the first percentile |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:00 PM |
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In my opinion the most important job is the teacher who helps |
harun |
Nov-20-07 09:58 PM |
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I'm not seeing the incentive. |
ulysses |
Nov-21-07 08:55 AM |
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And don't forget the same administrators making these decisions |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 09:09 AM |
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but they're paragons of objectivity, those admins! |
ulysses |
Nov-21-07 09:12 AM |
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I have one of the few good ones and she is losing her mind |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 10:37 AM |
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You and Proud make a really important point: |
LWolf |
Nov-21-07 01:15 PM |
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I'd be happy with air conditioning |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 06:52 PM |
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That, too. |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 07:22 PM |
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Check your PMs |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:25 PM |
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in what way are "incentives" not "merit pay"? |
ulysses |
Nov-20-07 03:40 PM |
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I think he's actually talking about pre-school. |
ellisonz |
Nov-20-07 04:47 PM |
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As a teacher, I have to say that I am getting really tired |
irkthesmirk |
Nov-20-07 05:25 PM |
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I'll second your points, too, |
LWolf |
Nov-20-07 06:05 PM |
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You make some excellent points too, LWolf! |
irkthesmirk |
Nov-20-07 06:47 PM |
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I think Americans do value education |
GreenArrow |
Nov-20-07 06:39 PM |
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I don't disagree but, what is the solution then? |
skipos |
Nov-20-07 06:42 PM |
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Any suggestions? |
wtmusic |
Nov-20-07 06:45 PM |
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We don't value kids in our society |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:09 PM |
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Whether or not, or how, American education needs to de fixed IS debatable |
irkthesmirk |
Nov-20-07 07:44 PM |
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It is not valid to compare our kids test scores to other countries |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 07:47 PM |
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Right, but if you look at the stats, you will see that our 4th graders fare much better than average |
irkthesmirk |
Nov-20-07 08:18 PM |
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Yes we do need to borrow ideas and share with other countries |
proud2Blib |
Nov-20-07 09:36 PM |
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Kids raise their hand to show they know something |
harun |
Nov-21-07 08:52 AM |
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Wow where did you ever get that idea? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-21-07 09:12 AM |
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For conscientious teachers, the day is already kind of long. Extra time would most likely |
Karmadillo |
Nov-20-07 07:34 PM |
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As a teacher, I have to say, this is so wrong. |
smalll |
Nov-20-07 09:53 PM |
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Problems with teacher burnout |
lwfern |
Nov-21-07 09:39 AM |
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