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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:28 AM
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42. eh?
first off, goal posts are traditionally wood, not iron, but whatever.

second off, if you are going to stake your plan on withdrawal and replacement by a UNPK force, you better have a good idea of which countries are interested in supplying peacekeepers to help out (you know that peacekeeping is a voluntary contribution to the UN, there are no mandates, it requires countries to volunteer to send their soldiers (yes, peacekeepers are made up of military units under UN control) into the contested area and stand between two or more warring factions wearing blue helmets. Peacekeepers tend to work when a: the parties involved are exhausted and simply want breathing room to negotiate (no evidence this is the case in Iraq) and b: when they are backed by the threat of major military force from an uninvolved party. Peacekeepers worked in Kosovo, sort of, because they were backed by the big stick of the US military. the US, under Clinton, made it perfectly clear that any action against peacekeepers would be met with US and NATO military force. to say that the UN will solve the problem in Iraq is to demand further scrutiny and explanations about how this would work. I mean, how's that peacekeeping force in Darfur coming along? what's that you say? the UN hasn't been able to convince itself to send peacekeepers to stop a genocide, and you think it's possible to stop a civil war between armed parties?
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  - Richardson gets treated like a Wall Flower because he is.  merwin   Nov-18-07 03:01 AM   #1 
  - Without Al, the only real choice is DENNIS KUCINICH!!  diva77   Nov-18-07 03:11 AM   #2 
  - go to his website  northzax   Nov-18-07 03:16 AM   #3 
  - Ron Paul takes corporate money  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 03:56 AM   #4 
     - please list here the countries that you think  northzax   Nov-18-07 04:01 AM   #5 
     - That sound of iron bending you hear  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 04:23 AM   #9 
     - eh?  northzax   Nov-19-07 08:28 AM   #42 
     - I wondered if someone would mention that.  aquart   Nov-18-07 04:29 AM   #10 
        - The Congo n/t  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 04:31 AM   #11 
           - Do you think this mandate would work in Iraq?  aquart   Nov-18-07 04:32 AM   #12 
              - It worked  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 04:37 AM   #13 
                 - Looks good from here.  aquart   Nov-18-07 05:13 AM   #16 
     - please list here the countries that you think  northzax   Nov-18-07 04:01 AM   #6 
        - You're plagierizing  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 04:22 AM   #8 
           - Yeah...  1corona4u   Nov-18-07 02:53 PM   #27 
           - Yeah, Biden supporters have no problem  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 05:26 PM   #34 
           - whoa there, nelly  northzax   Nov-19-07 08:54 AM   #43 
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  - Kuchinich is a hypocrite  silverojo   Nov-18-07 04:49 AM   #14 
  - Read his voting history  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 04:57 AM   #15 
  - Go to his own web site...he promises to ban all handguns and the most popular civilian rifles.  benEzra   Nov-18-07 11:37 AM   #25 
     - 1 in 4  inthebrain   Nov-18-07 05:11 PM   #32 
        - Read what I wrote again.  benEzra   Nov-18-07 05:44 PM   #38 
  - Close, but no cigar  riqster   Nov-19-07 08:11 AM   #41 
  - Can I do one then the other?  Cobalt-60   Nov-18-07 05:20 AM   #17 
  - He isnt getting the nomination.  johncoby2   Nov-18-07 05:30 AM   #18 
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  - Of course, that argument is totally dishonest without the proper context...  Alexander   Nov-18-07 05:41 PM   #37 
  - No thank you.too whiny n/t  bluedog   Nov-18-07 03:03 PM   #29 
  - He's right on the issues across the board, so I agree.  mmonk   Nov-18-07 05:39 PM   #35 
  - Haven't you heard?  Truth2Tell   Nov-18-07 11:22 PM   #39 
 

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