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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. I think its too late to avoid the issue. I just learned Biden
followed Dodd's lead on this and if they are smart the other will shift too.

I think I am with Biden now.
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  -Poll: Driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants? conservdem  Nov-02-07 07:26 PM   #0 
  - "I am very much in favor of fixing our boarder problems"  ImpeechBush   Nov-02-07 07:32 PM   #1 
  - It was a typo. Thanks for pointing it out.  conservdem   Nov-02-07 07:40 PM   #9 
  - Does anyone else see this as real problem for us?  conservdem   Nov-02-07 07:32 PM   #2 
  - Drivers licenses  john4012   Nov-03-07 01:07 PM   #27 
     - This is an additional serious problem with the issue. Republicans  conservdem   Nov-03-07 01:13 PM   #29 
  - .  conservdem   Nov-02-07 07:32 PM   #3 
  - I have been saying for 6 months that the pukes were going to make this THE issue in the  OregonBlue   Nov-02-07 07:38 PM   #7 
     - I agree. If I was them, I would run on the issue and it will probably  conservdem   Nov-02-07 07:45 PM   #10 
     - You are so right! Dems must not allow themselves to be drawn into the debate on it.  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 02:53 PM   #76 
        - I think its too late to avoid the issue. I just learned Biden  conservdem   Nov-04-07 03:00 PM   #77 
           - What did Biden say? Is there a link to his ideas on immigration reform?  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:11 PM   #80 
              - Here's a link.  conservdem   Nov-04-07 05:20 PM   #93 
  - I agree with YOU on ALL points.  Double T   Nov-02-07 07:33 PM   #4 
  - I thought he was an excellent AG.  conservdem   Nov-02-07 07:36 PM   #6 
     - Spitzer has turned out to be lousy, arrogant, tyrannical Governor.........  Double T   Nov-02-07 07:39 PM   #8 
  - What a weird concept  DS1   Nov-02-07 07:34 PM   #5 
  - why do we need a driver's license?  shireen   Nov-02-07 07:48 PM   #11 
  - Also you can't get auto insurance without a license.  seasat   Nov-02-07 08:07 PM   #12 
  - You really think many illegal aliens are going to be seeking a  conservdem   Nov-02-07 08:12 PM   #16 
  - No but more will buy insurance than if they continue unlicensed  seasat   Nov-03-07 12:33 PM   #25 
  - The fine here for driving without insurance is $800  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 11:29 AM   #60 
     - I doubt they get prosecuted much on this type of charge.  conservdem   Nov-04-07 11:40 AM   #63 
        - I seriously doubt you live here  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 01:26 PM   #71 
           - I do not live in KS if that is the state you are speaking of.  conservdem   Nov-04-07 01:34 PM   #72 
  - In CA you can't get a DL  Bennyboy   Nov-03-07 01:46 PM   #31 
  - That is not correct  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:21 AM   #49 
  - Sure, so would I. But are you willing to lose the election on this issue?  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:01 PM   #78 
  - In New Haven, we have taken care of your # 2, as we have resident ID cards  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:16 PM   #81 
  - There is no reason for a presidential candidate to have a position.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-02-07 08:08 PM   #13 
  - But it won't stop there. The Pukes are getting ready to make illegal immigration their platform for  OregonBlue   Nov-02-07 08:12 PM   #15 
  - That's kind of a cop out. And they have already taken a position.  conservdem   Nov-03-07 11:01 AM   #23 
  - The driver's license becomes a federal matter when the license  amandabeech   Nov-04-07 02:40 PM   #74 
  - I agree that it would be politically difficult to advocate any so-called benefit...  SaveElmer   Nov-02-07 08:09 PM   #14 
  - How "difficult"?  conservdem   Nov-02-07 08:20 PM   #17 
     - I think that is an overstatement...  SaveElmer   Nov-02-07 08:24 PM   #19 
        - Oh, Thank you Elmer!  polmaven   Nov-02-07 08:52 PM   #20 
        - Hillary and all but Dodd will be seen as supporting the concept  conservdem   Nov-03-07 09:09 AM   #22 
  - You need an "other." I don't support the concept except as a safety measure in the current crises  calteacherguy   Nov-02-07 08:23 PM   #18 
  - My thoughts exactly.  wlucinda   Nov-03-07 01:55 PM   #32 
  - Oh, stop being so rational! You and I both know being rational on this issue  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:09 PM   #79 
  - Good policy? Bad policy? I don't care. It is dumb politically  LVZ   Nov-02-07 09:03 PM   #21 
  - I support DL for undocumented immigrants  supernova   Nov-03-07 11:39 AM   #24 
  - Do see this issue hurting our chances at winning the Whitehouse?  conservdem   Nov-03-07 01:00 PM   #26 
  - I see it as an education issue  supernova   Nov-03-07 01:13 PM   #28 
     - Education is fine for those IN POWER, otherwise NUANCE is a losing proposition in elections  LVZ   Nov-03-07 01:37 PM   #30 
     - It's the same mindset  Orangeone   Nov-03-07 02:12 PM   #34 
     - So are you suggesting it will not hurt our chances?  conservdem   Nov-03-07 07:15 PM   #36 
        - I'm saying I think it won't  supernova   Nov-03-07 07:33 PM   #41 
           - I doubt that will hold up.  conservdem   Nov-03-07 07:53 PM   #44 
              - And I think your attitude  supernova   Nov-03-07 08:22 PM   #45 
                 - Isn't this a web site for Democrats?  conservdem   Nov-04-07 08:47 AM   #47 
  - People who oppose them on this board tend to be from non-border states  thecatburgler   Nov-03-07 07:25 PM   #38 
  - Your post suggest you have a sense of how this issue is viewed here.  conservdem   Nov-03-07 07:41 PM   #43 
  - I think California qualifies as a border state  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:27 AM   #50 
     - So making sure no one can get it if they are undocumented is the answer? nt  thecatburgler   Nov-04-07 11:01 AM   #56 
     - thecatburgler  conservdem   Nov-04-07 11:13 AM   #57 
     - Looks like they're not.  thecatburgler   Nov-04-07 11:35 AM   #61 
     - I did not say they should be able to get some kind of driver's license  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 11:17 AM   #58 
     - And do we really KNOW that undocumented drivers cause more accidents than citizens?  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:29 PM   #82 
        - Is this supposed to be a response to something I wrote?  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 03:40 PM   #85 
           - ooops, I may have responded incorrectly! Sorry. n/t  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:51 PM   #89 
  - I see a flaw in your logic  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:31 AM   #52 
  - They have to learn them to get the license  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 03:31 PM   #83 
     - Yes, and...  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 03:39 PM   #84 
        - And refusing to let them get licenses is a better idea?  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 03:46 PM   #87 
           - One more time with feeling...  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 04:31 PM   #91 
  - Thank you  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 11:36 AM   #62 
     - Do you think allowing them licenses will encourage, discourage  conservdem   Nov-04-07 11:48 AM   #65 
        - They don't come here to get drivers licenses  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 02:38 PM   #73 
           - That may be a good way, but I doubt it's the "only way."  conservdem   Nov-04-07 02:41 PM   #75 
  - politically, no ... common sense wise, yes  Magic Rat   Nov-03-07 01:58 PM   #33 
  - What do you mean by "It better not"?  conservdem   Nov-03-07 02:41 PM   #35 
  - I'm for it  Heaven and Earth   Nov-03-07 07:22 PM   #37 
  - Giving someone a license doesn't make them a safer driver  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:28 AM   #51 
  - if the climate collapses, borders will be meaningless. let's  mopinko   Nov-03-07 07:25 PM   #39 
  - I see lots of wrecks in Charlotte,  surfermaw   Nov-03-07 07:26 PM   #40 
  - Do you think this is going to get better or worse under a Republican  conservdem   Nov-03-07 07:38 PM   #42 
     - I'm not interested in capturing the votes  supernova   Nov-03-07 08:39 PM   #46 
  - Not enough choices, so I voted Against - explanation follows  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:19 AM   #48 
  - Sorry I did not have a better choice for you.  conservdem   Nov-04-07 09:36 AM   #53 
  - If the stigma would prevent someone from applying, I say tough shit  slackmaster   Nov-04-07 09:56 AM   #54 
     - I hope the Dems running now take a look at what happened in  conservdem   Nov-04-07 10:02 AM   #55 
  - My state, Arizona, changed the ID requirements for voter registration  thecatburgler   Nov-04-07 11:47 AM   #64 
     - Our New Haven city resident ID card cannot be used to register to vote.  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 03:40 PM   #86 
        - That's a good idea.  thecatburgler   Nov-04-07 03:50 PM   #88 
           - Adequate voting machines that work, vigorous enforcement of laws  CTyankee   Nov-04-07 04:04 PM   #90 
  - I want them to have insurance  proud2Blib   Nov-04-07 11:27 AM   #59 
  - I am surprised by these results. Are they  conservdem   Nov-04-07 12:17 PM   #66 
  - I guarantee the proportions would be reversed,  Basileus Basileon   Nov-04-07 12:18 PM   #67 
  - So you do not think these numbers are a fair  conservdem   Nov-04-07 12:22 PM   #68 
  - Well, I think they are, sort of.  Basileus Basileon   Nov-04-07 12:24 PM   #69 
     - I agree that not giving illegals licenses will not keep them  conservdem   Nov-04-07 12:45 PM   #70 
        - I think dems will fix it, but first they have to get ELECTED!  CTyankee   Nov-05-07 07:46 AM   #97 
  - I agree with you. Kinda sad reflection on this community n/t  maximusveritas   Nov-04-07 04:33 PM   #92 
  - It's up to the state  treestar   Nov-04-07 07:02 PM   #94 
  - Do you think this issue will hurt us?  conservdem   Nov-04-07 11:13 PM   #96 
  - Would the driving license be like an occupational license?  zulchzulu   Nov-04-07 07:12 PM   #95 
  - kick  conservdem   Nov-05-07 05:51 PM   #98 
  - kick  conservdem   Nov-06-07 06:34 AM   #99 
  - kick  conservdem   Nov-07-07 06:40 AM   #100 
  - The notion of issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens -  Vinca   Nov-07-07 06:46 AM   #101 
  - I agree that it will kill our chances.  conservdem   Nov-07-07 06:53 AM   #102 
  - do you think all "illegal aliens" should be deported -- every last one of them?  onenote   Nov-08-07 06:59 AM   #104 
     - If someone turns up to apply for a license and they're an illegal alien,  Vinca   Nov-08-07 07:30 AM   #105 
     - so, again, do you favor a "don't ask, don't tell" policy?  onenote   Nov-08-07 07:56 AM   #106 
        - If I had the solution I wouldn't be a struggling, self-employed person  Vinca   Nov-08-07 12:56 PM   #107 
     - The more important thing to address is stooping the number of  conservdem   Nov-08-07 05:51 PM   #108 
  - kick  conservdem   Nov-08-07 06:48 AM   #103 
 

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