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Sat Nov-03-07 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 46. I'm not interested in capturing the votes |
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of people who would rather this was 1945 than 2007.
Where this world is headed, conservatives are risking being left behind in the dust of globalization, not just of business and profit taking but of humankind.
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| -Poll: Driver's licenses for undocumented immigrants? |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:26 PM |
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"I am very much in favor of fixing our boarder problems" |
ImpeechBush |
Nov-02-07 07:32 PM |
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It was a typo. Thanks for pointing it out. |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:40 PM |
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Does anyone else see this as real problem for us? |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:32 PM |
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Drivers licenses |
john4012 |
Nov-03-07 01:07 PM |
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This is an additional serious problem with the issue. Republicans |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 01:13 PM |
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conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:32 PM |
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I have been saying for 6 months that the pukes were going to make this THE issue in the |
OregonBlue |
Nov-02-07 07:38 PM |
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I agree. If I was them, I would run on the issue and it will probably |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:45 PM |
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You are so right! Dems must not allow themselves to be drawn into the debate on it. |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 02:53 PM |
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I think its too late to avoid the issue. I just learned Biden |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 03:00 PM |
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What did Biden say? Is there a link to his ideas on immigration reform? |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:11 PM |
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Here's a link. |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 05:20 PM |
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I agree with YOU on ALL points. |
Double T |
Nov-02-07 07:33 PM |
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I thought he was an excellent AG. |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 07:36 PM |
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Spitzer has turned out to be lousy, arrogant, tyrannical Governor......... |
Double T |
Nov-02-07 07:39 PM |
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What a weird concept |
DS1 |
Nov-02-07 07:34 PM |
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why do we need a driver's license? |
shireen |
Nov-02-07 07:48 PM |
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Also you can't get auto insurance without a license. |
seasat |
Nov-02-07 08:07 PM |
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You really think many illegal aliens are going to be seeking a |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 08:12 PM |
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No but more will buy insurance than if they continue unlicensed |
seasat |
Nov-03-07 12:33 PM |
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The fine here for driving without insurance is $800 |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 11:29 AM |
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I doubt they get prosecuted much on this type of charge. |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 11:40 AM |
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I seriously doubt you live here |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 01:26 PM |
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I do not live in KS if that is the state you are speaking of. |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 01:34 PM |
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In CA you can't get a DL |
Bennyboy |
Nov-03-07 01:46 PM |
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That is not correct |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:21 AM |
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Sure, so would I. But are you willing to lose the election on this issue? |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:01 PM |
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In New Haven, we have taken care of your # 2, as we have resident ID cards |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:16 PM |
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There is no reason for a presidential candidate to have a position. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-02-07 08:08 PM |
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But it won't stop there. The Pukes are getting ready to make illegal immigration their platform for |
OregonBlue |
Nov-02-07 08:12 PM |
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That's kind of a cop out. And they have already taken a position. |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 11:01 AM |
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The driver's license becomes a federal matter when the license |
amandabeech |
Nov-04-07 02:40 PM |
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I agree that it would be politically difficult to advocate any so-called benefit... |
SaveElmer |
Nov-02-07 08:09 PM |
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How "difficult"? |
conservdem |
Nov-02-07 08:20 PM |
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I think that is an overstatement... |
SaveElmer |
Nov-02-07 08:24 PM |
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Oh, Thank you Elmer! |
polmaven |
Nov-02-07 08:52 PM |
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Hillary and all but Dodd will be seen as supporting the concept |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 09:09 AM |
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You need an "other." I don't support the concept except as a safety measure in the current crises |
calteacherguy |
Nov-02-07 08:23 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. |
wlucinda |
Nov-03-07 01:55 PM |
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Oh, stop being so rational! You and I both know being rational on this issue |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:09 PM |
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Good policy? Bad policy? I don't care. It is dumb politically |
LVZ |
Nov-02-07 09:03 PM |
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I support DL for undocumented immigrants |
supernova |
Nov-03-07 11:39 AM |
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Do see this issue hurting our chances at winning the Whitehouse? |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 01:00 PM |
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I see it as an education issue |
supernova |
Nov-03-07 01:13 PM |
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Education is fine for those IN POWER, otherwise NUANCE is a losing proposition in elections |
LVZ |
Nov-03-07 01:37 PM |
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It's the same mindset |
Orangeone |
Nov-03-07 02:12 PM |
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So are you suggesting it will not hurt our chances? |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 07:15 PM |
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I'm saying I think it won't |
supernova |
Nov-03-07 07:33 PM |
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I doubt that will hold up. |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 07:53 PM |
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And I think your attitude |
supernova |
Nov-03-07 08:22 PM |
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Isn't this a web site for Democrats? |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 08:47 AM |
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People who oppose them on this board tend to be from non-border states |
thecatburgler |
Nov-03-07 07:25 PM |
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Your post suggest you have a sense of how this issue is viewed here. |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 07:41 PM |
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I think California qualifies as a border state |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:27 AM |
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So making sure no one can get it if they are undocumented is the answer? nt |
thecatburgler |
Nov-04-07 11:01 AM |
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thecatburgler |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 11:13 AM |
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Looks like they're not. |
thecatburgler |
Nov-04-07 11:35 AM |
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I did not say they should be able to get some kind of driver's license |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 11:17 AM |
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And do we really KNOW that undocumented drivers cause more accidents than citizens? |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:29 PM |
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Is this supposed to be a response to something I wrote? |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 03:40 PM |
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ooops, I may have responded incorrectly! Sorry. n/t |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:51 PM |
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I see a flaw in your logic |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:31 AM |
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They have to learn them to get the license |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 03:31 PM |
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Yes, and... |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 03:39 PM |
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And refusing to let them get licenses is a better idea? |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 03:46 PM |
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One more time with feeling... |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 04:31 PM |
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Thank you |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 11:36 AM |
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Do you think allowing them licenses will encourage, discourage |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 11:48 AM |
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They don't come here to get drivers licenses |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 02:38 PM |
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That may be a good way, but I doubt it's the "only way." |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 02:41 PM |
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politically, no ... common sense wise, yes |
Magic Rat |
Nov-03-07 01:58 PM |
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What do you mean by "It better not"? |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 02:41 PM |
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I'm for it |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-03-07 07:22 PM |
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Giving someone a license doesn't make them a safer driver |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:28 AM |
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if the climate collapses, borders will be meaningless. let's |
mopinko |
Nov-03-07 07:25 PM |
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I see lots of wrecks in Charlotte, |
surfermaw |
Nov-03-07 07:26 PM |
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Do you think this is going to get better or worse under a Republican |
conservdem |
Nov-03-07 07:38 PM |
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I'm not interested in capturing the votes |
supernova |
Nov-03-07 08:39 PM |
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Not enough choices, so I voted Against - explanation follows |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:19 AM |
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Sorry I did not have a better choice for you. |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 09:36 AM |
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If the stigma would prevent someone from applying, I say tough shit |
slackmaster |
Nov-04-07 09:56 AM |
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I hope the Dems running now take a look at what happened in |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 10:02 AM |
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My state, Arizona, changed the ID requirements for voter registration |
thecatburgler |
Nov-04-07 11:47 AM |
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Our New Haven city resident ID card cannot be used to register to vote. |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 03:40 PM |
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That's a good idea. |
thecatburgler |
Nov-04-07 03:50 PM |
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Adequate voting machines that work, vigorous enforcement of laws |
CTyankee |
Nov-04-07 04:04 PM |
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I want them to have insurance |
proud2Blib |
Nov-04-07 11:27 AM |
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I am surprised by these results. Are they |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 12:17 PM |
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I guarantee the proportions would be reversed, |
Basileus Basileon |
Nov-04-07 12:18 PM |
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So you do not think these numbers are a fair |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 12:22 PM |
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Well, I think they are, sort of. |
Basileus Basileon |
Nov-04-07 12:24 PM |
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I agree that not giving illegals licenses will not keep them |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 12:45 PM |
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I think dems will fix it, but first they have to get ELECTED! |
CTyankee |
Nov-05-07 07:46 AM |
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I agree with you. Kinda sad reflection on this community n/t |
maximusveritas |
Nov-04-07 04:33 PM |
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It's up to the state |
treestar |
Nov-04-07 07:02 PM |
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Do you think this issue will hurt us? |
conservdem |
Nov-04-07 11:13 PM |
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Would the driving license be like an occupational license? |
zulchzulu |
Nov-04-07 07:12 PM |
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kick |
conservdem |
Nov-05-07 05:51 PM |
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kick |
conservdem |
Nov-06-07 06:34 AM |
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kick |
conservdem |
Nov-07-07 06:40 AM |
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The notion of issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens - |
Vinca |
Nov-07-07 06:46 AM |
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I agree that it will kill our chances. |
conservdem |
Nov-07-07 06:53 AM |
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do you think all "illegal aliens" should be deported -- every last one of them? |
onenote |
Nov-08-07 06:59 AM |
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If someone turns up to apply for a license and they're an illegal alien, |
Vinca |
Nov-08-07 07:30 AM |
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so, again, do you favor a "don't ask, don't tell" policy? |
onenote |
Nov-08-07 07:56 AM |
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If I had the solution I wouldn't be a struggling, self-employed person |
Vinca |
Nov-08-07 12:56 PM |
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The more important thing to address is stooping the number of |
conservdem |
Nov-08-07 05:51 PM |
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kick |
conservdem |
Nov-08-07 06:48 AM |
#103 |
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