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Response to Reply #174
175. I would have to see what she has said
on it, I would be surprised if she was pushing big weapons systems at this stage. Not surprised if she is talking about increasing the forces and their defensive armament etc.
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  -Why do any Democrats who want to end the war / and do not want to start another war support Hillary? saracat  Oct-29-07 03:00 PM   #0 
  - No, she doesn't want to end the war.  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:05 PM   #1 
  - Where has Senator Clinton said that she "doesn't want to end the Iraq War"? n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:07 PM   #3 
     - I know she's said she wants to change the mission.  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:08 PM   #5 
     - "If you still have a mission, you still have a war."  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:11 PM   #6 
        - There can be no mission. It is an Occupation.  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:13 PM   #11 
           - In post # 5 you said:  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:21 PM   #26 
              - I can see how that is confusing.  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:32 PM   #43 
                 - The changing of the mission that Senator Clinton could be meaning  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:48 PM   #65 
                    - But, that is not what she says.  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:56 PM   #76 
                    - It's politics, and they're ALL politicians and they're in a race they ALL want to win  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:08 PM   #82 
                    - Big Fucking Whoop  ProudDad   Oct-29-07 07:33 PM   #160 
                    - Excuse me, but am I missing something here?  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 10:05 PM   #182 
     - As she isn't interested in completely withdrawing troops and hasn't indicated that she  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:12 PM   #9 
     - I think that with regard to withdrawing the troops  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:25 PM   #33 
     - And where has Hillary said that?  tekisui   Oct-29-07 03:34 PM   #47 
        - She hasn't, if you re-read what I wrote, that was MY own personal opinion on what I THINK Hillary  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:43 PM   #59 
     - That's misleading about the 2012  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 07:25 PM   #157 
     - Also where is it said she wants to start another one?  William769   Oct-29-07 03:16 PM   #17 
        - Yeah I asked that you hear the crickets chirping like I do?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:19 PM   #19 
        - Just a daily hissy fit from a certain someone.  William769   Oct-29-07 03:20 PM   #24 
           - How could we help NOT notice..  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 03:29 PM   #40 
           - Hey LET'S SPECULATE shall we....President Hillary Clinton will  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:29 PM   #42 
        - She has taken an agressive stance toward Iran in KYL? Liberman and plaese don't quote the non bindin  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:47 PM   #62 
           - I won't quote anything but I want to see your quote where she wants to start another war.  William769   Oct-29-07 03:50 PM   #67 
           - Here are some lovely quotes that indicate her inclinations.And BTW  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:44 PM   #108 
           - Senator Clinton has had to take a hardline because she's a woman  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:51 PM   #69 
              - That is contemptible.If she feels the need to do that she isn't fit to be C in C.  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:00 PM   #80 
                 - Senator Clinton ISN'T playing "games" n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:10 PM   #83 
                    - Then she isn't just "acting tough"? She really wants to step up aggression in Iran?  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:15 PM   #85 
                    - You are the one that introduced the fact that she has to take a "hardline  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:17 PM   #88 
                       - Yeah that's correct, that's what I said....  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:20 PM   #90 
                       - So knuckling under to create a "perception of strength" is reality? Okay whatever. I am shamed by  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:22 PM   #93 
                          - No "perception of strength"....Senator Clinton is STRONG, she has strength  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:24 PM   #94 
                             - You are the one that brought up the fact that she has to present herself differently because she  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:28 PM   #96 
                       - Also saying her votes for war do to prove herself tough.  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 07:46 PM   #164 
                          - Here's that poll of DUers that I refer to.  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 09:57 PM   #181 
  - When has Senator Clinton EVER said that she'll start a war with Iran?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:05 PM   #2 
  - Kyle/Lieberman: Clinton Voted YES  AndyTiedye   Oct-29-07 03:13 PM   #10 
     - Seeing 8 yrs of Congress trying to tie Bubba's FP hands, she'll never vote against...  MookieWilson   Oct-29-07 03:19 PM   #18 
     - So she has to HOLD to that vote IF elected President? Also, Hillary IS a woman  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:32 PM   #44 
        - If that is why she campaigns, she is no real feminist and I have if possible even less respect for  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:51 PM   #68 
        - We're now in the post-Feminist period of history  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:56 PM   #75 
           - But pandering to a perception isn't the answer. Even if she should be elected she will have damaged  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:26 PM   #95 
           - Couldn't She Take After Barbara Lee?  AndyTiedye   Oct-29-07 05:04 PM   #120 
           - I don't agree with that  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 07:33 PM   #161 
              - Give me an idea of what policy differences  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 08:08 PM   #167 
                 - Sure. And they should go down in flames  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 08:26 PM   #171 
                    - Right  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 08:32 PM   #173 
                       - That wasn't what I was saying  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 08:50 PM   #174 
                          - I would have to see what she has said  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 08:56 PM   #175 
        - Coudn't She Take After Barbara Lee?  AndyTiedye   Oct-29-07 06:36 PM   #152 
  - Why do any DUers support Sen Byrd, who killed Universal Health Care in 1993?  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:08 PM   #4 
  - Sen.Byrd isn't the topic He isn't running for President and this isn't about healthcare.  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:15 PM   #15 
  - Why support Byrd when he killed UHC?  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:19 PM   #21 
     - NiCE Tactic.the IRAQ war is the subject.Not healthcare..If you can't answer the question. don't play  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:22 PM   #29 
     - 252,000 deaths - Thanks Sen Byrd  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:25 PM   #34 
     - Are you justifying a war and hillary's support of it because people die from other causes as well?  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 03:50 PM   #66 
        - No  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:54 PM   #72 
           - You aren't weighing anything as you blindly push her.  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 04:29 PM   #97 
              - No, I am saying  cuke   Oct-29-07 04:36 PM   #104 
                 - Boo hoo he/she is ignoring the me.  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 07:26 PM   #158 
  - Typical Hillarybot strawman arguement  HooptieWagon   Oct-29-07 07:20 PM   #155 
  - The irony is that the OP is itself a strawman  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 07:22 PM   #156 
  - hillaryCare 2.0  ProudDad   Oct-29-07 07:36 PM   #162 
  - the MSM told them to  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 03:12 PM   #7 
  - that's just a silly smear  cali   Oct-29-07 03:24 PM   #32 
  - Really? So you think the MSM is covering all the candidates equally?  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 03:34 PM   #48 
     - No. What does that have to do with whether or not  cali   Oct-29-07 04:08 PM   #81 
        - never said "simply"  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:22 PM   #92 
           - Now that's funny as hell and comes damned close to  cali   Oct-29-07 04:30 PM   #100 
              - I never said she is supported SIMPLY because of the MSM - that's your word  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:36 PM   #102 
  - Yeah, because we're all too stupid to make our own decisions, so we rely on the MSM to make them  ElizabethDC   Oct-29-07 06:15 PM   #142 
  - Here are a few reasons:  PurityOfEssence   Oct-29-07 03:12 PM   #8 
  - Because of her life long commitment and struggle  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:14 PM   #13 
     - That has nothing to do with the Iraq War. Apparently her "lifelong struggle'  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:19 PM   #20 
        - Apparently, you don't care about americans who die b/c they have no insurance  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:22 PM   #28 
           - Hillary failed in 1993 and she will fail again. All our candidates have healthcare plans  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:26 PM   #36 
           - Byrd killed Universal Health Care in 1993- 252,000 deaths follow  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:27 PM   #37 
              - That is not the topic and the best candidate for heathcare is not the failed heathcare advocate  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:37 PM   #50 
                 - The question is "Why support Hillary" Answer = b/c 16000 die every year  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:41 PM   #57 
                 - Hillary is not in bed with big pharma  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 07:45 PM   #163 
           - When did Byrd enter the race?  Laurab   Oct-29-07 07:29 PM   #159 
  - I'm not a liberal...thank the gods. nt.  IndianaJones   Oct-29-07 03:14 PM   #12 
  - Exactly, not ALL Democrats are liberal's....I'm not a liberal either, that DOESN'T mean  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:41 PM   #58 
  - Congressman Jim McGovern does....  SaveElmer   Oct-29-07 03:15 PM   #14 
  - ALL the Dem candidates support withdrawing the troops. It's the timetable...  MookieWilson   Oct-29-07 03:16 PM   #16 
  - All this OP ever does is post a SLAM Hillary thread daily!  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 03:20 PM   #23 
  - See post #24.  William769   Oct-29-07 03:22 PM   #27 
     - Good work, William  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:24 PM   #31 
  - She is the only one AFAIK that advocateds leaving "combat " troops in place  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:21 PM   #25 
     - What are you talking about?  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 03:25 PM   #35 
        - And before that Bill Richardson mentioned that they ALL want to withdraw troops. nt  MookieWilson   Oct-29-07 03:39 PM   #53 
        - richardson is the only one  mike from ri   Oct-29-07 08:25 PM   #170 
        - Hillary is the only candidate ththat references leaving combat troops in place.  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:39 PM   #54 
           - See my post # least 5,000 troops WILL have to be left in place  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:15 PM   #84 
           - You "imagine" that Hillary will pull out most combat troops?  bvar22   Oct-29-07 09:51 PM   #180 
           - No, you are dead wrong..If you have a link to your statement, I would like to see it..otherwise  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 04:16 PM   #86 
  - frankly, it's hard to imagine why anyone actually supports her....  mike_c   Oct-29-07 03:20 PM   #22 
  - I agree  phen43   Oct-29-07 03:27 PM   #38 
  - No, that RW myth was dispelled long ago..  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 03:33 PM   #45 
  - Dispell it for me then if so.  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 09:33 PM   #178 
  - LOL! Hilarious! One of the silliest comments so far....  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:34 PM   #49 
  - Good lard!  ronnykmarshall   Oct-29-07 07:01 PM   #154 
  - You Should Look More Closely Into the Great Khan, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-29-07 03:29 PM   #41 
     - I was speaking figuratively...  mike_c   Oct-29-07 05:06 PM   #122 
     - Fair Enough, Mr. C  The Magistrate   Oct-30-07 02:44 AM   #183 
     - If circumstances were similar, I would support the benevolent Khan  cuke   Oct-29-07 06:18 PM   #146 
  - First, because she never would have ordered an invasion of Iraq  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 03:23 PM   #30 
  - Now that is speculation.i We do not "know" Hillary wouldn't invade another  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:34 PM   #46 
  - We do not "know" Hillary wouldn't invade another country  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:38 PM   #51 
  - She adopted an aggressive stance against Iran by her KYL/LIEBERMAN vote. None of the other candidate...  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:43 PM   #60 
     - Kyl-Lieberman is NON-BINDING n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:57 PM   #116 
        - So what was the non-binding vote on Iraq, just for the hell of it too?  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 08:27 PM   #172 
  - We do not "know" Hillary wouldn't invade another country  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 03:38 PM   #52 
  - You're simply making shit up. I challenge you to provide  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 03:39 PM   #55 
     - I asked a question.I do not have to defend my right to ask it.  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:56 PM   #74 
        - I answered your question, and very well I think.  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 03:59 PM   #79 
  - indeed she did-- or at least as close as the power of her office allows....  mike_c   Oct-29-07 05:10 PM   #125 
     - Your reading of my post is incorrect  Jim4Wes   Oct-29-07 05:20 PM   #128 
  - Because 16,000 people die for lack of health care  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:28 PM   #39 
  - isn't this about Iraq?  phen43   Oct-29-07 03:40 PM   #56 
     - Poster can't support the reason someone is against the war should support Hillary.It is because  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:45 PM   #61 
     - Your just having a bad day aren't you.  William769   Oct-29-07 03:48 PM   #63 
        - And you refuse to answer the question. All you provide is snark.  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:52 PM   #70 
           - Is there a question?  William769   Oct-29-07 03:55 PM   #73 
     - She is asking "Why support Hillary?"  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:48 PM   #64 
        - Start you own thread on heathcare then. You are thread jacking and it is not cool.  saracat   Oct-29-07 03:53 PM   #71 
        - Oh what a tangled we we weave!  William769   Oct-29-07 03:56 PM   #77 
        - You ask Why vote for HRC? I answer HEALTH CARE  cuke   Oct-29-07 03:56 PM   #78 
        - okay  phen43   Oct-29-07 04:20 PM   #91 
           - Yes, that's exactly it  cuke   Oct-29-07 04:30 PM   #98 
              - thanks for the ideas!!  phen43   Oct-29-07 04:36 PM   #103 
  - Because we don't believe Edwards campaign speeches?  MethuenProgressive   Oct-29-07 04:17 PM   #87 
  - You've distorted all her positions and then ask people why they support her.  pnwmom   Oct-29-07 04:20 PM   #89 
  - I have distorted nothing.Those are her votes and her positions.  saracat   Oct-29-07 04:30 PM   #99 
     - I gave you a link.  William769   Oct-29-07 04:38 PM   #106 
  - Don't worry. Hillary will end this war.  cat_girl25   Oct-29-07 04:33 PM   #101 
  - Hillary has voted for war (IWR) and for more war (Kyl-Lieberman)  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:37 PM   #105 
  - Is that why she has a double digit lead over Obama?  William769   Oct-29-07 04:39 PM   #107 
  - not in Ohio where it all begins  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:45 PM   #109 
     - Senator Clinton will win the Ohio Primary  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:49 PM   #112 
     - there you go again - it's a statistical dead heat  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:50 PM   #114 
        - Obama  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 05:02 PM   #117 
           - so sayeth you  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 05:11 PM   #126 
           - And me and a very large crowd in the GLBT community.  William769   Oct-29-07 05:25 PM   #129 
              - You and the 24 protestors that showed up?  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 05:28 PM   #130 
                 - Not all of us are in South Carolina.  William769   Oct-29-07 05:30 PM   #131 
                    - good luck on your HRC-fueled hit job on Obama  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 05:32 PM   #132 
                       - No luck is needed.  William769   Oct-29-07 05:33 PM   #133 
                          - Hillary's YES vote on Kyl-Lieberman will be her demise.  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 05:36 PM   #134 
                             - So now you want to change the subject?  William769   Oct-29-07 05:38 PM   #135 
                                - If you can make predictions as to the demise of a campaign, so can I.  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 05:40 PM   #136 
                                   - Mine is real time, your is fantasy,  William769   Oct-29-07 05:43 PM   #137 
           - Obama wasn't thinking when he promised to run a positive  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 08:10 PM   #168 
     - When did I ever declare the primary over?  William769   Oct-29-07 05:03 PM   #118 
     - If everybody here is nice to you  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 08:08 PM   #166 
  - Kyl-Lieberman was a NON-BINDING vote....are you aware of that? n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:46 PM   #110 
     - and IWR didn't give Bush the authority to invade Iraq  depakid   Oct-29-07 04:47 PM   #111 
     - I'm neither....I can think of things in a logical and non-hysterical way  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 04:54 PM   #115 
        - They cannot be convinced...  SaveElmer   Oct-29-07 05:03 PM   #119 
        - I actually wonder if  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 05:08 PM   #123 
        - You're assuming that this administration is also logical and non-hysterical  depakid   Oct-29-07 05:08 PM   #124 
           - "I see little indication that Hillary differs in an appreciable way with the GOP on this issue"  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 05:15 PM   #127 
              - Once again, that's naive  depakid   Oct-29-07 05:50 PM   #138 
                 - I'm NOT an Obama fan  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 06:12 PM   #140 
                    - Again, you can call people what you like  depakid   Oct-29-07 06:22 PM   #148 
                       - Those people are not adults then, they act like Teenage Idealists  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-29-07 06:35 PM   #151 
                          - Nope- not am Obama supporter  depakid   Oct-29-07 08:02 PM   #165 
     - riiiiiiiiiight  AtomicKitten   Oct-29-07 04:49 PM   #113 
     - Was the Iraq War Resolution non binding?  William769   Oct-29-07 05:04 PM   #121 
     - It was a wrong vote just like the Iraq war vote was a wrong vote.  Ethelk2044   Oct-29-07 06:17 PM   #144 
  - I do NOT support Hillary .  weeve   Oct-29-07 05:56 PM   #139 
  - AMEN to THAT!!  phen43   Oct-29-07 06:20 PM   #147 
  - Hillary is not the least electable  creeksneakers2   Oct-29-07 08:17 PM   #169 
  - Haven't you heard? Hillay is supposed to turn left after she is elected....  AntiFascist   Oct-29-07 06:13 PM   #141 
  - Because they really do not want to end the war.  Ethelk2044   Oct-29-07 06:16 PM   #143 
  - bold statement  phen43   Oct-29-07 06:18 PM   #145 
  - As a Hillary supporter, I sincerely believe that she will end the Iraq War  ElizabethDC   Oct-29-07 06:27 PM   #149 
  - Yea sure in what year again, 2012?  FREEWILL56   Oct-29-07 09:50 PM   #179 
  - I wish there was a woman running who I could feel good about  rateyes   Oct-29-07 06:34 PM   #150 
  - Hear Here!!!  Froward69   Oct-29-07 09:33 PM   #177 
  - They should not support her. I don't understand it either.  robinlynne   Oct-29-07 06:57 PM   #153 
  - I'm more worried about her hawkishness towards Iran.  jmp   Oct-29-07 09:33 PM   #176 

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