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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 07:27 AM
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4. Well, that tears it!
The aura of inevitability has hardened into a permanence. Edwards, Obama etc should just throw in the towel and give up right now. Election's over, folks - Hillary has already won.

Uh huh.
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  -Hillary Goes For The Kill (100+ staffers sent to Iowa) Herman Munster  Oct-28-07 03:13 AM   #0 
  - Damn. My poor candidate! nt  gateley   Oct-28-07 03:33 AM   #1 
  - By doing so she has eclipsed Obama band of workers  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:53 AM   #2 
  - Not for long. Obama's Q3 primary $$ CoH was #1 in the entire field after debt was accounted for  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 07:11 AM   #3 
     - I haven't seen the final accounting...please post it..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 08:50 AM   #7 
        - The Q3 FEC filing will have the details.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 10:44 AM   #31 
           - Hillary's net was ahead of Obamas' by a million  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 11:01 AM   #38 
              - She had $2M+ in debt, while Obama had none.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 11:26 AM   #40 
                 - Face it...Obama is just about BROKE!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 12:34 PM   #56 
                    - LOL - uh, no  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 03:17 PM   #74 
                       - Keep your CC handy...  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 03:27 PM   #76 
                          - What's a CC?  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 03:58 PM   #85 
                             - A CC, it involves's rather complex....  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:31 PM   #110 
                                - Oh, all that stuff that escapes me (well, I am Femme!)  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 07:43 PM   #116 
  - Well, that tears it!  peace frog   Oct-28-07 07:27 AM   #4 
  - Looks like your prediction is coming true!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 09:01 AM   #10 
     - Silently folding their tents and slipping away  peace frog   Oct-28-07 09:46 AM   #20 
        - Obama's ego won't let him go until the bitter end.. I'm sure.  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 10:03 AM   #24 
           - The 'bitter end' is here and now  peace frog   Oct-28-07 10:15 AM   #26 
  - The woman IS awesome!  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:11 AM   #5 
  - Yeah, that's a great way to bring the Democratic Party together  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 09:00 AM   #9 
     - IF Hillary becomes our Presidential nominee, then you WILL vote for her  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 09:09 AM   #11 
        - I wouldn't vote for her under any circumstances. Never.  burythehatchet   Oct-28-07 02:51 PM   #70 
        - Don't ever tell anyone who they should vote for.  Nedsdag   Oct-28-07 10:46 PM   #143 
        - I don't have to do shit except pay taxes and die.  HughBeaumont   Oct-29-07 06:49 AM   #151 
  - I like Hillary, but I'm uncomfortable with Iowa.  cobalt1999   Oct-28-07 08:25 AM   #6 
  - Hillary knows what she's doing, don't worry, she's VERY politically savvy  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 09:10 AM   #12 
  - Yeah. If she hadn't been VERY politically savvy,  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 09:28 AM   #16 
     - How you arrive at blaming Hillary for that, I'm not entirely sure  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 09:32 AM   #17 
        - She got rolled by the health insurance industry. If she had been more  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 09:42 AM   #19 
           - At least she tried...thats more than any Republican's ever done!..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 10:02 AM   #23 
           - Word! n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 10:51 AM   #35 
           - Hillary's heart was in the right place, her heart still IS in the right place  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 10:49 AM   #34 
           - Allowing "insurance" companies to continue to rake in unconscionable  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 11:29 AM   #41 
              - you are never going to get these hillbots to address these issues directly  bushmeat   Oct-28-07 11:35 AM   #44 
              - Which does not bode well for the future.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 11:38 AM   #45 
              - And sink you will, dysphemism and all!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 12:32 PM   #55 
              - "Hillbots"....what about the Cult of Obama....the "Obamabots"  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:42 PM   #115 
              - Yes, typical Kucinich think...and why nothing ever gets done  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 12:32 PM   #54 
              - Yeah, let's all become Repulican lite, go along with their wars and  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 01:06 PM   #57 
                 - Hey, elect Kucinich Mayor again. See how long it takes to Bankrupt Cleavland this time..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 01:20 PM   #58 
                 - Not everyone who is disturbed by the Republican lite policies of  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 01:44 PM   #62 
                    - Well then as intelligent as your post  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 01:53 PM   #65 
                       - Just because one can't get a bill past a veto is no excuse not standing one's ground.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 02:16 PM   #66 
                          - Where or when has Hillary demonstrated a loss of principles?  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 03:18 PM   #75 
                          - Learned my lesson, indeed! How insulting.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 03:30 PM   #77 
                          - I don't promote Republicans...too bad you can't say the same  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:00 PM   #86 
                          - I guess some find satisfaction in being mindless, simi-literate groupies.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 04:13 PM   #95 
                             - "Mindless, semi-literate groupies"....more insults from you  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:46 PM   #117 
                                - If you'd bother to READ the exchange, you'd find I was in no way  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:16 PM   #125 
                                - What and....  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:22 PM   #128 
                                - That was directed at one individual who was doing a pretty  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:56 PM   #136 
                          - What's ALSO insulting is you referring to the DLC as "Republican lite"  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:39 PM   #114 
                          - Please, it is very unkind to lay such temptation in front of someone who is trying  hedgehog   Oct-28-07 03:31 PM   #78 
                          - Nasty language? I'm not an Obama supporter! NT  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:01 PM   #88 
                             - OK, the temptation is too much - can't hold back any more -  hedgehog   Oct-28-07 04:06 PM   #90 
                                - Define Triangulation...if you can, that is?  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:10 PM   #93 
                                   - Google it. You might learn something,  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 04:27 PM   #98 
                                   - *Zing*  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 06:21 PM   #108 
                                   - Do you EVEN KNOW what Triangulation is?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:49 PM   #118 
                                   - And someone will always engage in a premature *Zing*...  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 08:06 PM   #120 
                                   - Well yeah  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:20 PM   #126 
                                   - Yeah. Sure.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:06 PM   #121 
                                   - Okay then, tell us what Triangulation is, go on....n/t  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:08 PM   #123 
                                   - *BUSTED*  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 08:53 PM   #135 
                                   - Obviously those supporting Clinton are trying to distance themselves from it,  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 09:19 PM   #140 
                                   - Actually, we're trying to distance ourselves  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 09:59 PM   #142 
                          - I got your lost principles right here  crickets   Oct-29-07 02:50 AM   #146 
                             - Ridiculous!  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 04:14 AM   #147 
                                - Terra! Terra! Terra!  crickets   Oct-29-07 05:07 AM   #148 
                                   - Anyone in a position of power should never speak in absolutes.  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 05:43 AM   #149 
                                      - Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.  crickets   Oct-29-07 06:33 AM   #150 
                                      - thrilled to be on IGNORE!  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 07:39 AM   #152 
                                      - Well then-  Silence Dogood   Oct-29-07 08:58 AM   #153 
                                      - GREAT Point...BUT, BUT, BUT...  Tellurian   Oct-29-07 11:46 AM   #154 
                                      - Lookit the purty straw man  crickets   Oct-29-07 03:35 PM   #157 
                          - Thank you!  crickets   Oct-29-07 02:24 AM   #145 
                 - How are we "going along with their wars"?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:37 PM   #113 
                    - Hillary's vote on Iraq was a mistake, as was Edwards' vote, but  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:25 PM   #130 
                       - What about Barack Obama's mistakes then?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:26 PM   #131 
                          - And their relevance?  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 09:23 PM   #141 
              - The DLC wasn't "wrong" on NAFTA, there's nothing wrong with NAFTA  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 07:34 PM   #111 
                 - Check out our balance of trade with both Canada and Mexico. NAFTA has  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:50 PM   #133 
           - It was Sen Byrd who killed Universal Health Care in 1993  cuke   Oct-28-07 07:36 PM   #112 
  - Hillary has been running a positive campaign all along!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 09:11 AM   #13 
     - My prediction from a few days ago still stands  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 09:19 AM   #15 
     - I've always said Hillary is running a "Microsoft" campaign.  cobalt1999   Oct-28-07 09:36 AM   #18 
        - Obama doesn't have the CA$H Hillary does...  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 09:56 AM   #22 
           - I wasn't aware of the Finance Chairman move, but...  cobalt1999   Oct-28-07 10:17 AM   #27 
           - Obama has been burning through money on tv ads in Iowa  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 10:41 AM   #29 
           - Wrong. Obama had more CoH than Hillary after Q3 according to FEC filings.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 04:56 PM   #100 
              - Hillary has about $15 M more COH according to the FEC Filing than Obama  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 08:51 PM   #134 
  - We should consider holding a direct auction of the presidency on the steps  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 08:58 AM   #8 
  - The Treasury = Bush  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 09:14 AM   #14 
  - Corporate whore buys it with blood money.  FreeStateDemocrat   Oct-28-07 09:49 AM   #21 
  - wait..  wyldwolf   Oct-28-07 10:05 AM   #25 
  - Hilarious!  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 10:54 AM   #37 
  - Forget staffers, how many volunteers do the candidates have?  thecatburgler   Oct-28-07 10:17 AM   #28 
  - Thats not what I heard..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 10:46 AM   #32 
  - The staffers I know work incredibly hard - they stay late to make phone calls  ElizabethDC   Oct-28-07 11:45 AM   #47 
     - The main job of a staffer is to get people to volunteer to do that stuff  thecatburgler   Oct-28-07 11:52 AM   #48 
        - This is the way it's been on all the campaigns that I've volunteered/worked on  ElizabethDC   Oct-28-07 11:59 AM   #49 
  - As an Iowan...  TwoSparkles   Oct-28-07 10:43 AM   #30 
  - Hillary is doing very well in Iowa Polls.. She leads at the front of the pack!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 10:49 AM   #33 
  - Still nearly within the margin of error. An extremely tight race, indeed. nt  calteacherguy   Oct-28-07 01:39 PM   #61 
     - Hillary treats every poll as if she's 20 pts behind..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 01:46 PM   #63 
  - Ouch.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 06:04 PM   #106 
  - Don't like Hils at all, really I don't. But even I know that she's not in the  acmavm   Oct-28-07 10:53 AM   #36 
  - Stay tuned...Obama's planning on flexing his muscle Tues night..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 11:07 AM   #39 
  - Just serves to demonstrate that the winner is the one who can raise the most money.  ginchinchili   Oct-28-07 11:32 AM   #42 
  - Hillary isn't supported by Republican donors..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 12:21 PM   #52 
     - Make no mistake; many of the same donors who supported Dubya are supporting Hillary  ginchinchili   Oct-28-07 09:04 PM   #137 
  - I just hope her campaign doesn't call this 'The Perfect Storm'  Debi   Oct-28-07 11:35 AM   #43 
  - That's a beautiful pic.  seasonedblue   Oct-28-07 11:39 AM   #46 
  - Nor did they like phone calls saying he did abortions and she was a Jew.  madfloridian   Oct-28-07 12:05 PM   #50 
  - Oh, mad, you know I'm not blaming it ALL on the orange caps  Debi   Oct-28-07 12:16 PM   #51 
     - Here's the video link page with trailer.  madfloridian   Oct-28-07 12:29 PM   #53 
        - Thanks n/t  Debi   Oct-28-07 04:35 PM   #99 
  - My sense is she has a different style. nt  calteacherguy   Oct-28-07 01:38 PM   #60 
  - Hillary does not have to be concerned with any other states much  calteacherguy   Oct-28-07 01:37 PM   #59 
  - Obama is almost broke..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 01:47 PM   #64 
  - That is a fucking Lie. Hillary has spent more money than Obama  Ethelk2044   Oct-28-07 02:33 PM   #68 
  - Prove it! Obama is operating in the RED...or can't you count?  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 02:53 PM   #71 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-07 04:59 PM   #101 
  - I'd respect you more if you took a more objective view.  calteacherguy   Oct-28-07 04:01 PM   #87 
     - Do your own math..and figure it out for yourself!  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:16 PM   #96 
        - The FEC has all the facts. We can all do the math.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 05:10 PM   #102 
           - You mean when they push their payroll over to the next quarter's expenses...  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 06:20 PM   #107 
              - Do you make it up as you go along? Wrong again. It's called a Q3 FEC filing extension.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 06:33 PM   #109 
                 - Of which I provided the definition thereof..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 08:03 PM   #119 
  - Obama has enough ground offices and support. Also, get this he is not having to pay for  Ethelk2044   Oct-28-07 02:35 PM   #69 
     - They're called VOLUNTEERS, Ethel...everyone has them..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 02:55 PM   #72 
     - Ethel, Hillary has plenty of volunteers who believe in her  ElizabethDC   Oct-28-07 03:34 PM   #79 
     - That is why she has to ask for 100 more and willing to pay. All Obama has to do is send an email  eweaver155   Oct-28-07 03:44 PM   #82 
     - That doesn't mean that he doesn't have paid staffers.  ElizabethDC   Oct-28-07 03:49 PM   #84 
        - Shhhh! Obama hasn't told them there is a difference..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:12 PM   #94 
     - psst! psst!  ronnykmarshall   Oct-29-07 04:10 PM   #158 
     - He has a few paid staffers (at the top) but the vast majority are volunteers.  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 05:32 PM   #103 
  - She could not get someone to work for her because they believed in her. She had to put out a want  Ethelk2044   Oct-28-07 02:31 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-07 02:56 PM   #73 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-07 03:43 PM   #81 
  - If they are, they are even bigger fools than I had feared they might be.  Benhurst   Oct-28-07 03:46 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-07 04:06 PM   #91 
  - What do you like most about Obama? nt  calteacherguy   Oct-28-07 04:02 PM   #89 
     - I like that I am not one of his supporters..  Tellurian   Oct-28-07 04:08 PM   #92 
        - Are you too insecure to answer the question?  calteacherguy   Oct-29-07 01:06 AM   #144 
  - Good one. LOL  DemFemme   Oct-28-07 05:40 PM   #104 
  - Awesome  NewHampster   Oct-28-07 03:37 PM   #80 
  - GeezeDESPERATE much?  BlueIris   Oct-28-07 04:26 PM   #97 
  - Good luck with that...  zulchzulu   Oct-28-07 05:41 PM   #105 
  - No surprise: Flawless campaign, going for the jugular early  sampsonblk   Oct-28-07 08:07 PM   #122 
  - It's politics, what do you expect?  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:11 PM   #124 
  - there is a better way: Richardson  mike from ri   Oct-28-07 08:20 PM   #127 
  - I'd be happy with a Clinton/Richardson ticket....Hillary must  ...of J.Temperance   Oct-28-07 08:25 PM   #129 
  - All campaigns increase staff as the election nears closer. So whats all the noise about Clinton....  bigdarryl   Oct-28-07 08:27 PM   #132 
  - People have been asking about when the elitist drones from the NE will be showing up  Capn Sunshine   Oct-28-07 09:06 PM   #138 
  - K&R!  William769   Oct-28-07 09:12 PM   #139 
  - Too many, too late? nt  hedgehog   Oct-29-07 12:03 PM   #155 
  - Well now that is great and she will go to Iowa a  BenDavid   Oct-29-07 12:18 PM   #156 

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