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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:01 PM
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29. And how does working to stop Hillary from taking office in 2009...
...stop Bush from starting a war with Iran in 2008? There is no mention of any Democratic candidate in this email, do you have a problem with it? Same question that I asked another poster above: Would you rather this email not gone out?

Do you realize how crass you are being now to force all talk about stopping a war with Iran into the narrow confines of a Democratic primary fcampaign for President? You react negatively when the wrong thing is said about Iran but you react negatively when the right thing is said about Iran also. It's not Iran that you are reacting to at all, it is all about the contest for President. Do you mind if some of the rest of us try to do something constructive now besides get pissed at this or that Democrat for what they should have done differently?
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  -A letter from Wes Clark regarding Iran Auntie Bush  Oct-26-07 09:35 AM   #0 
  - and he backs cLinton?  sniffa   Oct-26-07 09:38 AM   #1 
  - Wes supported Kyl-Lieberman, he just opposes its provisions. n/t  geek tragedy   Oct-26-07 09:39 AM   #3 
  - oh ok, so he's fLip fLopper then?  sniffa   Oct-26-07 10:02 AM   #9 
  - she gets to vote for what?  wyldwolf   Oct-26-07 09:39 AM   #4 
  - It's absurd, really.  Inspired   Oct-27-07 08:26 AM   #50 
  - I thought you liked Kyl-Lieberman, Wes?  geek tragedy   Oct-26-07 09:38 AM   #2 
  - When did Wes praise the K/L amendment? Did I miss something?  wienerdoggie   Oct-26-07 09:53 AM   #6 
  - He said Clinton was right to vote for it and that it was a  geek tragedy   Oct-26-07 09:54 AM   #7 
     - Wes Clark first said that he was "uneasy" about Kyl-Lieberman before he supported Hillary's yes vote  flpoljunkie   Oct-26-07 10:00 AM   #8 
        - Yes, that's what I heard. It didn't sound like true support of K/L, more of a  wienerdoggie   Oct-26-07 10:17 AM   #13 
        - So he was uneasy before he supported it before he opposed  geek tragedy   Oct-26-07 04:05 PM   #19 
        - Let's talk about the actual letter for a sec, since that it what the thread is about  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 04:21 PM   #21 
           - I'm glad that he did. LOL  Auntie Bush   Oct-26-07 04:33 PM   #22 
        - Obviously, that talk about being "uncomfortable" never happened.  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 05:53 PM   #26 
           - So tell me...  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 05:55 PM   #28 
  - What regiment did you command? What diplomacy did you broker?  Clark2008   Oct-27-07 09:47 AM   #55 
  - Sanctions  PATRICK   Oct-26-07 09:45 AM   #5 
  - after watching that PBS Frontline Show down with Iran  alyce douglas   Oct-26-07 10:03 AM   #10 
  - Think about what is important to stop a war with Iran,,,not politics.  Auntie Bush   Oct-26-07 10:04 AM   #11 
  - Link to stopiranwar...  slipslidingaway   Oct-26-07 10:15 AM   #12 
  - Nice... Let's stop the talk and get over there and sign that petition! n/t  Auntie Bush   Oct-26-07 10:21 AM   #14 
     - Already done that, it's been around for quite some time and I  slipslidingaway   Oct-26-07 10:47 AM   #15 
        - Exactly. Most here have forgotten when that Iran legislations passed  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 02:58 PM   #16 
           - Yes there were plenty of opportunities to question the  slipslidingaway   Oct-26-07 03:50 PM   #17 
              - A number of netroots folks posted often about Iran over the last couple of years  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 04:19 PM   #20 
                 - Some do not believe we need the Webb bill, thinking of the  slipslidingaway   Oct-26-07 05:55 PM   #27 
  - K&R  seasonedblue   Oct-26-07 04:04 PM   #18 
  - The tight framing Clark used here is very, very, skilled  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 05:25 PM   #23 
  - Of course it is Tom n/t  Jim4Wes   Oct-26-07 05:30 PM   #24 
  - Question  Donna Zen   Oct-26-07 11:59 PM   #47 
     - I think a comparison could be with "angry Islam" and Al Quada  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-27-07 07:29 AM   #49 
     - Empowering hardliners  Jim4Wes   Oct-27-07 08:27 AM   #51 
        - About sanctions  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-27-07 08:57 AM   #52 
        - I see it as a time extension  Jim4Wes   Oct-27-07 09:04 AM   #53 
           - Gotcha. Good point. I hope your read is correct. n/t  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-27-07 09:44 AM   #54 
        - Talk to them (Clark) Isolate some of them (Clinton)  Donna Zen   Oct-27-07 10:53 PM   #56 
  - Has he gotten Hillary to sign it yet? *crickets*  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 05:45 PM   #25 
  - And how does working to stop Hillary from taking office in 2009...  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 06:01 PM   #29 
     - Patronize much? This petition will do nothing to stop a war with Iran.  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 06:52 PM   #34 
     - Nothing you have suggested "will do anything to stop a war with Iran"  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 07:26 PM   #35 
        - My suggestion: senators should listen to Sen. Jim Webb before voting on anything Liebermanesque  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 07:55 PM   #38 
           - So how do we now get more Senators to support the Webb Amendment?  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 08:01 PM   #39 
              - The Webb amendment will never pass - Hillary's triangulated co-sponsorship is simply CYA  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 08:39 PM   #42 
                 - So that puts you back at offering nothing constructive now again  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 08:47 PM   #43 
                    - Sorry, I didn't sign up for "Tom's Constructive Suggestion" class.  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 10:22 PM   #44 
                       - Gee, I thought you might teach a class. You lecture well enough.  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 11:03 PM   #45 
                          - I could never hope to be as good as you at it.  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 11:41 PM   #46 
     - You tell em Tom.  Auntie Bush   Oct-26-07 07:40 PM   #36 
  - Do you know who this letter was sent to?  Inuca   Oct-26-07 06:13 PM   #30 
  - I'm on Clark's email, and votevets. I know it was sent through votevets and Clark's site.  calteacherguy   Oct-26-07 06:16 PM   #32 
  - I just received this in my email. Thanks for posting! K&R. nt  calteacherguy   Oct-26-07 06:15 PM   #31 
  - Please, Hillary, choose Wes Clark for your VP.  MasonJar   Oct-26-07 06:36 PM   #33 
  - Oh God, how I wish she would. Then and only then will  Auntie Bush   Oct-26-07 07:54 PM   #37 
  - Seems obvious.  Xap   Oct-26-07 08:02 PM   #40 
     - That is one of their options. They have many  Tom Rinaldo   Oct-26-07 08:14 PM   #41 
        - This is why  Xap   Oct-27-07 03:34 AM   #48 
 

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