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50. And fly back to NH immediately after. Thanks for global warming.
The vote took place at 12:45. When were they notified? Between 9:30 and 10, Reid still did not know whether there would be a vote or not and when it would take place. Listen, we know you do not care of the truth on this issue, sadly, because it would bring the light on the real issue, why did Hillary voted for this bill (that all her opponents who voted opposed).
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  -Was Obama naive for not showing up to vote on Kyl-Lieberman? Lirwin2  Oct-25-07 06:54 PM   #0 
  - The story is that he didn't know there'd be a vote.  MethuenProgressive   Oct-25-07 06:57 PM   #1 
  - on a gospel tour? nt  msongs   Oct-25-07 06:58 PM   #2 
  - He put out a statement saying he's against it. If it was going to be a close vote he'd have  jenmito   Oct-25-07 07:19 PM   #7 
  - Sorry, if you don't vote, then you have no right to bitch.  cobalt1999   Oct-25-07 07:33 PM   #14 
     - Says you. He made his position clear.  jenmito   Oct-25-07 08:58 PM   #76 
        - Says you?  cobalt1999   Oct-25-07 10:51 PM   #97 
  - Not the best excuse.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:19 PM   #8 
  - It's completely different when you're an incumbent  Hippo_Tron   Oct-25-07 10:54 PM   #98 
  - Wow- The majority has spoken..  Tellurian   Oct-26-07 07:43 AM   #119 
  - He wanted to be able to jump on which ever side got the story  Bitwit1234   Oct-25-07 07:15 PM   #3 
  - He released a statement the day of the vote.  jefferson_dem   Oct-25-07 07:18 PM   #5 
     - Because if public opinion on Iran shifts, nobody can do a hit piece saying,  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:20 PM   #9 
        - Bingo!  Lirwin2   Oct-25-07 07:27 PM   #10 
        - That's more Hillary's MO. But instead of not voting, she votes both ways  jenmito   Oct-25-07 07:29 PM   #12 
        - What a strange response.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:32 PM   #13 
        - No defense of his non-vote. He put out a statement right away.  jenmito   Oct-25-07 07:43 PM   #22 
           - His non-vote was an act of political cowardice.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:46 PM   #26 
              - No it wasn't. He wasn't there and made it very clear of his position. And the fact that you agree  jenmito   Oct-25-07 08:03 PM   #38 
                 - What makes you say that?  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 08:08 PM   #41 
                    - She votes strategically, not morally. She voted FOR the war when it was popular  jenmito   Oct-25-07 08:53 PM   #73 
                       - And yet you haven't come across a single policy difference between the two.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 09:01 PM   #78 
                          - He was against the IWR when it was popular to be FOR it...  jenmito   Oct-25-07 09:19 PM   #88 
                             - Pretty damn easy to be "against" it  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 10:24 PM   #92 
                                - Um, he was an IL state senator at the time and DID have cameras on him  jenmito   Oct-26-07 11:12 AM   #121 
        - Thats silly  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 07:34 PM   #15 
        - This is silly. He has been on record again and again saying he was opposed to the amendment and  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:39 PM   #18 
           - I guess we'll just have to believe him then?  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 07:41 PM   #20 
              - Perhaps he just didn't want to break his streak  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:43 PM   #21 
              - You should win something  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 07:44 PM   #24 
              - Sure. Which is why he said he opposed the vote the same day Clinton voted YES.  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:46 PM   #27 
                 - It was after the vote. Convenient no? n/t  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 07:48 PM   #29 
                 - At which time he did NOT copy her vote. BTW, most other votes Hillary voted AFTER Obama.  jenmito   Oct-25-07 07:52 PM   #30 
                    - So which is it?  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:55 PM   #33 
                 - I'm no Clinton supporter. nt  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:54 PM   #32 
                    - Does that mean that you disagree with your candidate or that you are a freeper?  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:55 PM   #34 
                       - That means I disagree with Mr. Edwards on this particular vote, but  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 07:58 PM   #36 
                       - I consider that out of line.  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 08:01 PM   #37 
                          - Well, I'm leaning Edwards, but not committed.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 08:04 PM   #39 
                             - Hope you stick around. n/t  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 08:09 PM   #42 
                             - So you disagree with them on this issue. It was exactly my question.  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:36 PM   #53 
                                - See post #36.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 08:37 PM   #55 
              - That he was in ME the day before? He was. Why do you want to reinvent history.  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:43 PM   #23 
                 - Candidate events for Septemebr 25th  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:36 PM   #52 
                    - What are you trying to prove with this schedule.  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:41 PM   #59 
                       - So you're saying that if the vote happened the evening of the 25th Obama would have been in Maine?  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:45 PM   #63 
  - If you included "and then attacked Hillary for her vote"  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 07:16 PM   #4 
  - He should've been there  bigwillq   Oct-25-07 07:18 PM   #6 
  - So, was he supposed to fly from ME (or NH) to DC and back to NH?  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:37 PM   #17 
     - I would like to know  bigwillq   Oct-25-07 07:41 PM   #19 
        - No. This has been said again and again. Read the Senate's records.  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:45 PM   #25 
           - Thanks for bringing that to my attention (nt)  bigwillq   Oct-25-07 07:57 PM   #35 
           - Yes read the actual Senate records not the edited ones proffered by Obama supporters  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:19 PM   #46 
              - When were they notified there would be a vote that day. And did you expect Obama to flight from NH  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:35 PM   #51 
                 - If he believed that this vote might lead to war,  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 09:02 PM   #79 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-25-07 07:27 PM   #11 
  - He did not even sell him out. The vote was not even close and each presidential campaign  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:37 PM   #16 
  - One. More. Time. Top Hillary staffer Rory Reid's dad Harry pulled a bait-and-switch on Obama.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 07:48 PM   #28 
  - Do not bother. They will not read. They do not need the truth.  Mass   Oct-25-07 07:52 PM   #31 
  - LOL I know. I am hoping non-Hillarians are interested in the truth (plus links).  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:06 PM   #40 
  - The truth? You do know the other poster cut the quote and left out info, right?  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:17 PM   #45 
     - You wouldn't know the truth if I posted it. Try again, Hillarian BS artist #10. n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:31 PM   #49 
     - So why did you cut off the quote?  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:37 PM   #54 
        - Your quote actually makes my point. Reid decided the date and time of the vote at the last minute.  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:45 PM   #64 
           - Last minute? It was a continuation of the previous evening.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:50 PM   #67 
              - Wrong. It was the same evening. n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 10:30 PM   #93 
                 - So Obama doesn't know that votes can come up all of a sudden?  cuke   Oct-26-07 12:56 AM   #117 
     - And fly back to NH immediately after. Thanks for global warming.  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:32 PM   #50 
     - If it was as an important vote as he claims it was he would have been available.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:41 PM   #58 
     - No, I am just trying to place my arguments to the level of yours.  Mass   Oct-25-07 08:44 PM   #61 
     - Excellent points.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:42 PM   #60 
     - Speaking of truth, why did Hillary vote for another blank check for war AGAIN? n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:38 PM   #56 
        - Same reason Obama did.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 09:11 PM   #85 
           - I was speaking of the Kyl-Lieberman vote. n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 10:31 PM   #94 
              - Ah, that's the problem then. Kyl-Lieberman does not authorize war. nt  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 10:32 PM   #95 
                 - Yeah, yeah, neither did IWR according to Hillary. Twice fooled....  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 10:47 PM   #96 
                    - Senator Jim Webb is a politician.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 10:57 PM   #99 
                       - Sen. Jim Webb doesn't bullsh*t or triangulate about war, imo.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 11:03 PM   #101 
  - No matter how many times you repeat that smear does not make it true.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:13 PM   #43 
     - I have no issues with Obama not voting on this bill.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-25-07 08:16 PM   #44 
     - Actually I don't have aproblem with his attacking CLinton on the vote.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:20 PM   #47 
     - Its both together  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 08:39 PM   #57 
     - That's exactly what I've been saying.  seasonedblue   Oct-25-07 08:29 PM   #48 
     - Hearing the word "smear" from you is truly amusing. Repeat: Obama had no time to get back.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:45 PM   #62 
        - He had no intention of bothering to vote on this.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:48 PM   #65 
        - So now you're Obama's Brain?  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:51 PM   #69 
           - Obama sat on the sidelines.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:53 PM   #72 
              - Obama got sidelined by top Hillary staffer Rory Reid's daddy Harry.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 08:55 PM   #74 
                 - LOL now you're reduced to tinfoil!!!!!!  rinsd   Oct-25-07 09:12 PM   #86 
                    - Not at all. Reid removed an advantage from Obama with which to question Hillary's vote  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 10:18 PM   #91 
                       - Ohhh how far down does the rabbit hole go.....  rinsd   Oct-25-07 10:57 PM   #100 
                          - The rabbit hole Hillary is taking us down is paved with dead bodies.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 11:22 PM   #103 
                             - So Reid gives her political cover by having her thrown to the wolves that evening at the debate?  rinsd   Oct-25-07 11:29 PM   #104 
                                - Reread my above answer. Lather, rinsd, repeat. n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 11:31 PM   #105 
                                   - Here's your above point  rinsd   Oct-25-07 11:34 PM   #106 
                                      - Reid and Hillary obviously didn't anticipate the firestorm her vote would cause.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 11:48 PM   #107 
                                         - "Reid and Hillary obviously didn't anticipate the firestorm her vote would cause."  rinsd   Oct-25-07 11:53 PM   #108 
                                            - You didn't get high marks in Logic 101, did you? Again: Lather, rinsd, repeat. n/t  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 12:00 AM   #109 
                                               - Logic?  rinsd   Oct-26-07 12:07 AM   #110 
                                                  - Logical deduction from K-L bill: Hillary voted for another black check for war AGAIN  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 12:25 AM   #112 
                                                  - That is simply incorrect.  Basileus Basileon   Oct-26-07 12:30 AM   #113 
                                                  - Jimmy Carter, Mario Cuomo, Sens. Webb, Tester, Cantwell et al, John Dean, etc. disagree with you  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 12:41 AM   #114 
                                                  - K-L may be a moral justification for war, of sorts,  Basileus Basileon   Oct-26-07 12:49 AM   #115 
                                                  - More than that or else Carter, Cuomo, Webb et al wouldn't have bothered speaking out against it  DemFemme   Oct-26-07 12:57 AM   #118 
        - if Hillary was so certain it was for diplomacy why did she run for cover with Webb;'s bill.  illinoisprogressive   Oct-25-07 08:49 PM   #66 
        - Speaking of which, why hasn't he signed on to Webb's bill?  rinsd   Oct-25-07 08:52 PM   #70 
        - Because there's no way in hell Webb's bill will pass. He's not into window dressing like Hillary.  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 09:03 PM   #80 
           - So instead of triangulation he is going for no stand at all...interesting.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 09:08 PM   #82 
              - Has Hillary returned the Chinese sweatshop money yet? n/t  DemFemme   Oct-25-07 09:18 PM   #87 
        - Apparently  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 08:52 PM   #71 
        - So explain then...  SaveElmer   Oct-25-07 08:55 PM   #75 
           - Bingo. He thought it would pass, he did not know Hillary would vote for it.  rinsd   Oct-25-07 09:10 PM   #83 
           - That's one of the problems.  seasonedblue   Oct-26-07 07:33 PM   #125 
  - Doesn't matter either way cuz HE DIDN'T VOTE YES ON IT.  AtomicKitten   Oct-25-07 08:51 PM   #68 
  - speaking of Naive  Capn Sunshine   Oct-25-07 09:00 PM   #77 
  - I guess they'll wait to attack  Jim4Wes   Oct-25-07 09:06 PM   #81 
     - War without end, Amen  Capn Sunshine   Oct-25-07 09:10 PM   #84 
  - Another bullshit push poll?  martymar64   Oct-25-07 09:21 PM   #89 
  - Ewwh... Just saw Obama's new campaign ad on tv.  Tellurian   Oct-25-07 09:33 PM   #90 
  - LOL!  Lirwin2   Oct-25-07 11:19 PM   #102 
  - Bullshit. Hillary Supporter smear as always  FlaxieB   Oct-26-07 07:59 AM   #120 
  - I wish it were naivety  wlucinda   Oct-26-07 12:17 AM   #111 
  - I like Obama  fujiyama   Oct-26-07 12:54 AM   #116 
  - HEY it wasn't his fault!!!  phen43   Oct-26-07 11:15 AM   #122 
  - at least he didn't vote "yes" like Hillary  Think82   Oct-26-07 07:21 PM   #123 
  - At least he didn't care enough to vote  Lirwin2   Oct-27-07 12:22 PM   #126 
  - Unfortunately, Yes.  Catchawave   Oct-26-07 07:22 PM   #124 
 

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