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Tue Oct-23-07 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
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She is the leader or she isn't.
You think the republican leader would give in to this whiny shit from five idiots who wanted to censure another republican?
Oh, and once again, we care so very much what the republicans might SAY, oh, please save us from those righteous republicans, what might they do? Who refused any censure of their own, who defended every horrific spew that came out of their own members mouths?
WE HAVE THE MAJORITY NOW.
Why are we using it to humiliate our own side?
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| -Guys? Could we stop being so hyper about stupid shit? |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:16 PM |
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Hrmm.... |
MonkeyFunk |
Oct-23-07 02:18 PM |
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The constant scratching at the Democrats here is not based on truth, but manipulation. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-23-07 02:19 PM |
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Well I'm glad you're with us bottom feeders. |
Forkboy |
Oct-23-07 02:24 PM |
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"sitting around on the computer all day." Are you not behind a computer yourself? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 02:26 PM |
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Let me put it another way. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-23-07 06:13 PM |
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what have you done for democracy this week? |
robinlynne |
Oct-23-07 02:34 PM |
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Tried to keep us |
zidzi |
Oct-23-07 02:55 PM |
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Some of us are quite active in our efforts to change the world |
TechBear_Seattle |
Oct-23-07 02:59 PM |
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exactly. |
robinlynne |
Oct-23-07 03:10 PM |
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DEMS should be censuring Bush, not people opposed to Bush. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 02:21 PM |
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Politics is about things that are slightly more important than sending strongly worded letters. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:25 PM |
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LOL! A "letter" is about all you will ever get from some DEMS when it comes to attacking Bush. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 02:33 PM |
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The "action" that they've taken against Moveon and Stark is |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:36 PM |
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And it was discussed in the media. A censure of Bush would get 100% more coverage than either. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 02:44 PM |
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Okay, so what would be accomplished with censuring Bush is |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:45 PM |
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i don't know but when Russ Feingold tried it. he got skunked |
rodeodance |
Oct-23-07 02:48 PM |
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I would rather them not censure anti-war voices if they cant censure Bush. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:16 PM |
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Yeah. |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:18 PM |
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Yeah. But does it really matter? At all? No. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:20 PM |
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The low approval ratings for congress |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:21 PM |
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Yeah, Democrats want to be pandered to more, I guess. But far more than that, |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:23 PM |
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Pandered? |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:25 PM |
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"Representing" someone on meaningless issues |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:27 PM |
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Who are they pandering to by threatening to censure Stark, then? |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:30 PM |
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Mostly people who will never vote for or give money to DEMS-- Rush listeners. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:34 PM |
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The five Dems who voted for it? |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:34 PM |
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I see, and they set the agenda do they? |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:36 PM |
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The Party didn't turn on itself. Most Dems voted against the censure. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:39 PM |
#86 |
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Rather convoluted. |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:44 PM |
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Welcome to politics. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:47 PM |
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Wrong. It's called how to lose at politics. |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:57 PM |
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And the Republican slash-and-burn, take-no-prisoners, never-admit-defeat, fuck-the-other-guy |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:59 PM |
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So, we should never take a stand |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 04:02 PM |
#108 |
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Wrong. We should take a stand on issues that matter. Bullshit censure resolutions |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:04 PM |
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It would have been nice if the DEMS who attacked Stark & Moveon agreed with you. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 04:08 PM |
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Yes, but I can't really see getting upset over five Dems pandering |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:09 PM |
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If this were the first & only time "centrist" DEMS attacked anti-war voices- you would have a point |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 04:13 PM |
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If you think it doesn't matter |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 04:09 PM |
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You could start with |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:12 PM |
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You could start with |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 04:17 PM |
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Yes. Fortunately, they are. (See link in OP and sig) |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:18 PM |
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They are |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 04:30 PM |
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No one is saying we imitate Repubs. In fact, we want DEMS to DISAGREE with them on this. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 04:05 PM |
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ummm, don't know where you've been for the last seven years, |
stranger81 |
Oct-23-07 04:54 PM |
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Just now, someone posted a transcript of Limbaugh laughing |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 05:55 PM |
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I dont think that oppostion to the war is a meaningles issue. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:30 PM |
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Word. |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:31 PM |
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Toothless opposition is. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:35 PM |
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So these DEMS attack anti-war Liberals so that they wont get filibustered or vetoed? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:47 PM |
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the Dems have not been filibustered -- they've walked away from the fight |
stranger81 |
Oct-23-07 04:58 PM |
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In other words, we keep our powder dry so that the GOP doesnt have to. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 05:16 PM |
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It matters. The DEMS who are attacking Bush critics think it matters. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:27 PM |
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All 5 of 'em? They "think it matters" because they're pandering to their constituents. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:29 PM |
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Dont forget the censuring of Moveon.org. It's more than 5 DEMS who attack Libs but not Bush. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:41 PM |
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*sigh* Democrats are not pandering to the Rush Limbaugh set. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:42 PM |
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I see- it's not pandering to Rush listeners if the DEMS really do agree with them. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 03:55 PM |
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Exactly. For a moment I thought I was on |
truedelphi |
Oct-23-07 02:36 PM |
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"Reconcilitating Bush"? |
Common Sense Party |
Oct-23-07 03:19 PM |
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Makes sense to me! |
racaulk |
Oct-23-07 02:22 PM |
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Wishful thinkers believe that Nancy can do more |
NYCALIZ |
Oct-23-07 02:23 PM |
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Look, I rarely ever unload on them |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:23 PM |
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"...the likes of which come out of republicans mouths every day..." |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-23-07 02:24 PM |
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Oh, so it matters that it's on the floor, now |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:28 PM |
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Yes, I do think it's fair that we hold remarks on the House floor |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:31 PM |
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Tell it to the opposition |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:36 PM |
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Yeah. Schmidt apologized. Stark didn't. There's the difference. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:38 PM |
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*Her party defended her* |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:41 PM |
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And we thought they were a bunch of immoral fuckheads for having done so. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:43 PM |
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Ah, I see |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:50 PM |
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No, I don't think it ought have been censured. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:54 PM |
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And to the Republicans benefit. Every time the Democrats cave |
tsuki |
Oct-23-07 03:29 PM |
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Then impeach Rice and Cheney and Bush fast because they lied blatantly on the |
robinlynne |
Oct-23-07 02:36 PM |
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No shit, censure Bush and his entire administration |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:39 PM |
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And what exactly would that accomplish? |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:40 PM |
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What does censuring Stark accomplish? |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:42 PM |
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Nothing at all. So why get whipped up about it? |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:44 PM |
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The problem is you don't see this as the symptom |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:53 PM |
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Um...yes, the Republicans are obviously criminals and scum. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:56 PM |
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I never said, "censure Bush just for the hell of it" |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 02:59 PM |
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I never claimed you said that. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:01 PM |
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Actions like this |
incapsulated |
Oct-23-07 03:02 PM |
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Your right to decide what's important to you, I guess. nt |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:05 PM |
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Yeah. Republicans are smarter than that, actually. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-23-07 03:42 PM |
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how dare you insert Facts into an uproar |
NYCALIZ |
Oct-23-07 03:01 PM |
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Exactly, and why do so many commentators like KO keep talking.... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-07 02:48 PM |
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Well, let's think why that might be. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:51 PM |
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the dems do a damn fine job of portraying themselves as weak without the help of RW commentators |
frylock |
Oct-23-07 03:22 PM |
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No, I think you mean |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:26 PM |
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Let's analyze three commentators on teevee then... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-07 03:25 PM |
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Heh, let's go through it: |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:33 PM |
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So reading between the lines.... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-23-07 04:06 PM |
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Why, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:10 PM |
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You might as well wish for a billion dollars. |
Forkboy |
Oct-23-07 02:25 PM |
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Expressing an opinion isn't being hyper |
atreides1 |
Oct-23-07 02:25 PM |
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If you think Congress is a "gun fight," |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 02:30 PM |
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I respectfully disagree. |
monktonman |
Oct-23-07 02:27 PM |
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Look, the DLC got what it wanted -- an apology -- but it shouldn't |
stranger81 |
Oct-23-07 02:28 PM |
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when you don't have an argument, |
paulk |
Oct-23-07 02:34 PM |
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the argument's right there in black and white, |
stranger81 |
Oct-23-07 03:19 PM |
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bullshit |
paulk |
Oct-23-07 03:36 PM |
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But we should assume that DLCers disagreed with Stark-right? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 06:40 PM |
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yeah, sure - |
paulk |
Oct-23-07 06:56 PM |
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So the DLC and bluedogs were opposed to his apology? They were not for it? |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 07:04 PM |
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I'm not going to waste my time arguing with your strawmen. |
paulk |
Oct-23-07 07:09 PM |
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In other words, you cant defend the DLC's & centrist's conservative views and actions. |
Dr Fate |
Oct-23-07 07:13 PM |
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Now, put on these: |
tandot |
Oct-23-07 02:31 PM |
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Can somebody tell me who the 5 Dems were that voted for censure? Thanks. nt |
gateley |
Oct-23-07 02:34 PM |
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Thanks for posting this.. |
tridim |
Oct-23-07 02:39 PM |
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Yeah, and it's too bad My Issue is |
zidzi |
Oct-23-07 02:49 PM |
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kick nt |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:11 PM |
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Yadda, yadda, fucking yadda |
MadHound |
Oct-23-07 03:22 PM |
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Oh, the drama. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:24 PM |
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With what? Strongly worded letters? I am impressed... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 03:31 PM |
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No, on votes, as you would have seen if you had clicked the link in the OP, |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:37 PM |
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You're little statement that you're making is just a bit off |
MadHound |
Oct-23-07 03:41 PM |
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"every single liberal and leftist just got one huge message from the Democratic party" |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-23-07 03:45 PM |
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How are those subpoenas working out? Opposition MY ASS!!! |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 03:23 PM |
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Yeah, it's totally their fault that Bushco has buried all evidence. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:28 PM |
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Are they the majority party or not? If yes, then they need to start.. |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 03:30 PM |
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Acting like what? Doing what? Sending strongly-worded letters? |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:40 PM |
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Don't give me that crap...How have they opposed him? They have given him EVERYTHING he's demanded.. |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 03:43 PM |
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Yes, everything he's demanded in 14% of votes, |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:44 PM |
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War funding 100% of it. Wire-taps 100% of the time. Habeus Corpus STILL gone... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 03:45 PM |
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Habeaus Corpus was defeated in a party-line vote |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:58 PM |
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The phone companies are getting off scott free... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 04:13 PM |
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That is actually completely untrue. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:15 PM |
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In my reply I put the phrase "timeline"...do you think I meant the US wants them home tomorrow? |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 04:21 PM |
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Sorry I took "the vast majority of Americans want the troops home NOW." |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:24 PM |
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No the part about FISA that most interests me is why they started the taps months BEFORE 9/11... |
truebrit71 |
Oct-23-07 04:33 PM |
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Fortunately, the investigation is ongoing. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:41 PM |
#127 |
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You haven't even been here a month, and we're already grating on your nerves.... |
Totally Committed |
Oct-23-07 03:33 PM |
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Banana Republix are teh R0XX0rZ!! Or however you spell that. |
HughBeaumont |
Oct-23-07 03:37 PM |
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Please.... I know! |
Totally Committed |
Oct-23-07 03:40 PM |
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Wrong. I've been here since 2003. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:41 PM |
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And in my spare time, I'm a Victoria's Secret Model.... |
Totally Committed |
Oct-23-07 03:44 PM |
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You want evidence? Look at the semicolons. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:56 PM |
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You were Kelly Rupert? |
RandomKoolzip |
Oct-23-07 03:47 PM |
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Eh, it's not sockpuppeting. I let old names retire all the time, |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 03:51 PM |
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And here dies Rhythm and Blue. |
Rhythm and Blue |
Oct-23-07 04:51 PM |
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No. nt |
babylonsister |
Oct-23-07 04:16 PM |
#120 |
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what may seem stupid to you might be important to someone else. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Oct-23-07 05:20 PM |
#132 |
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