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Tue Oct-23-07 03:12 AM
Response to Reply #77 |
| 78. You still haven't answered my question. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 03:56 AM by JackBeck
I've given you some examples of religious community leaders that support the LGBT community (and I'm prepared to give you some more) yet you haven't supplied any examples to support your post.
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| -McClurkin: "I don't believe in discriminating against homosexuals" |
obamian |
Oct-22-07 09:07 PM |
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"The gloves are off!! No public funding for gay high schools! An easy target for molestation!" |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 09:09 PM |
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Your quote is from 2003. OP's quote is from today. |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:16 PM |
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He "doesn't believe homosexuality is God's intention" is from today. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 09:18 PM |
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Most Christians, including our candidates, probably agree. |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:19 PM |
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And they are just as fucking bigoted. n/t |
Solon |
Oct-22-07 09:20 PM |
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Putting these views on stage, in an "EMBRACE THE CHANGE!" concert is just over the top though. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 09:21 PM |
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he's not "putting these views on stage" |
darboy |
Oct-24-07 07:33 AM |
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And that makes it ok? |
DinoBoy |
Oct-22-07 09:26 PM |
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As ok as Hillary's and Edwards' changes over their IWR votes, I suppose. |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:34 PM |
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Nope, but it means that Obama alone should not be criticized for it |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-22-07 09:52 PM |
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That's his own personal view that is shared by many in the black community of faith. |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:21 PM |
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Then the black community of faith is extremely misguided. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 09:22 PM |
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Obama is giving McClurkin as much of a platform as Hillary with Rev. Mayberry... |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:31 PM |
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although donnie is a bit over the top |
madrchsod |
Oct-22-07 09:53 PM |
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Exactly. n/t |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 10:09 PM |
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He didn't give McClurkin's *views* a *platform* |
CreekDog |
Oct-24-07 07:28 AM |
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Martin Luther King, Jr must be spinning in his grave. |
JackBeck |
Oct-22-07 09:26 PM |
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The black community is not monolithic. n/t |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:32 PM |
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But you were the one that said: |
JackBeck |
Oct-22-07 09:38 PM |
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In my dictionary, "many" does not mean "all". |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:42 PM |
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And I see you overlooked "community leaders." |
JackBeck |
Oct-22-07 09:49 PM |
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:crickets: |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 01:33 AM |
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Looks like we asked too many questions. |
JackBeck |
Oct-23-07 02:10 AM |
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because you are accusing her of things she didn't say |
CreekDog |
Oct-24-07 07:33 AM |
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Not at all. |
DemFemme |
Oct-23-07 02:28 AM |
#75 |
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"That's his own personal view that is shared by many in the black community of faith." |
JackBeck |
Oct-23-07 02:51 AM |
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If you were black, you'd know what I was talking about. n/t |
DemFemme |
Oct-23-07 02:59 AM |
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You still haven't answered my question. |
JackBeck |
Oct-23-07 03:12 AM |
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I'm not interested in being the focus of your hostility. |
DemFemme |
Oct-23-07 03:39 AM |
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Where have I been hostile? |
JackBeck |
Oct-23-07 04:04 AM |
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Using the "Edit" button to erase your nasty comments to me, eh? |
DemFemme |
Oct-23-07 04:13 AM |
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Nope. |
JackBeck |
Oct-23-07 10:18 PM |
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Key term is "shared by many" which is borne out in polls, etc |
CreekDog |
Oct-24-07 07:31 AM |
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African-American Dems are more socially conservative then the average Dem. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-23-07 08:27 AM |
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And Black votes for Democrats helps LGBT issues |
CreekDog |
Oct-24-07 07:35 AM |
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Welcome to DU! |
EST |
Oct-22-07 09:55 PM |
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Thanks! |
DemFemme |
Oct-23-07 01:25 AM |
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I'm glad Mr. McClurkin knows exactly what God wants/ |
Olney Blue |
Oct-22-07 09:14 PM |
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The man is a bigot. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Oct-22-07 09:15 PM |
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So is Reverend Dr. Harold R. Mayberry, who has endorsed Hillary |
DemFemme |
Oct-22-07 09:25 PM |
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but Hillary is not Obama |
darboy |
Oct-24-07 07:36 AM |
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He's conflicted: he believes his past homosexual behavior was inconsistent with his religion |
struggle4progress |
Oct-22-07 09:46 PM |
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It doesn't matter why he thinks the way he thinks, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 09:55 PM |
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"I set me mind to stop cuz I thunk it were wrong" ain't necessarily bigotry |
struggle4progress |
Oct-23-07 09:51 PM |
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McClurkin really doesn't have a clue about how |
cboy4 |
Oct-22-07 09:17 PM |
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Or that blacks are "inferior" or Jews need to be "perfected". |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 09:19 PM |
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If he doesn't have a clue, then he may be responsible but not guilty |
hedgehog |
Oct-22-07 09:49 PM |
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Hedgehog, I don't disagree with your point that he |
cboy4 |
Oct-22-07 10:20 PM |
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I'm of several minds about this, believe me. |
hedgehog |
Oct-22-07 10:38 PM |
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So today's statement is supposed to absolve him from all the hate |
JackBeck |
Oct-22-07 09:24 PM |
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The more Obama supporters try to defend this guy the deeper the hole gets for their candidate. |
Forkboy |
Oct-22-07 09:27 PM |
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Actually some of his supporters here have done so much damage |
mitchtv |
Oct-22-07 09:33 PM |
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Although I support Clinton, I don't believe Obama has done anything wrong here. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 09:36 PM |
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Obama himself didn't do anything wrong until his weak statement. |
Forkboy |
Oct-22-07 10:08 PM |
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ain't that the truth |
sniffa |
Oct-23-07 08:40 AM |
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When are you guys finally going to get it? |
Sandaasu |
Oct-22-07 09:37 PM |
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No, you are wrong. It is not hate speech. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 09:43 PM |
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Who said anything about banning speech? |
Sandaasu |
Oct-22-07 09:47 PM |
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It's not hate speech to express one's moral beliefs. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 10:08 PM |
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If he were to try to cure a person's blackness would it be hate? |
MN Against Bush |
Oct-22-07 10:27 PM |
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:crickets: |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 01:34 AM |
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Sorry to disagree, but as a Jew, I certainly thought that |
bullwinkle428 |
Oct-23-07 08:44 AM |
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Fred Phelps expresses his "moral beliefs". |
youthere |
Oct-23-07 10:07 AM |
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it's the favoured response of anyone who wants a diversion |
iverglas |
Oct-23-07 10:48 AM |
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people do have personal viewpoints, and religious beliefs |
iverglas |
Oct-23-07 11:22 AM |
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YOu can compress shit into bars, but don't try to sell it to me as chocolate. n/t |
Solon |
Oct-22-07 09:38 PM |
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I Guess I'll Have to Go to Plan B on That One |
DrFunkenstein |
Oct-22-07 09:44 PM |
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What's a good shit compressor run a guy these days? |
Forkboy |
Oct-22-07 10:40 PM |
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So why did Obama state that he "strongly disagree with Reverend McClurkin’s views"? n/t |
ProSense |
Oct-22-07 09:40 PM |
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His views that homosexuality isn't the intention of God |
obamian |
Oct-22-07 09:44 PM |
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Like the majority of Christians and Muslims around the planet |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:56 PM |
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Who Are A Bunch Of A-Moral Bigots |
fightindonkey |
Oct-24-07 02:06 AM |
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Who freakin' cares? Guy's a fundie. We all know what fundies |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:44 PM |
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I actually respect Obama for inviting people he doesn't agree with. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 09:46 PM |
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I agree with you, cal. |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:48 PM |
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Sorry no, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 09:49 PM |
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Do you think John Edwards is a bigot? |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:53 PM |
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I said that all the hedging on gay marriage during the debate, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 10:04 PM |
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I do know much about the guy, but I don't agree with the characterization "gay basher" |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 10:11 PM |
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He's not a bigot. He has done nothing to demonstrate your accusation. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 09:59 PM |
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For many over here |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 10:01 PM |
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Well, then it is they who are the bigots. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 10:02 PM |
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He said homosexuality is a curse, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 10:09 PM |
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I don't think any of those things are bigotry. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 10:25 PM |
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We disagree. |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 10:31 PM |
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There's a difference between hate speech and misguided views. Yeah, we disagree. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-22-07 10:45 PM |
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interesting you and i agree on something |
madrchsod |
Oct-22-07 09:58 PM |
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You are really missing the issue. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-22-07 10:08 PM |
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I see hypocrisy |
ProSense |
Oct-22-07 10:12 PM |
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EXCELLENT! wtg ProSense |
themartyred |
Oct-22-07 10:55 PM |
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Obama said he got tested with his wife to clarfiy he wasn't involved with another |
obamian |
Oct-24-07 02:52 AM |
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It's a different context |
killbotfactory |
Oct-23-07 03:27 AM |
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Not all gospel singers are bigots. (nt) |
Sandaasu |
Oct-22-07 09:48 PM |
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Christianity, like most religions, |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 09:51 PM |
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So, all Chrstians are bigots now? |
Sandaasu |
Oct-22-07 09:58 PM |
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No, religions are dangerous things, sources of |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-22-07 10:13 PM |
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correct |
madrchsod |
Oct-22-07 10:30 PM |
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the bigots are those who assume they know what |
madrchsod |
Oct-22-07 10:15 PM |
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He's a bigot and a liar then. |
terrya |
Oct-23-07 10:10 AM |
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And? So he believes I shouldn't be discriminated against, just that I make the choice to be gay.... |
Kerry2008 |
Oct-23-07 10:13 AM |
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"I don't hate black people, but....." |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-23-07 10:13 AM |
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I sure wish DUers could muster even a fraction of this outrage when it comes to racial |
beaconess |
Oct-23-07 09:58 PM |
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sometimes I wonder |
darboy |
Oct-24-07 07:40 AM |
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The biggest bitchers are the ones supporting a candidate who touts her endorsment by mayberry! |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-23-07 10:06 PM |
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Excellent Point! There's a number of "hidden agendas" with SOME of this self-righteous indignation. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-23-07 10:11 PM |
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How about: if I decide btw Hillary and Obama, it will be based on them |
CreekDog |
Oct-24-07 07:40 AM |
#105 |
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