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Thu Feb-19-04 03:03 PM
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| 53. How exactly does that relate to all of the comparisons to OBL and |
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Saddam? I am not doubting you for a moment, I just don't see the connection! Jeesh, I think I am losing it.
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| -Would you have voted for or against the IWR? |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 12:46 PM |
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I would have voted against the IWR |
lastliberalintexas |
Feb-19-04 12:49 PM |
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This is difficult |
BayCityProgressive |
Feb-19-04 12:58 PM |
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if it weren't |
BayCityProgressive |
Feb-19-04 12:59 PM |
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Right...but in this specific situation it was George W. Bush |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 12:59 PM |
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that's the point |
acaudill |
Feb-19-04 01:20 PM |
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and he even said |
politick |
Feb-19-04 03:06 PM |
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"Nation building" |
lastliberalintexas |
Feb-19-04 01:04 PM |
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Would you have backed the first Gulf War if you knew that: |
FloridaPat |
Feb-19-04 01:05 PM |
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Might I add a fourth to this |
no name no slogan |
Feb-19-04 02:30 PM |
#46 |
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We invaded a sovereign nation...and set a dangerous precedent... |
Gin |
Feb-19-04 01:00 PM |
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the resolution wasn't a vote to invade or not invade |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 01:06 PM |
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Who woulda thought Bush would have used it to invade Iraq? |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 01:14 PM |
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Well of course it was a surprise to me |
lastliberalintexas |
Feb-19-04 01:18 PM |
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But he DIDN'T use it, nor did he need it, to invade Iraq |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 01:26 PM |
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But if he did not need it or use it |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 01:34 PM |
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If Bush didn't need the resolution to invade, why did we need it |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 01:35 PM |
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Because the executive is only one branch of government |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 01:49 PM |
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You just said Bush didn't need Congress's approval. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 02:12 PM |
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Bush commands the US military and one seat at the UN security council |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 03:24 PM |
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Okay...now you're just making stuff up. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 04:13 PM |
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Bull ! "Why We Need a Second UN Resolution" - Joe Biden |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 04:17 PM |
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OH...you mean the Biden/Lugar resolution. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 04:52 PM |
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No. that's not what I mean. The congressional resolution passed was |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 05:01 PM |
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Yes...supposedly because it gave Bush the power to invade. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:05 PM |
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Why don't you just admit you didn't pay enough attention to the issue |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 06:10 PM |
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HERE IT IS: H.J. res 114: |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 06:33 PM |
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"going to the un" is not the same thing as getting a second UN resolution |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 06:57 PM |
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Of course it was a rubber stamp. LOOK AT THE TITLE. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 07:06 PM |
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Actually, Bush* could have only stayed in for 90 days |
goobergunch |
Feb-19-04 07:08 PM |
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By the way, that was written March 10, 2003 |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 04:59 PM |
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An effort to stop a rush to war that the so-called IWR didn't endorse |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 05:04 PM |
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So what did that article have to do with a resolution |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:06 PM |
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It had to with your accusation that I "made up" the fact that without |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 06:21 PM |
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It's your pro-Kerry spin. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 06:43 PM |
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No, actually none of that is true, and you never stop putting words in my |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 07:07 PM |
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It wasn't necessary because Congress didn't MAKE it necessary |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 07:14 PM |
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I never said congress forced Bush to go to the UN |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 07:29 PM |
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The UN could have passed another resolution any time they |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 07:41 PM |
#124 |
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Bush needed it to stop talk on any other subject right before |
FloridaPat |
Feb-19-04 02:19 PM |
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Public Relations? |
GreenArrow |
Feb-19-04 02:38 PM |
#47 |
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No it wasn't unless you read the resolution |
vision |
Feb-19-04 02:29 PM |
#44 |
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determination and power he already had and posessed |
DaisyUCSB |
Feb-19-04 03:12 PM |
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Oh, I see. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 04:11 PM |
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Voted no in this poll |
sirjwtheblack |
Feb-19-04 01:02 PM |
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You know, |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 01:20 PM |
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Cleland voted FOR the IWR |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 01:33 PM |
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But he voted against the PA. That is why they were able to exploit his |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 01:42 PM |
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Only Feingold voted against the Patriot Act. |
greatauntoftriplets |
Feb-19-04 01:52 PM |
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Crap, I must have short term memory loss! |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 02:03 PM |
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They ran the ads against him because of |
goobergunch |
Feb-19-04 02:26 PM |
#42 |
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How exactly does that relate to all of the comparisons to OBL and |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 03:03 PM |
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exactly... but they apparently were effective despite the direct link |
salin |
Feb-19-04 05:56 PM |
#101 |
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Then why I don't I see any posts bashing him? He is not running for |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 02:06 PM |
#35 |
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Alright then. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 02:16 PM |
#39 |
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Answer this question for me... |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 02:27 PM |
#43 |
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Honestly, |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 02:42 PM |
#48 |
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I remember democrats being creamed for voicing any objection. |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 03:00 PM |
#51 |
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That's Wishful Thinking |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 05:21 PM |
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That's not wishful thinking. That's what the Bush administration did. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:36 PM |
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I Choose To Look At Things More Realistically |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 08:03 PM |
#126 |
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So did Carnahan |
vision |
Feb-19-04 02:30 PM |
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The truth is that neither of them WERE |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 02:44 PM |
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So..the decision to vote yes if one is running for office...is to save |
Gin |
Feb-19-04 07:21 PM |
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I wonder... |
cavebat2000 |
Feb-19-04 01:11 PM |
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Abrogation |
OhioDem |
Feb-19-04 01:17 PM |
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Interesting, 88% voted against |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 01:19 PM |
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Why don't you consider future wars? |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 01:24 PM |
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What makes you think there would not be more of the same |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 01:26 PM |
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Because Kerry and Edwards first of all didn't have a VP who was interested |
lovedems |
Feb-19-04 01:52 PM |
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did you know Kerry wanted to use unilateral military force in Haiti? |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 04:18 PM |
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We need to show our leadership that we're not going to tolerate |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 01:38 PM |
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I marched. e-mailed, etc. |
edzontar |
Feb-19-04 01:28 PM |
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an interesting poll would be how many who marched protested |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 01:31 PM |
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Not me. In the GE, since I'm in PA, I will vote Dem no matter who |
edzontar |
Feb-19-04 02:05 PM |
#34 |
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Correct, voting is a right |
Snivi Yllom |
Feb-19-04 03:01 PM |
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No fucking way. (n/t) |
goobergunch |
Feb-19-04 01:30 PM |
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Anyone who has not read "The Price of Loyalty" should. |
greatauntoftriplets |
Feb-19-04 01:31 PM |
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Despite my bitching, probably yea. |
poskonig |
Feb-19-04 01:34 PM |
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I would have voted for it |
aldian159 |
Feb-19-04 02:09 PM |
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watching Fox much? |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 05:04 PM |
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You sort of have to look at the question from the potential |
XanthaS |
Feb-19-04 02:11 PM |
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Hindsight bias. |
anti-NAFTA |
Feb-19-04 02:22 PM |
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I was rabidly against this war |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 02:58 PM |
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So was I. |
anti-NAFTA |
Feb-19-04 05:48 PM |
#95 |
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I knew * was lying from day one. |
pmn |
Feb-19-04 03:08 PM |
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Iwould not give bush permission to use my father in an oil war any one who |
corporatewhore |
Feb-19-04 03:15 PM |
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I adore your graphic!!!! This sums it up. |
edzontar |
Feb-19-04 05:03 PM |
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Not sure |
kiahzero |
Feb-19-04 03:21 PM |
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I voted for it |
darboy |
Feb-19-04 03:56 PM |
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Against |
buddhamama |
Feb-19-04 04:24 PM |
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17% would have? |
Sean Reynolds |
Feb-19-04 04:54 PM |
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PLEASE CLARIFY: If I Were A Senator? If The Vote Was A Public Referendum? |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 04:58 PM |
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If you were a senator. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:01 PM |
#70 |
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As A Politically Savvy Senator, Seeing The Trap Had Been Set I Would Have |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 05:07 PM |
#79 |
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It wasn't meaningless because leadership affects public support |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:10 PM |
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Yes, It Was Simply An Exercise And A Trap. |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 05:18 PM |
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Then why did this "political professional" vote against GWI |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 05:36 PM |
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Oh Good Grief! |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 06:35 PM |
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Good grief right back atcha! |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 07:17 PM |
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I Don't Believe You Have Anything To Worry About |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 07:27 PM |
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I was against the war. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:41 PM |
#94 |
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Only Two Candidates Stand A Chance At Becoming President |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 06:22 PM |
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I don't have to vote for either of them. That's the beauty of democracy. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 06:51 PM |
#110 |
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But You ARE Helping Bush. You ARE, You ARE! |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 07:20 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Feb-19-04 05:01 PM |
#72 |
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That wasn't the question |
XanthaS |
Feb-19-04 05:07 PM |
#78 |
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Let me put your question in "bold" and read it again |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 05:23 PM |
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When The Question Is Framed As "If I Were Senator"...Then My Answer Is YES |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 05:12 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-19-04 05:28 PM |
#87 |
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Yes I'm Insulted... But I'll Answer Your Questions Anyway |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 06:14 PM |
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The prose is very smooth |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 07:22 PM |
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Name Calling Is Not A Way To Encourage Me To Answer Your Questions |
arwalden |
Feb-19-04 07:42 PM |
#125 |
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I'm not pro-invasion. |
poskonig |
Feb-19-04 07:25 PM |
#121 |
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Back then I remember being for the resolution... |
LoZoccolo |
Feb-19-04 05:10 PM |
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Heck, even Al Franken was pro-invasion! |
XanthaS |
Feb-19-04 05:11 PM |
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The majority of Germans supported Hitler |
Jacobin |
Feb-19-04 05:30 PM |
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The point is, many good people were misled |
XanthaS |
Feb-19-04 05:54 PM |
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I would have voted no |
wabeewoman |
Feb-19-04 05:33 PM |
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Against |
mvd |
Feb-19-04 05:34 PM |
#90 |
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A definite NO! n/t |
bigwillq |
Feb-19-04 05:39 PM |
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I Voted No |
Leilani |
Feb-19-04 05:48 PM |
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Now THAT'S courage. |
BullGooseLoony |
Feb-19-04 05:50 PM |
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I would have voted a resounding NO!!!! |
lams712 |
Feb-19-04 05:50 PM |
#98 |
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Abstain |
Slice |
Feb-19-04 05:54 PM |
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At the time Yea... Now, not a chance in hell I'd vote for it. |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-19-04 06:17 PM |
#104 |
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Oops I thought it said AGAINST the war not 'for or against'-- |
holyrollerdem |
Feb-19-04 07:11 PM |
#115 |
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