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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 06:12 PM
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38. I found this transcript of Biden on Meet The Press (not sure if it's the one)
April 29, 2007
MR. RUSSERT: You said this back in October of 02: We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after. Do you believe well be in Iraq for a decade?

SEN. BIDEN: I said back then, before we went to war, I wrote a report saying the decade after, and everyone was talking about the day after. And the point I was making was, if you went in and used force, which he should not have done when he did it, that we were committing and signing on to a decade. That was thethat was the minimum requirement. I also pointed out we needed more troops. I also pointed out at that time we would not be greeted with open arms. I also pointed out at that time oil would not pay for this. It was a warning, a warning to the president. Mr. President, the objective of us giving you this authority is to get inspectors back in, bring the pressure of the world communitywhich remember, at the time, when we were sitting here talking about this, theat that moment the issue was are we going to pull out ofare we going to lift sanctions on Iraq or are we going to put more sanctions on Iraq? That, that was the context in which that debate was taking place.

I'm sorry, but I am not satisfied with that explanation. First, Senator Biden was on board with the agenda of a long term U.S. military presence in Iraq. What he apparently has a problem with is the incompetence with which the agenda was carried out. I guess I can't fault him for failing to anticipate such gross incompetence on the part of our government, and he did realize from the start it wasn't going to be a cakewalk. But I disagree strongly with the agenda in the first place, and Joe either didn't have a very firm understanding of the intent of this neocon administration to invade Iraq no matter what, or he understood and concurred. Any intelligent person familiar with PNAC and who listened to the rhetoric coming from the White House knew they weren't interested primarily in another UN inspection regime that might confirm the absence of WMD and avert a war.

After reading this transcript I have less regard for Joe Biden and the judgement he showed. If you have a better explanation from him, please post it.
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  -NYT - BIDEN: Nobody, including the president, has a firmer grasp of international affairs. pirhana  Oct-22-07 03:44 PM   #0 
  - The president's "grasp of international affairs" is a pretty low bar.  daninthemoon   Oct-22-07 03:52 PM   #1 
  - The piece was not just referring to the President.  pirhana   Oct-22-07 03:55 PM   #2 
     - I know, i'm just sayin. I like biden, and i know he has a good grasp  daninthemoon   Oct-22-07 04:04 PM   #4 
        - Fortunately Biden can be favorably compared to more  tsegat01   Oct-22-07 04:16 PM   #5 
  - Thus far the comments are all very positive  tsegat01   Oct-22-07 03:57 PM   #3 
  - I saw him on CSPAN last week working a room (in Iowa I think) . . .  MrModerate   Oct-22-07 04:24 PM   #6 
  - that reputation is really a mischaracterization  Think82   Oct-22-07 06:16 PM   #10 
  - You got that right. He blew my socks off . . .  MrModerate   Oct-23-07 08:46 AM   #14 
  - That's what drew me to him initially - he's so "real". Sounds trite, but you  gateley   Oct-23-07 11:38 AM   #18 
  - You can't fake that kind of "real"  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 01:03 PM   #28 
  - "As articulate as Clinton the First"  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 01:01 PM   #27 
  - Short version - Biden needs a coach to tell him when it's time to wrap it up?  ShortnFiery   Oct-23-07 11:46 AM   #22 
  - Once the media puts a tag on someone  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 12:59 PM   #26 
  - It is the political ploy of attacking a politician's strengths  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 10:47 PM   #36 
  - Now knowing Bidden as a former stutterer  Froward69   Oct-22-07 10:53 PM   #13 
     - And he really has a LOT to say!  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 01:03 PM   #29 
  - If there were any fairness in the way we chose candidates, this race would be  Rhythm and Blue   Oct-22-07 04:28 PM   #7 
  - I am optimistic that we can change that  tsegat01   Oct-22-07 04:30 PM   #8 
  - how about Richardson, Biden and Dodd  cryingshame   Oct-22-07 06:20 PM   #11 
  - Agreed, Dodd doesn't get nearly enough credit  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 03:28 PM   #34 
  - I agree - and I'd throw in Chris Dodd, too. Compared to Obama and Clinton,  gateley   Oct-23-07 11:41 AM   #19 
  - I'm thinking positively for Biden. Remember -  Imalittleteapot   Oct-22-07 05:09 PM   #9 
  - That's what keeps me going.  pirhana   Oct-22-07 06:31 PM   #12 
  - And Howard Dean was the front runner  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 12:58 PM   #25 
  - Joe is no slouch on domestic policy either...  youthere   Oct-23-07 08:53 AM   #15 
  - kicking for Joe!!  murbley40   Oct-23-07 09:18 AM   #16 
  - And few people realize how our disastrous foreign policy  tsegat01   Oct-23-07 12:00 PM   #23 
  - To be fair - my cats have a firmer grasp on international affairs than that dimwit in the white hous  LynneSin   Oct-23-07 09:25 AM   #17 
  - That's why we need someone who knows what s/he's doing. Does your cat  gateley   Oct-23-07 11:43 AM   #20 
  - True true! The only *firm grasp* that our Dear Leader has ...  ShortnFiery   Oct-23-07 11:44 AM   #21 
  - Biden must have learned a lot in the last 5 years ...  Martin Eden   Oct-23-07 12:46 PM   #24 
  - I think he DID learn a lot since then. Part of his reasoning for voting against  gateley   Oct-23-07 01:56 PM   #33 
     - You're more forgiving than I am.  Martin Eden   Oct-23-07 06:02 PM   #35 
        - I believe he admitted it was a mistake.  CrispyQGirl   Oct-23-07 11:43 PM   #37 
  - So, the IWR vote?  Dawgs   Oct-23-07 01:06 PM   #30 
  - Go to the Meet The Press website and watch his interview from March  Think82   Oct-23-07 01:14 PM   #31 
     - I found this transcript of Biden on Meet The Press (not sure if it's the one)  Martin Eden   Oct-24-07 06:12 PM   #38 
  - kick  murbley40   Oct-23-07 01:30 PM   #32 
  - Go Joe!  demommom   Oct-24-07 06:38 PM   #39 
  - kick  murbley40   Oct-25-07 10:22 AM   #40 

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