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Sat Nov-03-07 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #116 |
| 118. Some of the excuses about this make my head spin. |
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Its not right and there's no excuse. This whole thing sucks.
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| -Why Obama's Gospel Tour won't Hurt him One Bit |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-21-07 11:02 PM |
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Yup, because it's all about getting the most votes right? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-21-07 11:04 PM |
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Since when the fuck is being religion...RIGHT-WING?? |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-21-07 11:07 PM |
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Calling homosexuality a "curse", declaring a "war on homosexuality"... |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-21-07 11:09 PM |
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Fact is, it wouldn't matter what religious person Obama showed up with |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-21-07 11:12 PM |
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Bullshit |
incapsulated |
Oct-21-07 11:15 PM |
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He'd be a hit with the Dalai Lama, easily, or Bishop Desmond Tutu. NT |
MADem |
Oct-21-07 11:30 PM |
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Obama would make a better Pastor than a President |
Tellurian |
Oct-22-07 12:00 AM |
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That's a joke, right? |
redqueen |
Oct-22-07 10:58 AM |
#44 |
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I'm Catholic, and I don't mind at all that Obama has religious convictions |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 04:11 PM |
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Don't misunderstand my quibbling over terms - |
JackRiddler |
Oct-22-07 08:40 AM |
#36 |
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Imagine if Hillary was connected to Homophobic Bigotry? DU would EXPLODE! |
MethuenProgressive |
Oct-22-07 04:52 PM |
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Being that you said that. Bill was with Donnie on stage on 9/15/07 |
Ethelk2044 |
Oct-22-07 10:38 PM |
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Still trying to defend Obama buy using the ABC I see. |
ronnykmarshall |
Oct-26-07 07:31 PM |
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I call it "The ABC's of reactionaries" |
cuke |
Nov-07-07 11:16 AM |
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When it is homophobic, it is right wing. |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 04:07 PM |
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Welcome to real-world politics, Junior. |
tomreedtoon |
Oct-21-07 11:39 PM |
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This is exactly what I'm talking about... |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-21-07 11:41 PM |
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Well, I'm sure it seems that way to a lot of gays. |
tomreedtoon |
Oct-21-07 11:49 PM |
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alive & well |
greeneyedboy |
Oct-22-07 05:05 PM |
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Why can't he find common ground with religious folks who aren't homophobic? |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 04:09 PM |
#50 |
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Yeah, right |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-23-07 01:24 PM |
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That is an absurd comment coming from a Hillary supporter. n/t |
Inspired |
Oct-22-07 07:14 PM |
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Except this has nothing to do with religion |
incapsulated |
Oct-21-07 11:07 PM |
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This has everything to do with religion... |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-21-07 11:10 PM |
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But they aren't angry about the gospel tour |
incapsulated |
Oct-21-07 11:11 PM |
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Before this people were angry with Obama using religious metaphors in Church |
killbotfactory |
Oct-22-07 01:30 AM |
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Nuance. FAR fewer people were upset about his religious stuff before... |
redqueen |
Oct-22-07 11:00 AM |
#46 |
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The gospel tour idea is fine; it's the homophobic headliner that's the problem. NT |
MADem |
Oct-21-07 11:31 PM |
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Your arguments don't make sense unless you think all Christians are homophobic. |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 04:13 PM |
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I'm not anti religion |
spag68 |
Oct-21-07 11:07 PM |
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As an atheist, I like Obama's views about religion and government. |
eallen |
Nov-07-07 11:57 AM |
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Why are you conflating being anti homophobia with being anti religious? |
ruggerson |
Oct-21-07 11:09 PM |
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Bingo |
rodeodance |
Oct-21-07 11:40 PM |
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Good question. n/t |
redqueen |
Oct-22-07 10:58 AM |
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Oh, I think it's a problem. |
MADem |
Oct-21-07 11:28 PM |
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I agree ~ if every Democratic politician decided to never appear |
goclark |
Oct-21-07 11:44 PM |
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I will oppose any politician who |
seasonedblue |
Oct-21-07 11:51 PM |
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Democrats should meet with homophobes because they have different views?? |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 02:21 AM |
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they shouLd embrace skinheads too |
sniffa |
Oct-22-07 07:18 AM |
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Yes, they should be in their "presents" too. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 08:29 AM |
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i Love DUers |
sniffa |
Oct-22-07 08:39 AM |
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If politicians refused to associate with anyone who disagreed with them democracy wouldn't function. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-23-07 04:03 PM |
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You're right |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-22-07 10:44 AM |
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The Neo-Nazis deserve a place at the table too. Their views should be heard. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 04:45 PM |
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Maybe he can do an appearance with a flat earther next. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-22-07 05:54 PM |
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Obama's Gospel Tour: The political equivalent of a "hail Mary pass". |
oasis |
Oct-21-07 11:49 PM |
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It will hurt him. Very poor judgment |
durrrty libby |
Oct-21-07 11:49 PM |
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The Obama campaign may survive it, but Obama's standing on DU will never be |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-21-07 11:57 PM |
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"jaw-droppingly offensive " |
seasonedblue |
Oct-22-07 12:07 AM |
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I actually think they responded with restraint compared to.. |
incapsulated |
Oct-22-07 12:10 AM |
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No, nationally it won't hurt him... |
MonkeyFunk |
Oct-22-07 12:00 AM |
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"Atheist types". Yeah, screw them. And the gay types, too. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 02:13 AM |
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Not your type |
lamprey |
Oct-22-07 02:42 AM |
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in his own words |
bcoylepa |
Oct-22-07 08:34 AM |
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Stupid move Obama! |
Cobalt Violet |
Oct-22-07 08:37 AM |
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As others have already CLEARLY pointed out, but you choose to ignore... |
trotsky |
Oct-22-07 08:42 AM |
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Damn right! Pro-Rights and Pro-Dignity, this MFer smears religious people who AREN'T homophobic... |
Solon |
Oct-22-07 04:39 PM |
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I agree with you about this not hurting as much as it helps with the Black vote BUT I STILL DON'T... |
wndycty |
Oct-22-07 08:44 AM |
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(self delete - posted) |
lamprey |
Oct-22-07 08:45 AM |
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Yes, you have to watch out for those atheist types |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-22-07 10:48 AM |
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Maybe I should ask all of you anti-religion people the same? |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-22-07 04:21 PM |
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Are the "anti-religion" people touring to "convert" you? |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 04:48 PM |
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I wouldn't know |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-22-07 05:01 PM |
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That's complete and utter shash. |
Forkboy |
Oct-22-07 10:56 AM |
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I really, really like Obama, but don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining. This is a mistake. |
Stop Cornyn |
Oct-22-07 10:59 AM |
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I think so too. I've contacted his campaign and asked them to respond to it. |
thecatburgler |
Oct-22-07 11:25 AM |
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Yes we do |
DinoBoy |
Nov-07-07 08:27 PM |
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I tend to agree with you. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Oct-22-07 11:03 AM |
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How can you say this is a good move? There were unlimited ways to |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 04:18 PM |
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Like I said, this will not nearly hurt Obama nationally as much as |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-22-07 04:23 PM |
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That may well be true, but why hurt himself with any Democrats at all |
pnwmom |
Oct-22-07 10:31 PM |
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Name removed |
Oct-22-07 04:26 PM |
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READ WHAT THE FUCK I'M WRITING!!! |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-22-07 04:48 PM |
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Yeah, frankly, his decision does shit on gay "types". |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 04:50 PM |
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Here's a dollar, I'll buy a clue for you, you ready? |
Solon |
Oct-22-07 04:59 PM |
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Well I'm not running so I can say what the hell I want... |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-22-07 05:01 PM |
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And we can recognize your character for what it is. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 05:04 PM |
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yeah...absent. |
Forkboy |
Oct-22-07 05:05 PM |
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You said it. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 05:06 PM |
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McCloset actually advocates for the torture of people to "convert" them to be straight, and you... |
Solon |
Oct-22-07 05:07 PM |
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I have words |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-22-07 05:14 PM |
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Buy a clue |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Oct-22-07 05:12 PM |
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Word. |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 05:41 PM |
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Yeah, nice try. |
Harvey Korman |
Oct-22-07 05:13 PM |
#72 |
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Are you guys denying that there are anti-religion people on DU |
Bullet1987 |
Oct-22-07 08:34 PM |
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It simply shows that obama has compassion for someone who suffered terribly as a child |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-22-07 08:45 PM |
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Many neonazis had poor home training, should we put them on stage out of compassion? |
Bluebear |
Oct-22-07 08:48 PM |
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Is that you, Zandor??? |
opiate69 |
Oct-22-07 10:47 PM |
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I am a DEEPLYspiritual DUer... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-23-07 01:05 PM |
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THANK YOU! |
swimboy |
Oct-23-07 01:23 PM |
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I have been positively... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-23-07 01:54 PM |
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I think it will actually benefit Obama in the short term |
sampsonblk |
Oct-23-07 02:25 PM |
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And he will lose the support of the GLBT community. If that's worth it, have at it. |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 02:56 PM |
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Don't bother with that poster, they believe that all Christians either are or should be homophobes. |
Solon |
Oct-23-07 03:00 PM |
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I see. He is actually GLEEFUL that this will help Obama. |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 03:02 PM |
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No, and actually, I am for Clinton |
sampsonblk |
Oct-23-07 04:17 PM |
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I could care less who you are for, you gleefully say this will help Obama. And NO apology. |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 05:14 PM |
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Actually, it was just an analysis |
sampsonblk |
Oct-23-07 06:04 PM |
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Apparently, he doesn't care if he loses that support. |
terrya |
Oct-23-07 03:08 PM |
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Please understand that "black" and "gay" are not mutually exclusive |
Chovexani |
Oct-26-07 08:04 PM |
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bigoted hateful posts stay around.....I wonder why? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Oct-23-07 03:00 PM |
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Its better that everyone sees this hate displayed than to hide it and let it fester. n/t |
Solon |
Oct-23-07 03:03 PM |
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I agree...but my smartass comments should stay around too, so everyone can see... |
IndianaJones |
Oct-23-07 03:04 PM |
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That goes without saying. |
Bluebear |
Oct-23-07 03:04 PM |
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They get deleted, yet this insidious crap OP remains. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Oct-23-07 03:05 PM |
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This isn't about religion, it's about homohobia. |
Totally Committed |
Oct-23-07 03:15 PM |
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This is NOT about religion...IT'S ABOUT BIGOTRY AND HOMOPHOBIA. |
CyberPieHole |
Oct-26-07 11:32 AM |
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Make no mistake... |
Karenina |
Oct-26-07 12:39 PM |
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Jesse Jackson is a preacher |
sampsonblk |
Oct-26-07 12:59 PM |
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Politically, pissing off the left side of the party usually helps a candidate |
CreekDog |
Oct-26-07 12:53 PM |
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So, Gobama! Go Jesus! And you whiny gays, STFU. In other words. |
Bluebear |
Oct-26-07 01:29 PM |
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no i didn't say that (and i'm not a supporter) |
CreekDog |
Oct-26-07 05:03 PM |
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no. |
ulysses |
Oct-26-07 08:35 PM |
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...which appealed to white southerners nt |
CreekDog |
Oct-26-07 11:18 PM |
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which is what I said. a question - |
ulysses |
Oct-27-07 12:04 AM |
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this was the quote that got clinton into trouble and got him praise |
CreekDog |
Oct-27-07 12:58 AM |
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because he's not going to be the nominee anyway... |
ileus |
Oct-26-07 08:24 PM |
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Come on, this is not about being anti-religion. |
Cass |
Nov-03-07 04:15 PM |
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We've been through that dozens of times before |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-03-07 06:00 PM |
#116 |
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Some of the excuses about this make my head spin. |
Cass |
Nov-03-07 08:25 PM |
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"Anti-religion/atheist type" here, checking in. |
Zenlitened |
Nov-03-07 08:05 PM |
#117 |
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Anti-religion/Atheist here.... |
CyberPieHole |
Nov-07-07 01:44 AM |
#119 |
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Two weeks later: this was a non-story in the real world |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 02:29 AM |
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'edit: diction' ....you pronounced something wrong? |
Bluebear |
Nov-07-07 09:44 AM |
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Why was this thread bumped? |
Bullet1987 |
Nov-07-07 09:47 AM |
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How would I know? Ask sampsonblk |
Bluebear |
Nov-07-07 09:48 AM |
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No, ask Ask CyberPieHole - nt |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 12:02 PM |
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Whatever |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 09:48 AM |
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"Whatever"...the fact that GLBT still feel the sting of this, & you dismiss it as a non-event. |
Bluebear |
Nov-07-07 09:49 AM |
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Don't get all emotional on me |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 10:33 AM |
#126 |
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Well, to be fair the media did talk about it for a couple days |
Bullet1987 |
Nov-07-07 11:14 AM |
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I agree absolutely. - nt |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 11:48 AM |
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Well, sampsonblk has declared it a non-event |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Nov-07-07 11:47 AM |
#130 |
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Thanks |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 11:49 AM |
#132 |
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"Obama has not felt compelled to make a big public apology." |
Bluebear |
Nov-07-07 07:05 PM |
#135 |
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I wouldn't go that far |
sampsonblk |
Nov-07-07 07:48 PM |
#136 |
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Are you equating religion with homophobia? That's going to insult a lot of religious people here. |
yardwork |
Nov-07-07 11:19 AM |
#129 |
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So throwing gays AND atheists under the bus is the best way to win |
DinoBoy |
Nov-07-07 08:22 PM |
#137 |
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