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markm Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:22 PM
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14. Dean: The newest choosen one
Dean supporters think they have already won. They haven't and they will be surprised at the end result. The primary system is all about finding the best candidate. Let's use the system and keep the man who would be the weakest Democratic candidate in 20 some years from being our one shot to remove Bush. We can do better than this. We must.

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  -Dean doesn't get it--- democratic party wants attacks on Dean to WORK MIMStigator  Dec-28-03 10:59 PM   #0 
  - The DNC has their collective head up their ass  wtmusic   Dec-28-03 11:10 PM   #1 
  - since the latest poll shows dean at 16%  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-29-03 06:03 AM   #113 
  - And your candidate is polling what? (n/t)  HFishbine   Dec-29-03 07:36 AM   #121 
  - Dean dropped from 23% to 16% in one week; undecided dropped 4% to 24%  flpoljunkie   Dec-29-03 08:00 AM   #122 
     - And Kerry's still stuck at 4  HFishbine   Dec-29-03 08:03 AM   #123 
     - dean dropped in new hampshire too  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-29-03 02:26 PM   #147 
  - I'm just not getting this at all  pam k78   Dec-29-03 09:13 AM   #129 
  - That is why we are supporting Dean.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:13 PM   #2 
  - Clark supporters want to win  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:16 PM   #4 
  - Well, they did not win the battle for my vote or my husband's.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:20 PM   #11 
     - They want the democrat to win even if it's Dean but  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:21 PM   #12 
     - They have no way of knowing that. It is pure spin. Spin. Spin..  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:35 PM   #28 
     - if defending their candidate is too much for the dean campaign  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-29-03 06:17 AM   #116 
     - Exactly. The constant Lies and Attacks  RetroLounge   Dec-29-03 08:35 AM   #124 
  - A fair assessment of attacks  Jim4Wes   Dec-28-03 11:23 PM   #15 
  - No, that is not true at all. There is a very low % of Clark bashing.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:36 PM   #30 
  - Not Sure What You Mean  Justice   Dec-28-03 11:42 PM   #37 
  - You are spinning. Do a search. Stop spinning that. It is wrong.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:46 PM   #41 
  - All I can say to that is  Jim4Wes   Dec-28-03 11:46 PM   #40 
  - Right, you do the tally.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:49 PM   #47 
  - Dean Supporters Were Here Already? POPPYCOCK!  cryingshame   Dec-29-03 08:52 AM   #125 
  - Clark bashing? where?  drfemoe   Dec-28-03 11:41 PM   #35 
     - Where were you this morning?  Jim4Wes   Dec-28-03 11:49 PM   #46 
     - Find them and post them.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:51 PM   #49 
     - When the first page was all Clark bashing?  drfemoe   Dec-28-03 11:57 PM   #55 
     - Maybe it's because  Frenchie4Clark   Dec-29-03 02:19 AM   #107 
     - Discussing legitimate news stories is "bashing?"  jumptheshadow   Dec-29-03 06:04 AM   #114 
  - What militarism from his supporters???  hope42mro   Dec-28-03 11:39 PM   #34 
  - Kosovo is a Failure  drfemoe   Dec-28-03 11:46 PM   #42 
  - couldn't wait for the tally?  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:18 AM   #72 
  - See, that is our point. You guys have blamed Dean for everything.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:19 AM   #75 
     - Please  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:33 AM   #79 
     - Do a search on the topics.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:44 AM   #84 
     - That is present day  drfemoe   Dec-29-03 12:48 AM   #91 
        - You had a better solution then  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:53 AM   #95 
           - Clark's failure  drfemoe   Dec-29-03 02:00 AM   #104 
     - Maybe it is rotated.  bitchkitty   Dec-29-03 06:33 AM   #118 
  - Go tell it to the judge - in Hague.This is about HD whining  robbedvoter   Dec-29-03 07:29 AM   #119 
  - Welcome to DU ..hope42mro. Sorry the reply to your very first post  oasis   Dec-29-03 01:35 AM   #100 
  - well if his campaign is tired of fighting, then obviously  bearfartinthewoods   Dec-29-03 06:06 AM   #115 
  - "WE decided?"  lurk_no_more   Dec-29-03 01:27 PM   #142 
  - The current DLC/DNC are "winners"??  AntiCoup2k   Dec-28-03 11:15 PM   #3 
  - They have a good record for presidential elections  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:16 PM   #5 
  - Yeh, they just don't do well in congressional elections.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:18 PM   #7 
  - evidence 2000 and 2002....  darboy   Dec-28-03 11:18 PM   #8 
  - Repukes won in 2000?  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:19 PM   #10 
     - Well, their guy is in the WH now, isn't he?  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:23 PM   #17 
  - No, they let Gore swing in the breeze in 2000.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:22 PM   #13 
  - The DNC had no say in whatever happened  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:23 PM   #16 
  - They did not even try.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:34 PM   #26 
  - gore left himself swinging  lurk_no_more   Dec-29-03 01:33 PM   #143 
  - They have Clinton... one charasmatic person... that's it  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:26 PM   #21 
  - Laughable  Jim4Wes   Dec-28-03 11:34 PM   #27 
     - Just because you've sold you're soul, doesn't bind me to same  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:45 PM   #39 
     - You can't change anything if you lose  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:48 PM   #44 
        - So when Clark invades Syria it won't smell so bad  wtmusic   Dec-28-03 11:49 PM   #48 
        - Links? n/t  Donna Zen   Dec-29-03 12:15 AM   #70 
           - See my post in GD regular on Iraq.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:18 AM   #73 
        - Wrong, stop spinning.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:52 PM   #51 
        - Dean is the one with the support. He's crushing the DLC boys.  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:56 PM   #54 
           - That is just what they are doing.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:03 AM   #61 
        - I plan to win AND create change  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:54 PM   #52 
     - If the DLC's main purpose is to analyze the voting public  wtmusic   Dec-28-03 11:48 PM   #45 
        - Dean is running an unconventional campaign  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:01 AM   #59 
           - See? You are doing it. Slipping into the military mode slyly.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:07 AM   #65 
           - DLC is to blame for cynical mindset  mouse7   Dec-29-03 12:19 AM   #74 
              - Kudos to Mouse for that.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:20 AM   #77 
              - The issues you raise should be addressed  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:31 AM   #78 
                 - Oh, the FCC thing that nearly the whole country supported?  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:40 AM   #82 
                 - Dean is not the only one  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:45 AM   #85 
                 - By the way, I'm ABB  mouse7   Dec-29-03 12:48 AM   #90 
                    - You have done a good job.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:50 AM   #94 
                       - Clark's been pretty cool on the "attack"issue  mouse7   Dec-29-03 01:03 AM   #97 
                          - Clark leaves it to his supporters to do it, I fear.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 01:46 AM   #102 
                             - That's what "peer pressure" is for  mouse7   Dec-29-03 01:50 AM   #103 
                             - Um, which supporters?  jmaier   Dec-29-03 02:02 PM   #145 
  - Bill Clinton IS their entire record  rucky   Dec-29-03 12:06 AM   #64 
  - 2000 should have been a cakewalk. They blew it.  cynicalSOB1   Dec-29-03 01:28 AM   #99 
  - You can't win without votes  Jim4Wes   Dec-28-03 11:25 PM   #19 
     - There are other candidates who do not instill so much hate.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:30 PM   #23 
     - please note...  bain_sidhe   Dec-29-03 12:12 AM   #69 
        - Not my post, it was posted by a Clark supporter today to bash Dean.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:16 AM   #71 
           - HUH?  bain_sidhe   Dec-29-03 12:49 AM   #92 
     - Disingaged from picking from way-right and a little less way-right.  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:32 PM   #25 
     - Right, they are being ideologues. Just like Bush.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:38 PM   #31 
     - What votes do we have now.  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:48 PM   #43 
        - I think I cover that in post #59  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:04 AM   #62 
  - Of course the DNC leadership wants the attacks to work...  dajabr   Dec-28-03 11:16 PM   #6 
  - They see grip on power of democrats threatened by DEAN  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:19 PM   #9 
     - Right turns equal apathy  mouse7   Dec-29-03 12:00 AM   #57 
     - Dean nomination means...  dajabr   Dec-29-03 12:08 AM   #66 
     - So true and they know it.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:10 AM   #68 
     - Oh, please!  Toot   Dec-29-03 09:08 AM   #128 
  - Dean: The newest choosen one  markm   Dec-28-03 11:22 PM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-28-03 11:24 PM   #18 
  - Link to that statement?  Brian_Expat   Dec-28-03 11:44 PM   #38 
  - Heard the statement TONS tonight...sadly, no link  rucky   Dec-29-03 12:09 AM   #67 
     - A little from Bertrand Russell about that.  Hep   Dec-29-03 12:20 AM   #76 
  - That is not true.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:54 PM   #53 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-29-03 12:05 AM   #63 
  - I wish I hadn't listened to him about that one.  JVS   Dec-29-03 12:50 AM   #93 
  - He didn't say that at all.  cynicalSOB1   Dec-29-03 01:41 AM   #101 
  - I don't care if he wins if he wakes people up. Your remark is insulting.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:26 PM   #20 
  - My attacks on Dean are not accidental  MIMStigator   Dec-28-03 11:29 PM   #22 
  - Then go ahead. There are other candidates than Clark.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:31 PM   #24 
  - How scary is this?  pam k78   Dec-29-03 09:44 AM   #130 
     - No, that is not right. That is not what is killing the Democratic Party.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 10:37 AM   #132 
        - Yep, we do  pam k78   Dec-29-03 12:59 PM   #137 
  - No... they think they have a strong lead  mouse7   Dec-28-03 11:39 PM   #32 
  - We will be surprised at the end result? Based on what?  wtmusic   Dec-28-03 11:42 PM   #36 
  - Yeh, I saw that too, almost like a forecast? Nah, they wouldn't do that.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:00 AM   #58 
  - Spin from the DNC and the DLC. It is spin.  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:59 PM   #56 
  - Two Words: Zell Miller  tsipple   Dec-28-03 11:35 PM   #29 
  - You are so right about that!  madfloridian   Dec-28-03 11:39 PM   #33 
     - The DNCers, on the other hand, are insisting it's a crisis!  Brian_Expat   Dec-28-03 11:51 PM   #50 
  - This, MY democratic party?  Hep   Dec-29-03 12:02 AM   #60 
  - How do you explain post #63 Hep  Jim4Wes   Dec-29-03 12:37 AM   #80 
     - Hep was driven to distraction by the sheer numbers lately.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:46 AM   #87 
     - You don't understand yet. It is not Clark so much, it is the attacks.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:48 AM   #89 
     - How do I explain post #63 Hep?  Hep   Dec-29-03 12:55 AM   #96 
  - Silly Thread - latest DNC Polling is solidly in Dean's favor.  Melinda   Dec-29-03 12:38 AM   #81 
  - Amazing, huh,Melinda, how his own party says he is electable.  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 12:43 AM   #83 
  - So much for the thread starters thesis, eh?  Melinda   Dec-29-03 12:47 AM   #88 
  - This bit of information deserves its own thread!  janx   Dec-29-03 01:02 PM   #138 
     - I'll pm you the information :-)  Melinda   Dec-29-03 01:06 PM   #139 
  - Dean has WON SIX STRIGHT ELECTIONS, 7th will be NOV 04  shivaji   Dec-29-03 12:46 AM   #86 
  - kicking to the top  drfemoe   Dec-29-03 01:28 AM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-29-03 02:13 AM   #105 
  - LMAO, do you even bother to read the articles?  Melinda   Dec-29-03 02:15 AM   #106 
  - Oh, I've read plenty of articles  sandnsea   Dec-29-03 05:52 AM   #112 
     - "you can't beat George Bush if you behave like the Democrats are behaving"  madfloridian   Dec-29-03 11:04 AM   #133 
  - hey sand  TexasPatriot   Dec-29-03 02:54 AM   #109 
  - Gore for Dean, Whose idea was this?  Undecided Okie   Dec-29-03 02:49 AM   #108 
  - No candidate is entitled to coronation - not even HD  robbedvoter   Dec-29-03 07:34 AM   #120 
  - Dean unfairly attacks the other candidates,  Skwmom   Dec-29-03 02:59 AM   #110 
  - Vigorously self-defeating in this case.  stickdog   Dec-29-03 03:13 AM   #111 
  - garbage  CWebster   Dec-29-03 06:18 AM   #117 
  - our own best chance?  NewYorkerfromMass   Dec-29-03 10:17 AM   #131 
  - "just as tough" my eye  JNelson6563   Dec-29-03 09:05 AM   #126 
  - I'm a Dean fan all the way - BUT he is guilty this time of doing exactly  auntpattywatty   Dec-29-03 09:08 AM   #127 
  - No, Dr. Dean is exactly right and the DNC leadership is responsible  Melinda   Dec-29-03 12:38 PM   #134 
  - maybe Dean did indeed try and exhaust all the private channels  NewYorkerfromMass   Dec-29-03 12:43 PM   #135 
  - Again, look at the latest DNC poll - the membership clearly supports Dean  Melinda   Dec-29-03 12:47 PM   #136 
  - This is Dean's strategy in a nutshell  eileen_d   Dec-29-03 02:06 PM   #146 
  - After all the fighting about the DLC ,here  Capn Sunshine   Dec-29-03 01:08 PM   #140 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-29-03 01:21 PM   #141 
  - The last candidate to listen to the DNC geniuses was Max Cleland...  farmbo   Dec-29-03 01:58 PM   #144 
  - No!  Upfront   Dec-29-03 02:32 PM   #148 
  - I'll try this again.  in_cog_ni_to   Dec-29-03 03:07 PM   #149 
 

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