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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:45 PM
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55. Arrogant much? He was murdered. oh, I know it only "counts" as involutary manslaughter
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 03:48 PM by tom_paine
and that those guards didn't mean to kill him, just beat and suffocate him to within an inch of his life with ammonia capsules, but how are the parents responsible for him winding up in an out-of-control detention center in which he was killed using misuesd and illegal techniuqes (at least that what the DJJ said, as per the article and forced inhalation of ammonia caps).

Blame rape victims much?

After all, she shouldn't have been walking in that neighborhood wearing those provocative clothes. She brought it on herself, right?

:sarcasm:

I am simply stunned that you would say such a thing, but no longer suprised at any of the shit human beings say or do, here on DU or anywhere else.

You have the right to blame a murder (manslaughter) victim and their parents for being in the place hwere they were murdered, but I quite frankly have the right to reply that I can think of little more odious and reprehensible to say about a murder victim, particularly when there is so much video evidence.

Wow, I don't often say this, but suddenly I feel the need to retch. :puke:
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  -14 year old eye witness to boot camp beating talked to the Miami Herald last year. madfloridian  Oct-15-07 10:42 PM   #0 
  - That whole "boot camp" format sounds like a MAGNET for sadists  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-15-07 11:00 PM   #1 
  - The whole fucking criminal-injustice system is a magnet for sadists!!!!  ProudDad   Oct-16-07 02:02 PM   #22 
  - The arrogant testimony of a guard. The nurse's testimony.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 12:46 AM   #2 
  - I just don't understand  sandnsea   Oct-16-07 06:24 PM   #60 
  - How stupid do they think we are?  Heywoodj   Oct-16-07 09:39 PM   #64 
  - I'm afraid the only way this family will get any justice is if they copy the Boondock Saints  sasquatch   Oct-16-07 04:01 AM   #3 
  - Perhaps if they had been better parents their kid would not have wound up in  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 01:10 PM   #10 
     - Are you saying he deserved this treatment because he did  NOLALady   Oct-16-07 01:30 PM   #11 
     - No, I am not saying that.  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 01:38 PM   #12 
     - That is an outrageously arrogant statement.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 01:43 PM   #14 
        - So, it is ok for you to judge the guards and the nurse, but not ok for me to judge the parents?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 01:54 PM   #17 
           - They are on video beating the kid for over 30 minutes.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 01:59 PM   #19 
              - And where the hell were his parents?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:02 PM   #21 
                 - Then who else of age 14 deserves to die?  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:03 PM   #25 
                 - I never said that he deserved to die  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:04 PM   #28 
                 - Arrogant much? He was murdered. oh, I know it only "counts" as involutary manslaughter  tom_paine   Oct-16-07 03:45 PM   #55 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-07 02:05 PM   #29 
                    - The "Prick" did not say that  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:08 PM   #32 
                       - You blamed the parents. The kid is dead. You are wrong. Apologize.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:09 PM   #33 
                          - If the parents had kept him out of trouble he would not be dead  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:11 PM   #36 
                             - I don't think you understand how cruel that sounds. How totally heartless.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:14 PM   #38 
                             - I completely understand  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:23 PM   #44 
                                - This kid was a human being and did not deserve to die this way.  cat_girl25   Oct-16-07 02:30 PM   #49 
                                   - I agree that he did not deserve to die  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:36 PM   #52 
                                      - Sick, sick, sick.  tom_paine   Oct-16-07 03:46 PM   #56 
                             - Sometimes even when parents do things right kids get into trouble,  tblue37   Oct-17-07 06:15 PM   #73 
                 - What a great Reich-wing farting point.  conscious evolution   Oct-16-07 04:52 PM   #57 
     - Yes, that is exactly what he said.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 01:49 PM   #16 
        - I did not excuse the guards and nurse  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 01:55 PM   #18 
     - Totally arrogant and judging statement.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 01:44 PM   #15 
     - If the guards and nurse can be judged, why not the parent?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:03 PM   #24 
        - How dare you? Did you see the video?  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:03 PM   #26 
           - Yes I saw the video  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:06 PM   #30 
              - Did you see the full video?  cat_girl25   Oct-16-07 02:28 PM   #47 
                 - Yes, I did  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 06:59 PM   #62 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-16-07 02:04 PM   #27 
     - I am not blaming the victim, Martin Lee Anderson  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:10 PM   #35 
     - WTF?  cat_girl25   Oct-16-07 02:07 PM   #31 
  - And this is where the tough kids learn to behave. Not likely.  autorank   Oct-16-07 04:48 AM   #4 
  - "Well there are people in the darkness  madrchsod   Oct-16-07 09:14 AM   #5 
  - Beautiful words......Martin called himself a "shining star in the world"  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 12:01 PM   #6 
  - is there still hope that jusice will be served?  grannie4peace   Oct-16-07 12:20 PM   #7 
  - It made me feel the way I felt when I heard the acquittal  NOLALady   Oct-16-07 01:40 PM   #13 
  - and yet...  jackster   Oct-16-07 12:37 PM   #8 
  - Thankfully, there may be federal charges  TexasBushwhacker   Oct-16-07 01:00 PM   #9 
  - I am retired from the Florida Department of Corrections.  William769   Oct-16-07 02:00 PM   #20 
  - What makes you think it was a good program????  ProudDad   Oct-16-07 02:10 PM   #34 
  - For first time, non violent offenders.  William769   Oct-16-07 02:21 PM   #43 
  - Read the GAO report about these "good" programs.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:17 PM   #41 
     - Where did i say it was a good program?  William769   Oct-16-07 02:24 PM   #46 
  - To the person who is judging the parents in the post above.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:02 PM   #23 
  - I never said that Martin Lee Anderson deserved to be beaten  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:12 PM   #37 
  - You are choking on your words now. You need to back off.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:15 PM   #39 
     - Which words? When and where did I say Anderson deserved to die?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:21 PM   #42 
        - As far as I am concerned, you will be talking to yourself.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 02:24 PM   #45 
        - I suppose if you cannot win an argument you can just put your fingers in your ears  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:30 PM   #48 
        - I'm curious to know if you've had teenaged sons  kas125   Oct-16-07 02:35 PM   #51 
           - He didn't even live with his parents. Either of them  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 02:44 PM   #53 
              - Freddie Stubbs  Diclotican   Oct-16-07 05:58 PM   #59 
                 - What I am saying is that if these parents had been more involved in their child's life, it would  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-16-07 06:58 PM   #61 
                 - Freddie Stubbs  Diclotican   Oct-16-07 07:15 PM   #63 
                    - Don't apologize.  cat_girl25   Oct-16-07 11:05 PM   #65 
                    - cat_girl25  Diclotican   Oct-16-07 11:28 PM   #66 
                    - We know that the child did not live with his parents  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-07 06:13 AM   #69 
                       - Freddie Stubbs  Diclotican   Oct-17-07 06:22 AM   #70 
                          - I never said that the child not living with his parents was a reason for him to be mistreated  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-17-07 06:55 AM   #71 
                             - Freddie Stubbs  Diclotican   Oct-17-07 02:39 PM   #72 
                 - Diclotican, I have been reading some of your other posts here.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 11:34 PM   #67 
                    - madfloridian  Diclotican   Oct-17-07 01:58 AM   #68 
  - I give up...  ProudDad   Oct-16-07 02:16 PM   #40 
     - I understand how you feel.  cat_girl25   Oct-16-07 02:32 PM   #50 
     - Don't give up.  madfloridian   Oct-16-07 04:57 PM   #58 
  - What proponents of bootcamp for kids don't get.  ieoeja   Oct-16-07 02:44 PM   #54 
 

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